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[Spin-Orbit]

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I PUG constantly on PS4, i find players who join me when i start a level 1 run in perilous, i level up to 9 then will do another run, some PUGs recognize they can get a nice ride and stay but others leave. Some play very intelligently and do the right things (not going leroy jenkins when they can't take two hits on perilous, not bringing level 1 assassin when they just died 3 times with level 18 katari and etc.) and i befriend them, have taken them through NM runs and ask them to change into sturdier characters etc. Then there those people who exemplifies the PUG life but that is another thread....

[Spin-Orbit]

Yeah, don't get me wrong, you guys are all extremely welcoming. It's that, as you say, most players just aren't invested enough to try and reach out. It's unfortunate.

Most players don't even pay attention why they are dying as level 18s and someone running a level 1 is reviving everyone and killing everything. They don't ask and just leave next run

[ruggie]

I help the ones that Can be helped and tea bag the hopeless into the fade. Anyway I heard there was empty promises about damp getting more dlc than me3. Dk if true but it's not like bw said things and didn't do it before.

[Pork]

I help the ones that Can be helped and tea bag the hopeless into the fade. Anyway I heard there was empty promises about damp getting more dlc than me3. Dk if true but it's not like bw said things and didn't do it before.

 

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[GreySpectre]

Using a headset increase your chances 100...00000% to be added to our friend list. A laptop microphone bleeds out ambient noise crazy, don't use it unless you're nice enough to use push to talk.
 

 

The thing with voice communication is, the push to talk feature is completely broken and half the time I will hear my voice ingame without pushing ctrl. Therefore, for the sake of my teammates' sanity, I keep my mic closed.

[MagicalMaster]

Based on my observation of newer players, I'd have to say you're something of a special snowflake and that you're observations and experience are not shared by the majority.

I'd certainly agree in general (hence my comment about being a Mythic raider), but what are you referring to specifically here? I mean, outside of being able to do Peri and NM with less promotions than most pretty much everything else is just time based. Keep in mind that *all* of my gold spent/items collected were under the "new and improved" loot system which tremendously helped compared to people playing at launch.

I mean, at this point I've collected 628k gold and seen *four* Superb HoK rings -- is that very lucky? Probably. Is getting *one* HoK ring very lucky? Not really. Hell, I never even got the 5% HoK ring -- went straight from 2% to 10%. Didn't have the 10% attack ring until after two 10% HoK rings. Worked my way up through necks of 2 to each stat to 5 of each stat and now have 10 of each stat (except Cunning).

And as Proto said, things are apparently very different with the armor upgrade and Dragon Weapons with HoK. I've had full Dragon Weapons (or better) for several weeks now.

The most unusual thing there is acquiring the items you have in that short amount of playtime. I mean I know RNG is RNG, but...you may want to play the lottery the next chance you get.

How much gold have you collected/spent under the new system?

That said, if you're regularly running with players with over 200 promotions, that's an advantage the wide majority of players will never enjoy. Since they don't use these forums, they wouldn't even know how to find players like that.

If by "regularly" you mean "on some of your NM runs" then I guess, if people don't use the forum and add people from the PC Nightmare thread. I don't think trying to just randomly PUG NM really makes much sense for a new player, though.

It's not rocket science, but the majority of players don't even bother... Those that do bother generally get a place on my friend list right away.

That gives me an idea!

Yeah, don't get me wrong, you guys are all extremely welcoming. It's that, as you say, most players just aren't invested enough to try and reach out. It's unfortunate.

What percent of players do you think are even halfway interested in doing Nightmare, though? Most are content in Threatening or below, maybe trying Perilous but struggling.

[ParthianShotX]

What percent of players do you think are even halfway interested in doing Nightmare, though? Most are content in Threatening or below, maybe trying Perilous but struggling.

 

I don't agree with you here.  I almost exclusively PUG and I can't tell you how often after a successful perilous run people want to ratchet it up to Nightmare.  It happens often.  Now, even though I might be able to identify the significant weak links, I'll still say "sure."  Now, I'm a good adequate player (NOT a special snowflake in this respect at all) but there's no way I can carry a team through Nightmare.  Most of these expeditions wipe.  I played Nightmare the first morning it was released and was duoing with someone who was really good.  We made it to Zone 4.   I offer this only as a demonstration that, as you say, the team dynamic is extremely important for success on Nightmare.  My 2c for what it's worth.

 

EDIT because I did not address  your direct question (and also spotted a typo in my quoted post which is now driving me crazy).  You say:

MagicalMaster, on 02 Sept 2015 - 6:16 PM, said:

I'd certainly agree in general (hence my comment about being a Mythic raider), but what are you referring to specifically here?

 

 

There's a measuring tone in your posts that I believe is not intentional.  I was trying to point out that, perhaps without your (i) luck with items (ii) good fortune at starting after the armor buff and (iii) your MadSkillz, others may not share your viewpoint.    You are challenging other viewpoints based upon your rather specialized circumstance.  A circumstance you concede is far from universal.

[lJustAlexl]

I mean, at this point I've collected 628k gold and seen *four* Superb HoK rings -- is that very lucky? Probably. Is getting *one* HoK ring very lucky? Not really. Hell, I never even got the 5% HoK ring -- went straight from 2% to 10%. Didn't have the 10% attack ring until after two 10% HoK rings. Worked my way up through necks of 2 to each stat to 5 of each stat and now have 10 of each stat (except Cunning).

