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#176
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That's one reason I thought Viv would've been cool to have as a LI, since she has some controversial views and a very imposing personality. I'm not all up in arms that she wasn't available as a LI, but it would've been a cool dynamic... especially if you were able to get together while having conflicting viewpoints on Chantry Circles...


Yeah, Viv would have definitely made an interesting romance. She is my mage of choice for my canon playthrough. That would have made a heated debate for that couple. I was around for the romance reveals before launch, and I was disappointed that she wasn't a romance choice but I understood after her personal quest.

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 Black people don't have perfectly straight hair. If they do, they put A LOT of styling chemicals in it to get it that way. It's naturally tight and curly (afro). If their hair is straighter than an afro naturally, they are mixed with something. 

 

 

 

 

You are wrong dude. You can have straight hair WITHOUT adding the harsh chemicals . 



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I always said it would have been hilarious had Bull ever had the opportunity to tell my canon Inquisitor how it would be in their relationship. Ain't no one dominating that particular woman for any reason, ever, and he'd have been at least one horn less for suggesting so.

 

Don't ask where the horn would have ended up.

 

Because while some people might be fine with their love interest straight up telling them that they will be the submissive party in a relationship, it's just not gonna work for everyone. :P

 

I often feel that people misinterpret Bull's relationship this way a lot.

 

Cole sums it up best:

 

Spoiler

 

And Bull makes it crystal clear what you're in for before anything happens.  There were multiple opportunities to back out.


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I often feel that people misinterpret Bull's relationship this way a lot.

 

Cole sums it up best:

 

Spoiler

 

And Bull makes it crystal clear what you're in for before anything happens.  There were multiple opportunities to back out.

 

Oh, I know. I still like Bull. But that would never fly with my canon Inquisitor. She's also not the type to flirt with anyone she isn't genuinely interested in, so it never got to the point where Bull had to lay things out for her. It still would have been funny to me to see that interaction regardless, had I been able to do it with how she would have expressed her opinion on the matter. :P


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I'll say the same thing I said in numerous other threads of this nature:  Everyone was given eight options for potential LIs.  If you choose to play a character that cannot romance a 'gated' LI, that is your choice - the number of options remains unchanged at eight.

 

As a straight woman, I spent zero time moaning about Dorian being gay, I just rolled a gay male quizzy.  First time my canon character has been a male, as I like to see myself in my character, but there you have it.  Matteo Trevalyan and Dorian Pavus = OTP   :wub:  :wub:  :wub:


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You are wrong dude. You can have straight hair WITHOUT adding the harsh chemicals . 

The demographic I am speaking about does not naturally have straight hair. But I'll agree to disagree at this point... 



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Oh, I know. I still like Bull. But that would never fly with my canon Inquisitor. She's also not the type to flirt with anyone she isn't genuinely interested in, so it never got to the point where Bull had to lay things out for her. It still would have been funny to me to see that interaction regardless, had I been able to do it with how she would have expressed her opinion on the matter. :P

 

Different strokes, I know. Tho my Lavellan wouldn't have braved even a fling with Bull if he hadn't had some serious interest to begin with.  :lol:  But it really is a good thing the "relationship" doesn't become an actual thing until the Inquisitor has had a chance to get familiar with what it's like with Bull.

 

Another thing about Bull, outside of all the sex matters, is that I just find him very sweet and I love that intelligence.  Way back in pre-launch land, I wasn't expecting to like him much, because he seemed to have too much of the dudebro jock thing going on.  So how he actually turned out was a nice surprise.



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I agree with the OP. This time the LIs were not particularly appealing to me and I ended up romancing Josephine with my Qunari Inquisitor. I was disappointed with Josephine's romance and I recently created another Inquisitor (human male) and chose Cassandra this time. So far to me this romance isn't that engaging and I have no zeal to continue it. I also hope in the next game the options for a straight males are more intriguing to me.

 

Obviously some persons were ok with them and obviously that is ok, I speak for myself and my preferences. I don't understand why it's so difficult for some people to accept that yes others can have different preferences and yes they can be disappointed that a certain aspect of the game was not enjoyable to them. I still love the game it's just in this one to me the LI's weren't that engaging.

 

I also tried using a female inquisitor and it just didn't click for me, the same thing happened when I tried to play as a female Shepard actually. I wasn't as engrossed as I was with a male character. I guess it's because I project some aspects of myself to my characters and well I don't view myself as a woman so it's hard for me to connect in that way. 

 

What I find amazing is just how far the current view in society, should a straight male voice dislike about something he's entitled/ whining/ oblivious to his privilege has spread, it's nauseating at this point. I never and will never understand the mindset that "You had this before and other people didn't. Because it "changed" for you now suck it up." How does that line of thinking improve anything? I'm more interested in trying to get everyone to the same level. I do not believe I have or should make someone hurt like I did to understand me, or that it's some twisted form of justice. I have this crazy notion where I want everyone to feel comfortable and welcome.

 

I remember about a year ago when the LIs were confirmed I posted my disappointment regarding the options available for straight males. (Vivienne for me was the LI I was looking forward to) A Bioware employee Allan I believe replied in the thread to this effect. (Paraphrasing here) "Generally [In gaming] straight males always had more options, so if he were to choose a group to give less options to it would be straight males, because of past trends" Now mind you he did not say this was the thought process of Bioware (I hope not) but it is telling. I have issues with this line of thinking, but one of the first things that came to mind were why does what other developers do matter? Shouldn't you just focus on giving everyone the same content (as much as possible) and stop trying to or thinking about trying to punish a particular group?

