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[KBomb]

I really don't understand the mentality of allowing people you don't even know to ruin an experience, whether it's gaming, music, movies, etc. Especially when you can completely ignore the avenues that exposes you to such influence. 

[Beomer]

I really don't understand the mentality of allowing people you don't even know to ruin an experience, whether it's gaming, music, movies, etc. Especially when you can completely ignore the avenues that exposes you to such influence. 

 

My reaction exactly.

But apparently it's a logical thing to do because if you play any game like TW3, or WoW, or CoD you get clubbed in with the most annoying group of players of the game's fanbase and that's bad for your image in front of.....someone.....I don't know that's all I could get.

[PillarBiter]

I'd kill for some Thedasian Gwent.

 

Oh my god. Maker Yes!!

[robertthebard]

I really don't understand the mentality of allowing people you don't even know to ruin an experience, whether it's gaming, music, movies, etc. Especially when you can completely ignore the avenues that exposes you to such influence.

 
 

My reaction exactly.
But apparently it's a logical thing to do because if you play any game like TW3, or WoW, or CoD you get clubbed in with the most annoying group of players of the game's fanbase and that's bad for your image in front of.....someone.....I don't know that's all I could get.

...and ya'll don't have to understand. It's not about what other people think, it's about what I think. I get that "I don't want to be associated with them" seems to indicate that I'm looking at what others think, but it's all about me, and it should be. In the specific example that I gave that started me down this road, WoW, I would not only be reading these people in forums, but also, presumably, in game. It is, after all, an MMO, and one would assume that people that run around trying to downplay every game ever made in favor of WoW actually play the game. It was so bad for a while that the tinfoil hat conspiracy nerds actually believed that Blizzard was payin' 'em to do it.

This sets a precedence, however. One that I choose to apply to any game I play, since, as we can see, here I am, in the Spoilers section, looking to discuss Inquisition. This means that I would be on those forums too, and would have to tolerate the fanboys shouting down anything negative I might post. As I said, I haven't been to the forums for TW 3. I didn't buy the game, and don't plan to in the immediate future, so I won't be over there, despite the fact that I actually have an account, since I own the first two installments. However, since the fanboys are so rabid here, I know enough of the story to know that it, like the first two, won't be able to hold me through a completed playthrough.

[Beomer]

 ...and ya'll don't have to understand. It's not about what other people think, it's about what I think. I get that "I don't want to be associated with them" seems to indicate that I'm looking at what others think, but it's all about me, and it should be.

 

So it's a matter of honor and sticking with your principles then.

I might not agree with it, but I respect that.

Cheers.

[robertthebard]

So it's a matter of honor and sticking with your principles then.
I might not agree with it, but I respect that.
Cheers.

I wouldn't go so far as honor, but yes.

*raises coffee cup*

Here's to us.

[KBomb]

 
 

...and ya'll don't have to understand. It's not about what other people think, it's about what I think. I get that "I don't want to be associated with them" seems to indicate that I'm looking at what others think, but it's all about me, and it should be. In the specific example that I gave that started me down this road, WoW, I would not only be reading these people in forums, but also, presumably, in game. It is, after all, an MMO, and one would assume that people that run around trying to downplay every game ever made in favor of WoW actually play the game. It was so bad for a while that the tinfoil hat conspiracy nerds actually believed that Blizzard was payin' 'em to do it.

This sets a precedence, however. One that I choose to apply to any game I play, since, as we can see, here I am, in the Spoilers section, looking to discuss Inquisition. This means that I would be on those forums too, and would have to tolerate the fanboys shouting down anything negative I might post. As I said, I haven't been to the forums for TW 3. I didn't buy the game, and don't plan to in the immediate future, so I won't be over there, despite the fact that I actually have an account, since I own the first two installments. However, since the fanboys are so rabid here, I know enough of the story to know that it, like the first two, won't be able to hold me through a completed playthrough.

Of course we don't have to understand it.If I am honest with myself, I don't want to understand it.No offence to you, but I feel a lot of this behavior is rather juvenile, 

 

I'll tell you, DAI has a lot of "rabid" fans, a lot.--but certainly not all. They call people names, insult their intelligence, call them trolls, and refuse to discuss any flaws the game may contain because their game hasn't had an issue, so to them it's no big deal. I have even seen them justify those godawful haircuts. Anytime a thread is made comparing TW3 against DAI, the come in and most exhibit the behavior I mentioned previously. Some will even message you and continue to harass you. During DA2, I made some comment about Mages needed to be in the Circles. For five days straight a poster (not going to mention his name) sent me message after message telling me I was a 

 

*spoiler tagged for mature content*

Spoiler

a nazi and that I advocated rape and how it was his hope that one day I am raped and held prisoner, so I'll know how he felt.He also called me racist and told me it wasn't surprising I was deaf, considering what a horrible person I was lol....yeah, weird.

 

My friends hate my music, they hate the movies I watch, yet I don't care one bit. I do what I want, listen to what I want to listen too, etc. At the moment I have a thousand friends who have burned up my text and emails begging me to watch Orange is the new black. They seem to think it's "Life changing" and spend copious amounts of time tell me how that show is better than >insert whatever show I am watching< I don't care. I may try Orange is the Black in the future or maybe I won't, either way--it's my decision, based on my wants and likes/dislikes and not because it has some rabid fans. Their opinion isn't so exceptional or important enough to influence me to dislike any media. I'l like to think I am more strong will and aptitude to decide if I like something on my own hook. 

