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[jones81381]

I think it's safe to assume from the dev post about Andromeda taking place many many years after Shepard's story and the teaser video, humanity has expanded to the Andromeda galaxy the 'old fashioned way' and flown there themselves. As such, will all the humans have that synthesis effect if I chose it as my ending of ME3? Will any returning races have that effect? Hell, for that matter will Andromeda be importing anything at all from the previous games? The synthesis ending seems really big to just ignore.

[Killdren88]

Well yeah? Imagine the three-way civil war if they made an ending canon.

 

(Also Synthesis, literally the worst ending.))

[AlanC9]

Most of us are assuming that your assumption is wrong; the colonists will leave before the end of ME3 through some unknown method.

[AlanC9]

Well yeah? Imagine the three-way civil war if they made an ending canon.
 
(Also Synthesis, literally the worst ending.))

Wouldn't the Destroy forces have won that war pretty easily?

[Former_Fiend]

Right now the leading theory is that the expedition to Andromeda leaves before the ending to ME3, possibly as a contingency plan in case we lose the Reaper War, and it just takes us a long, long time to get there, because space is big.

 

Under this theory, doesn't matter what Shepard chose because by the time the choice is made, the ARK project is already out of the Milky Way and thus out of the area of effect of the ending beams. 

 

Of course, we won't know for sure for a while, possibly until the game comes out.

[Killdren88]

Wouldn't the Destroy forces have won that war pretty easily?

 

I would think so...but then you have sub groups of pretentious idiots who think they are more intelligent than you because they picked the other two...then again, that was mostly the Synthesis crowd.

[Hrulj]

I think it's safe to assume from the dev post about Andromeda taking place many many years after Shepard's story and the teaser video, humanity has expanded to the Andromeda galaxy the 'old fashioned way' and flown there themselves. As such, will all the humans have that synthesis effect if I chose it as my ending of ME3? Will any returning races have that effect? Hell, for that matter will Andromeda be importing anything at all from the previous games? The synthesis ending seems really big to just ignore.

If that is the case, I dont really see what is the big deal. All you need is apply a filter or layer over already designed characters. Its not like they would have to create different character models or completely different dialogue.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If that is the case, I dont really see what is the big deal. All you need is apply a filter or layer over already designed characters. Its not like they would have to create different character models or completely different dialogue.

Or even just have it so that over time the glow faded away. Then you don't even need the extra layer. 

[Killroy]

I think it's safe to assume from the dev post about Andromeda taking place many many years after Shepard's story and the teaser video, humanity has expanded to the Andromeda galaxy the 'old fashioned way' and flown there themselves.

That's not a safe assumption. The whole point of changing the setting is to avoid those horrendous endings.

[dreamgazer]

I would think so...but then you have sub groups of pretentious idiots who think they are more intelligent than you because they picked the other two...then again, that was mostly the Synthesis crowd.

[jones81381]

I thought the synthesis ending was the best because I had just brokered peace between the Quarians and Geth and I didn't want all that to be for nothing so I didn't want to destroy option, and the dominate option was not appealing at all but the synthesis ending melded organic and synthetic beings which brought peace and no one had to die for it, plus with the synthesis ending Joker would be able to bang EDI. You're welcome, Joker. 

[Hrulj]

Or even just have it so that over time the glow faded away. Then you don't even need the extra layer. 

They could go down that route, maybe just make the eyes green, and add a few different lines of dialogues and there it is. Acting like endings are exclusive and impossible to incorporate is something beyond me

[sjsharp2011]

I thought the synthesis ending was the best because I had just brokered peace between the Quarians and Geth and I didn't want all that to be for nothing so I didn't want to destroy option, and the dominate option was not appealing at all but the synthesis ending melded organic and synthetic beings which brought peace and no one had to die for it, plus with the synthesis ending Joker would be able to bang EDI. You're welcome, Joker. 

 

 

Yeah I kind of look qat that being the best one as well especially as a lot of my Shepard's feel that they don't want EDI to die and the fact the Geth can and hopefully will be friends with the Quarians and make things alright again for both groups. I've always felt that this is what Legion would have wanted as well. I have chosen and do choose all the endings depending on the kind of Shepard I'm roleplaying but most of them tend to go down the synthesis route. As for how it'l affect Andromeda I subscribe to the same theory as @FormerFiend atm in that the Ark or whatever leaves befoer ME3's conclusion and is clear of the galaxy when Shepard makes his/her decision as to how to end the reaper war.

[jones81381]

I hadn't considered that the colonists could already be out of the galaxy by the ending of ME3. That is a good point.

[Soultaker08]

I like how the one claiming people who chose syn/con are actually aggressive with their opinion is insulting them in the same post.

Lets talk about irony.

[Helios969]

I thought the synthesis ending was the best because I had just brokered peace between the Quarians and Geth and I didn't want all that to be for nothing so I didn't want to destroy option, and the dominate option was not appealing at all but the synthesis ending melded organic and synthetic beings which brought peace and no one had to die for it, plus with the synthesis ending Joker would be able to bang EDI. You're welcome, Joker. 

It might have been "best" from the standpoint of everyone living (save for Shep) but it was beyond scientifically stupid (not that any facet of the crucible was particularly intelligent,) made even more ridiculous by giving everyone glowing eyes and overlaying microcircuitry.  And let's not even get into the ethics involved with rewriting a person's biology without their consent.

 

OP I think the "safe assumption" is we're in Andromeda to avoid anything regarding ME3's ending mess.

[Former_Fiend]

Another issue is that synthesis carries some pretty strong implications beyond glowing eyes and matrix code skin. The utopia presented by the ending slides would suggest enhanced intelligence, if nothing else, and potentially a whole host of other alterations to go with it. I think it's safe to say that any characters that were the result of the synthesis ending would be significantly different in outlook, personality, and capability than their equivalents in either destroy or control.