 

628k gold in a month and change and four superb HoK rings and every other superb stat ring? Your experience is extremely far removed from the average player.

 

What percent of players do you think are even halfway interested in doing Nightmare, though? Most are content in Threatening or below, maybe trying Perilous but struggling.

Based on the revolving door of players who try to jump into Nightmare and get one or two shot before abandoning, I'd say a good percentage...

[GreySpectre]

628k gold in a month and change and four superb HoK rings and every other superb stat ring? Your experience is extremely far removed from the average player.

 

Based on the revolving door of players who try to jump into Nightmare and get one or two shot before abandoning, I'd say a good percentage...

 

Lies. They ALWAYS stay.

[CitizenThom]

The question is... is Andromeda's MP going to be any good? Is Bioware/ EA going to be committed to it at all?

 

Or is ME3MP one of those moments in video game history never to be found again?

[ruggie]

I think from the last few games bw made its gonna be trash. Oh well.

[ALTBOULI]

I think from the last few games bw made its gonna be trash. Oh well.

Interesting, which of the last few games do you think is trash bar this one?

[Beerfish]

The question is... is Andromeda's MP going to be any good? Is Bioware/ EA going to be committed to it at all?

 

Or is ME3MP one of those moments in video game history never to be found again?

If they use the frost bite engine which they seem to be attached to then it will be garbage.

[ruggie]

Da2 was straight junk n I heard not so good things about me3 sp. But I mean da2 was like an add on lol.

[Silversmurf]

If they use the frost bite engine which they seem to be attached to then it will be garbage.

 

Surely they will have learned a lot more about frostbite by then to make it work effectively..... we can hope 

[ruggie]

If they're not smart enough to make dai next gen only. then do it a month before they stop dlc. you think they gonna figure out their engine? No.

[ALTBOULI]

Da2 was straight junk n I heard not so good things about me3 sp. But I mean da2 was like an add on lol.

Da2 was just an ok game (better than DAI) I wouldnt call it trash though. How can you judge ME3 SP if you havent played it. The SP in ME3 was actually very good, it was just the ending that kind of let it down. As a complete package ME3 is an excellent game, certainly one of the best games I have played

[Beerfish]

Da2 was straight junk n I heard not so good things about me3 sp. But I mean da2 was like an add on lol.

DA2 was okay, took far more flack than it deserved.  Me3 had some very good parts and some really bad parts.

[Beerfish]

Surely they will have learned a lot more about frostbite by then to make it work effectively..... we can hope 

[ruggie]

Da2 was crap it was easy to repetitive and there was literally 5 places with no exploration. Cmon its not with the 5 dollars at gamestop.

[ruggie]

No game should have statues in a boss fight for instance. ...

[Geth Supremacy]

how about when the new Mass Effect gets treated like DAMP was. Lol.

 

Gonna be more entertaining to read the forums than play the game.  BSN will show the Krogans what rage mode really is.

[ruggie]

It's going to be trash if they can't prepare a release while keeping up support for another relatively new game what hope does the new games have?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I think it is possible to acknowledge there is some "apples and oranges" comparison happening, while still recognizing that ME 3 MP was an objectively better MP mode than DAMP is.

 

I'm not upset about DAMP, even though I had a few overblown hopes for epic dungeon coop exploration. I don't know how many hours I ultimately played of DAMP, but it was more than enough to feel I had my money's worth from the purchase (I didn't buy it for the MP co-op, and I might feel differently if I had.)

 

ME 3 MP was ultimately much better than I think the vast majority of people expected it to be, and it had the combination of factors necessary to encourage a large and varied player base that, despite shrinking a lot over the last three years, continues to be sizable enough to maintain a thriving community.

 

ME 3 MP also has a much longer learning curve, and demands a higher level of reaction and skill at higher levels, making for a longer play life. I'm not saying this to be judgy - just being honest. I played bronze for months before I could reasonably hack Silver, and I needed help from BSN to learn to play Gold. While I can now play effectively enough to rationalize PuGing Platinum, I don't consider it worth the headaches because of the high difficulty.

 

In DAMP, I was able to make the leap to Threatening literally one week after I started playing, and it required no additional skill. All it required was unlocking a Superb Ring of Life Drain after about a dozen games. From there, Perilous was simply not possible for me until I had unlocked advanced armour and high level rare/uniques. It only took me a month or so to unlock at least one level 20 rare weapon in almost every category, and from there, I was able to play perilous, primarily on the strength of my high level mage staff and Trepanner's on a pre-nerf Archer.

 

DAMP is a fun way to pass the time, and I can certainly see why the community that still plays it ended up liking it more than I did. There are ingredients to build on for the future, and if one really likes DA:I, it will extend the replayability of the game, which is a good thing. But regardless of how much support either receives, or how many characters or powers or weapons get added, ME 3 MP's fundamental design and gameplay is on a different level from DAMP.

[CitizenThom]

I actually start to wonder if Andromeda is even going to be released by Bioware... if they have to lock threads rather than spend the minimal resources responding... the choice to end support and the like may not be ill will, but the last attempt of a sinking ship to keep itself afloat.