 

What is sad is that with the ongoing societal norm that straight males are the most entitled bunch in history and such should not voice their opinions (seen as complaining) about anything we can see this line of thinking pop up more frequently. And who knows ultimately this could affect the development process! If they decide to cut an extra LI they might opt for the straight male since hey, they had more in the past! (Not considering that most of the sales probably come from straight males and logic would suggest you cater to your main audience but that's another point).

 

In DA:I straight females had the most options available I think it was around 6. I remember there was an explanation that with the delay they had extra time to add another romance so they added Solas for females. I still think that Vivienne should have been an option as it would have been a fantastic opportunity to have a totally different type of relationship and would have been a remarkable arc. It could have opened up after her Wyvern heart quest and show more of the side of Vivienne revealed through conversations with Cole and Iron Bull. Missed opportunity imo.


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#184
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tbh m8 there be to much effort put into your post in regards to "romance" in a video game, a mean cmon seriously, does it need that much, its a game



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As a straight man i dont give a **** about romance in games.


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tbh m8

 

:huh:  What does the Avenger have to do with anything??



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Eh, it didn't bother me all that much.  I like Cassandra though, as far as video game waifus go.

 

It is pretty easy not to get into a romance with anybody you don't like though.  It isn't like ME1 where you have to get a restraining order against Liara. :)



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As a straight woman when I play a  male, I play him as a straight male.

 

I actually like Cassandra and enjoyed the romance with her. I hate Josie - find her unattractive both in looks and personality, so she was a no go for me.....

 

IN other games as a male I have romanced Morrigan and Leliana, Merrill (ugh) and Isabella. In ME, I did Liara and Miranda. All in all some good malke choices, but I agree - pretty slim in DA:I


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I still think Vivienne should have been the 2nd LI for Male Players let me say that Vivienne was a lost opprotunity I mean from the beginning she was called The Ambition and her Character kept to that until it came to the Bastien Situation.I mean she was his Mistress not his wife and after he died even if she did love him she should have moved on and being the Inquisitor's mistress is a Major Upgrade in my opinion.Seriously tell me who's more powerful than The Inquisitor and as his Mistress she would have been almost as powerful.

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it's not that i dislike  cansandra or josephine , but i   just i wanted a simple  women . you know   just  like the ramance with bull  , he is simple  and make you feel simple . didn"t want a front line super seeker casandra or the noble dipolmat josephine .   i liked scout harding  she is just cute and simple.  i would leave the inquisition and run away with her anytime  haha


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I still think Vivienne should have been the 2nd LI for Male Players let me say that Vivienne was a lost opprotunity I mean from the beginning she was called The Ambition and her Character kept to that until it came to the Bastien Situation.I mean she was his Mistress not his wife and after he died even if she did love him she should have moved on and being the Inquisitor's mistress is a Major Upgrade in my opinion.Seriously tell me who's more powerful than The Inquisitor and as his Mistress she would have been almost as powerful.


Her rejection seems to indicate that she doesn't think the Inquisition's position would not benefit her much, which is kind of funny.

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Dude, I just said that there's a large variation of ethic groups in Africa and that I was NOT talking about citizens of Africa as a whole! 

 

I guess the correct term of the people that are labeled "black" would be African diaspora.

You do under stand how many people and ethic groups "Black" covers,right? Because it cover indian people as well.



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I still think Vivienne should have been the 2nd LI for Male Players let me say that Vivienne was a lost opprotunity I mean from the beginning she was called The Ambition and her Character kept to that until it came to the Bastien Situation.I mean she was his Mistress not his wife and after he died even if she did love him she should have moved on and being the Inquisitor's mistress is a Major Upgrade in my opinion.

 

I've seen it suggested (and possibly verified? Don't quote me on that) that Vivienne is a lot older than she makes herself appear to be. Bastien might have just had himself a cute young thing in Vivienne, but it's just as likely she was closer to his age than first looks might imply. I'm going to guess at least some people would have been all thanks, but no thanks for her romance if she walked out without her face on one morning. :P



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Her rejection seems to indicate that she doesn't think the Inquisition's position would not benefit her much, which is kind of funny.

 

I thought the same thing when I tried to romance her...it's like do you realise the power the inquisition holds now? To be so close to the Inquistor would probably result in far greater connections than you could in Orlais alone. By the end of the game we have reach EVERYWHERE  <_<

 

Would be interesting if in the new DLC her view point changes!  :P



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As a straight woman when I play a  male, I play him as a straight male.

 

I actually like Cassandra and enjoyed the romance with her. I hate Josie - find her unattractive both in looks and personality, so she was a no go for me.....

 

IN other games as a male I have romanced Morrigan and Leliana, Merrill (ugh) and Isabella. In ME, I did Liara and Miranda. All in all some good malke choices, but I agree - pretty slim in DA:I

 

Morrigan's best , there should be Morrigan romance every game.


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We're still complaining about the "lack" of straight options for males? That being said I enjoyed the Cassandra romance, it enhanced her character in unexpected ways.



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Most of the time? So you occasionally role-play as a homosexual? I dont see the purpose or the logic unless you have secret concealed feelings.



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Well I played as a straight female and had a similar experience: I'm not particularly fond (romantically) of any of the men I can go after: Solas, Blackwall, Iron Bull or Cullen, in the end I did romance some of them but I wasn't crazy about them, not like past DA romances. I LOVE Dorian but he likes wieners (in the OP's words) and I was already playing with a girl. It didn't really affect my opinion on the game, the romance options, we all know that in the end not everyone can be satisfied with everything so just enjoy the ride, if you must stay away from romance then so be it, you mentioned it: it's completely optional.



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Screw romance. You know what they should've done? Bring Duncan back to life so that he can solo everybody and slap the taint out of Cory.


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XXI 'st century video game and people still want fairy tale romance ( though tinted with soft porn ). *amused*

 

i suppose i also wish for more, and tailored to my personal fantasy .. i should move to lalaland.