 

Oh, and they, you know have fully sentient reapers helping them out. So that would be a thing.

 

That's a very big reason why they'd want to avoid tackling the endings at all. In half the endings we either have unstoppable living star ships that defy the laws of physics as our neighbors and allies, or as our watchful guardians under the control of Big Brother Catashep. Assuming we leave after the endings, then in a control or synthesis world, there wouldn't be any real reason why we wouldn't just bring a few reapers with us as back up other than self imposed challenges.

 

And then you fall into a serious problem; if the Remnant, or the Khet, or the Necrons, or whoever the hell our enemy is in Andromeda is powerful enough to threaten us when we have reapers in our fleet, then you fall into all of the same pit falls you had in the original trilogy with the enemy being far too overwhelming and dues ex machina being required for our survival.

[LinksOcarina]

I would think so...but then you have sub groups of pretentious idiots who think they are more intelligent than you because they picked the other two...then again, that was mostly the Synthesis crowd.

 

Well to be fair, I am more intelligent than most of you, so the Synthesis choice was always justified by that. 

 

In all seriousness, each ending has a lot of different ideals going for it, none are right or wrong, and events during the game can be interpreted as positive or negative regarding how you handle them, of course.

 

I will say this, I think this is one of the few cases where BioWare needs to pick a canon ending. I do not believe we get to Andromeda before the Reaper War, but rather we explore the galaxy after it. In that sense, Destroy is probably the most likely candidate of course. Would I be pissed regarding the ignoring of Synthesis...yeah but to me it's not the end of the world.

 

If they don't, all the more to them of course but then it becomes a logistical nightmare...as folks have noted before, imagine reapers all over the place...

[Former_Fiend]

Well to be fair, I am more intelligent than most of you, so the Synthesis choice was always justified by that. 

 

In all seriousness, each ending has a lot of different ideals going for it, none are right or wrong, and events during the game can be interpreted as positive or negative regarding how you handle them, of course.

 

I will say this, I think this is one of the few cases where BioWare needs to pick a canon ending. I do not believe we get to Andromeda before the Reaper War, but rather we explore the galaxy after it. In that sense, Destroy is probably the most likely candidate of course. Would I be pissed regarding the ignoring of Synthesis...yeah but to me it's not the end of the world.

 

If they don't, all the more to them of course but then it becomes a logistical nightmare...as folks have noted before, imagine reapers all over the place...

 

My personal pick for a canon ending would actually be Refusal. We've lost. Crucible failed. The Milky Way is going down and we're the ones who aren't going down with it.

 

Adds a certain tension to the game when you know you can't just turn around and go back, or that if we fail, civilization isn't just trucking along back home.

[LinksOcarina]

My personal pick for a canon ending would actually be Refusal. We've lost. Crucible failed. The Milky Way is going down and we're the ones who aren't going down with it.

 

Adds a certain tension to the game when you know you can't just turn around and go back, or that if we fail, civilization isn't just trucking along back home.

 

That is...kinda brilliant actually.

 

Although I think it would then be a huge middle finger to everyone, or be perceived as such.

 

I kind of hope BioWare does that now...

[Former_Fiend]

I've mentioned this in another thread; I personally feel that paragon Destroy with high EMS is the best ending for the original trilogy. If you take that trilogy as a contained thing, if it had ended with three, then I think Destroy is the best way to wrap it up, for various thematic reasons.

 

But as we're going forward and jumping galaxies, I think Refusal would be the way to go for reasons already mentioned.

 

That being said, I also think that we'll be leaving before the endings actually occur as a preemptive contingency plan, but even in that case I still feel Refusal fits best if they had to pick a hard canon, because even then, if we fail in Andromeda, well, yea, that's (potentially) sad that these people that we'll (presumably) care about died, but it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things when life is rebuilding it's self just fine back home.

[Lvl20DM]

Despite the developers claiming that they will "respect our choices", I just don't see a way to reconcile Destroy and Control with Synthesis. The first two would work because we aren't in the Milky Way and thus the Reaper fleet won't be a factor. But Synthesis is just too different. 

 

I hope they just go with one canon ending that is barely referenced or, a fusion ending where Shep chose control and then self-destructed most of the fleet, and feedback from that caused some organics and synthetics near the Citadel to "ascend".

[CHRrOME]

The whole point of making the game in Andromeda was so the endings of the previous trilogy won't affect anything whatsoever in the new game. I'm pretty confident it will be kind of irrelevant what ending was chosen in ME3. You won't see green-glowing people in ME:A if you picked synthesis.

I know some of you really liked the synthesis ending (not sure why, though. But hey, to each his own). But think about how it could brake the entire franchise. I mean, half-people half-machine? for pretty much any existing thing on the galaxy? That's just going a tiny bit too far if you ask me.

 

Had they picked destruction (the thing that we were supposed to do since ME1) as canon, some people would have been pissed yes, but I'm sure the numbers would have been significantly lower if you compare it to something like the old awakened-collector-MP opposition back in the day. But they respect choices now, so that's not an option, apparently.

[Lady Artifice]

My issue with the synthesis ending is borne of my own genre related paranoia. It promises too much, too vaguely, and I've simply read and watched too much sci-fi horror to trust it.

Anyway, I hope the expedition left before the events of the ending. Less messy that way.

[AresKeith]

My issue with the synthesis ending is borne of my own genre related paranoia. It promises too much, too vaguely, and I've simply read and watched too much sci-fi horror to trust it.

Anyway, I hope the expedition left before the events of the ending. Less messy that way.

 

Very much this