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#26
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That's funny, calling a PREDICTION fanfiction. Ha ha ha! Calm down and breathe slowly. I'm not trying to tell you how things are in the series. I'm just throwing out an idea that we all know is just speculation at this point.

 

Baseless Speculation is essentially wishing Really, Really hard.....



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Grepher your speculation is sound tbh an could be a great story, but truth be told im really hoping it is The Qun making a move :D


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But the text would be known to the qunari and their ego plus their "certainty" won't make such an act sufficient to radicalize Par Vollen community.

 

Which is why the Qunari officials would declare this new faction Tal-Vashoth, and why this new faction would fight against those they see as Tal-Vashoth for not accepting the truth. If Solas gave them this information and this new magic, then they might very well use it to take down the Qunari officials (can't remember what they call themselves, the Trimunlitive? The Antom? Whatever), and establish the true Qun. Again, this new faction would be driven by their own respect for the Qun.

 

And this would make sense in terms of Solas' method of fighting. He would turn the Qun against itself by turning the Qunari's own radical extremism against itself.
 


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Grepher your speculation is sound tbh an could be a great story, but truth be told im really hoping it is The Qun making a move :D

 

I do too actually. I want this thing with the Qunari to be so on. I want my Hero and Arishok to meet on the field of battle, just like they talked about in Origins.

 

I'm just suggesting an idea for what I think BioWare is going to do in Trespasser, which is find a logical way for The Iron Bull to return as an ally AND as a believer in the Qun (thus not negating our choice in his personal quest).



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ahhh ok i wannae play your version :P


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Which is why the Qunari officials would declare this new faction Tal-Vashoth, and why this new faction would fight against those they see as Tal-Vashoth for not accepting the truth. If Solas gave them this information and this new magic, then they might very well use it to take down the Qunari officials (can't remember what they call themselves, the Trimunlitive? The Antom? Whatever), and establish the true Qun. Again, this new faction would be driven by their own respect for the Qun.

 

And this would make sense in terms of Solas' method of fighting. He would turn the Qun against itself by turning the Qunari's own radical extremism against itself.
 

 

But i fail to see what the qun have to do with the qunari origins , in the end qunaris are "people of the qun" be em humans , dwarves or elves.



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Rasaan has accompanied the Antaam before. Or she could be Ben-Hassrath, which is the ultimate supply of convenient exceptions for all the Qun's problematic rules.

My thinking is the latter thus my 'Hydra' joke.


As we've already seen demonstrated, what is and isn't forbidden by the Qun depends entirely on what the Qun needs right now.

True, but here's the thing... for a lot of this stuff it isn't just the use, but in the training. Now if they were using Saarabas the way they were in Kirkwall, as pretty much artillery I'd be okay. But the Eluvian are advanced magic, which means someone's been doing long term advanced training of mages, which, as I understand it, would go against everything in the Qun, no matter what.

And again I keep getting pulled back to that damned mask from Redemption. I'm almost certain that thing has a place in this.

Bloody bald annoying elf.

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But i fail to see what the qun have to do with the qunari origins , in the end qunaris are "people of the qun" be em humans , dwarves or elves.

 

The Tome of Koslun holds all the Qunari philosophies, historical facts, and spiritual tenets. So if this female Qunari changes it, she could conceivably change the Qun.
 



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The Tome of Koslun holds all the Qunari philosophies, historical facts, and spiritual tenets. So if this female Qunari changes it, she could conceivably change the Qun.
 

 

And i'll be back to my earlier point , it won't work , it's kind of impossible , the qunari won't go and submit to this "traitor" version of the qun that won't change much in the text , only their origins .

 

I mean i don't know how she'll phrase it in the text , but it will just scream "Hey you're Tevinter creation".

 
 


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 he will be killing his people :/  

 

He... really doesn't mind killing people. He gleefully throws an assassin off the wall (I hope he looked down below so he didn't hit any innocent passer-by). I think it isn't killing that bothers him, it's the whole "not making a difference" that bugs him... you know... what he ran into in Seheron. 



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sounds like a cop out. Every group you fight can't always be the "not real" version of the group. Not-Real Templars, not-real mages. 

 

You have the potential to fight and kill companions in the last act of DA2. They should make you bite the bullet on the Bull.

 

Absolutely this. So sick of killing defectors, traitors, or rogue agents. No, enough of that. I want to fight the bulk of the horde, the vanguard of the qunari, Sten himself if I have to. BW aways shy away from all out wars in their Dragon age games.



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The Tome of Koslun holds all the Qunari philosophies, historical facts, and spiritual tenets. So if this female Qunari changes it, she could conceivably change the Qun.

 

No way they are that dumb. Probably.

 

 

True, but here's the thing... for a lot of this stuff it isn't just the use, but in the training. Now if they were using Saarabas the way they were in Kirkwall, as pretty much artillery I'd be okay. But the Eluvian are advanced magic, which means someone's been doing long term advanced training of mages, which, as I understand it, would go against everything in the Qun, no matter what.

 

Advanced magical devices doesn't necessarily mandate the advanced training of mages. Working the Eluvians didn't require that in Masked Empire, and the Saarebas control rods seem like advanced magic themselves, but the usual rules still apply.



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And i'll be back to my earlier point , it won't work , it's kind of impossible , the qunari won't go and submit to this "traitor" version of the qun that won't change much in the text , only their origins .

 

I mean i don't know how she'll phrase it in the text , but it will just scream "Hey you're Tevinter creation".

 

Of course you're right. It all depends how she words it. But I think my idea stands up either way. Even if no one accepts her claim except those we fight in the game that will still be enough to make the game possible. That faction of few "true" Qunari will fight the Inquisition, and the Temassrans will call on the Ben-Hassrath (The Iron Bull) to eliminate those Tal-Vashoth and take back the Tome of Koslun (if that is indeed the Tome of Koslun).
 


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Absolutely this. So sick of killing defectors, traitors, or rogue agents. No, enough of that. I want to fight the bulk of the horde, the vanguard of the qunari, Sten himself if I have to. BW aways shy away from all out wars in their Dragon age games.

Killing the Arishok in DA2 was not shying away.



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I hope he turns on the Inquisitor if he's on low approval, then kills maybe an important character like Cullen or Scout Harding, before the Inquisitor proceeds on killing him for his treachery.

 

I would laugh so hard if he betrays you and then kills Scout Harding.



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Killing the Arishok in DA2 was not shying away.

 

Only for Inquisition to write him off saying "he acted without the consent of the other qunari, and we shaw never speak of this again".


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He might not. It all depends on whether or not I decide to take him with me. He's just as likely to sit the whole thing out at Skyhold.



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No way they are that dumb. Probably.

 

Probably. But they'll still want the Tome of Koslun back anyway (if it is the ToK). Or at least, they would want to kill those "Tal-Vashoth".

 

Another great twist...

 

The Qunari pretend that those Qunari are Tal-Vashoth, and will condemn them publicly as a rogue faction, but once they fail to kill the Inquisitor and start the war... in the shadows...

 

Spoiler



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Only for Inquisition to write him off saying "he acted without the consent of the other qunari, and we shaw never speak of this again".

Qunari PR.



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 he will be killing his people :/  

 

Yeah I'm failing to see the downside to this scenario. It's a good thing.



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Of course you're right. It all depends how she words it. But I think my idea stands up either way. Even if no one accepts her claim except those we fight in the game that will still be enough to make the game possible. That faction of few "true" Qunari will fight the Inquisition, and the Temassrans will call on the Ben-Hassrath (The Iron Bull) to eliminate those Tal-Vashoth and take back the Tome of Koslun (if that is indeed the Tome of Koslun).
 

 

I like the idea of a revolution among the qunari rather than among the Imperium , it would give Tevinter an advantage in the war.

 

Unless they both have revolution and call for a truce , and our long waited war won't happen , disturbing idea.



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This is why my first playthrough will be my female human rift mage who romanced Bull and kept him Qunari.  If I don't have to make hard decisions about Bull I'll be disappointed.



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Only for Inquisition to write him off saying "he acted without the consent of the other qunari, and we shaw never speak of this again".


Arishok's invasion failed. So of course they're going to say they didn't approve of it. I mean seriously? "Yes we fully supported the Arishok when he beheaded your viscount and tried to convert your city. Sorry!"

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No way they are that dumb. Probably.
 
 

 
Advanced magical devices doesn't necessarily mandate the advanced training of mages. Working the Eluvians didn't require that in Masked Empire, and the Saarebas control rods seem like advanced magic themselves, but the usual rules still apply.


I don't know about ME, but in game Morrigan says that having knowedge and power is required. The two together may be enough to gain the unlock code, but not always. And Saarabas get practically almost no training at all. Plus I've never seen any indication those rods aren't more than leashes. It's still to the mage to shape the magic.

And then there's the fact these things are rising up in places we never saw them before, like the Hinterlands.

That takes a lot of power.

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I don't know about ME, but in game Morrigan says that having knowedge and power is required. The two together may be enough to gain the unlock code, but not always. And Saarabas get practically almost no training at all.

 

It required the use of a magical object and a pass-phrase. And yes, Saarebas are not trained, they are pointed in the direction of the enemy.

 

 

Plus I've never seen any indication those rods aren't more than leashes. It's still to the mage to shape the magic.

 

Define "leash". What ever it does, it is both magical and technological, and they are noted to be similar to golem control rods.