 

 

Lastly, if someone is bugging you in-game, mute them, Ignore them and take great comfort that you're more mature than that.Keep muting all the d-bags and the ones that are left are pretty cool. I still got a lot of friends on my Xbox from the days of MW2 and we talk often--about Dragon Age and The Witcher, tbh. If you go on a forum and see a topic that contains words relating to TW3, skip that topic.If it's a topic that you want to read and it starts heading toward TW, place those who are discussing it ignore--which is a beautiful feature. 

 

As for the bolded, well, there is no reason to even venture into any Witcher threads, if the outcome of doing so is unsatisfactory.Also, I have only seen a very small group of people that I would consider "rabid" and they are habitual. Most of the fans I have seen discuss why they feel TW3 is a better game and do so intelligently and without insulting anyone, like for instance--calling them rabid.

[Majestic Jazz]

Of course we don't have to understand it.If I am honest with myself, I don't want to understand it.No offence to you, but I feel a lot of this behavior is rather juvenile,

I'll tell you, DAI has a lot of "rabid" fans, a lot.--but certainly not all. They call people names, insult their intelligence, call them trolls, and refuse to discuss any flaws the game may contain because their game hasn't had an issue, so to them it's no big deal. I have even seen them justify those godawful haircuts. Anytime a thread is made comparing TW3 against DAI, the come in and most exhibit the behavior I mentioned previously. Some will even message you and continue to harass you. During DA2, I made some comment about Mages needed to be in the Circles. For five days straight a poster (not going to mention his name) sent me message after message telling me I was a

*spoiler tagged for mature content*

Spoiler

a nazi and that I advocated rape and how it was his hope that one day I am raped and held prisoner, so I'll know how he felt.He also called me racist and told me it wasn't surprising I was deaf, considering what a horrible person I was lol....yeah, weird.

My friends hate my music, they hate the movies I watch, yet I don't care one bit. I do what I want, listen to what I want to listen too, etc. At the moment I have a thousand friends who have burned up my text and emails begging me to watch Orange is the new black. They seem to think it's "Life changing" and spend copious amounts of time tell me how that show is better than >insert whatever show I am watching< I don't care. I may try Orange is the Black in the future or maybe I won't, either way--it's my decision, based on my wants and likes/dislikes and not because it has some rabid fans. Their opinion isn't so exceptional or important enough to influence me to dislike any media. I'l like to think I am more strong will and aptitude to decide if I like something on my own hook.


Lastly, if someone is bugging you in-game, mute them, Ignore them and take great comfort that you're more mature than that.Keep muting all the d-bags and the ones that are left are pretty cool. I still got a lot of friends on my Xbox from the days of MW2 and we talk often--about Dragon Age and The Witcher, tbh. If you go on a forum and see a topic that contains words relating to TW3, skip that topic.If it's a topic that you want to read and it starts heading toward TW, place those who are discussing it ignore--which is a beautiful feature.

As for the bolded, well, there is no reason to even venture into any Witcher threads, if the outcome of doing so is unsatisfactory.Also, I have only seen a very small group of people that I would consider "rabid" and they are habitual. Most of the fans I have seen discuss why they feel TW3 is a better game and do so intelligently and without insulting anyone, like for instance--calling them rabid.

[Shechinah]

Let me ask a question to KBomb and Beomer: Have any of you seen Dutch's Ghost post in "Feedback... be more like The Witcher 3" because I do not believe I have and I think I've seen them post about Witcher 3 many places but not in that thread which makes me believe that they may not be as much interested in providing feedback and wanting Witcter 3 to help improve the Dragon Age franchise as much as wanting to repeatedly state in threads for no other reason than to do so.

 

That's my center issue with these threads of theirs: they seem to serve no purpose other than cause any mention of Witcher outside of the feedback thread to sour discussions which is a shame. I think there could be a lot of good as well as a lot of fun found in discussing different games and how they could improve one another.

 

I believe such a discussion can be done without pitting the games against one another and putting one down in favor of another.

 

I may not post there because I rarely have much to add to the discussion because I've not played any of the Witcher games but I still like reading the Feedback thread because I find it genuinely interesting.

[robertthebard]

Of course we don't have to understand it.If I am honest with myself, I don't want to understand it.No offence to you, but I feel a lot of this behavior is rather juvenile, 
 
I'll tell you, DAI has a lot of "rabid" fans, a lot.--but certainly not all. They call people names, insult their intelligence, call them trolls, and refuse to discuss any flaws the game may contain because their game hasn't had an issue, so to them it's no big deal. I have even seen them justify those godawful haircuts. Anytime a thread is made comparing TW3 against DAI, the come in and most exhibit the behavior I mentioned previously. Some will even message you and continue to harass you. During DA2, I made some comment about Mages needed to be in the Circles. For five days straight a poster (not going to mention his name) sent me message after message telling me I was a 
 
*spoiler tagged for mature content*

Spoiler

a nazi and that I advocated rape and how it was his hope that one day I am raped and held prisoner, so I'll know how he felt.He also called me racist and told me it wasn't surprising I was deaf, considering what a horrible person I was lol....yeah, weird.

 
My friends hate my music, they hate the movies I watch, yet I don't care one bit. I do what I want, listen to what I want to listen too, etc. At the moment I have a thousand friends who have burned up my text and emails begging me to watch Orange is the new black. They seem to think it's "Life changing" and spend copious amounts of time tell me how that show is better than >insert whatever show I am watching< I don't care. I may try Orange is the Black in the future or maybe I won't, either way--it's my decision, based on my wants and likes/dislikes and not because it has some rabid fans. Their opinion isn't so exceptional or important enough to influence me to dislike any media. I'l like to think I am more strong will and aptitude to decide if I like something on my own hook. 
 
 
Lastly, if someone is bugging you in-game, mute them, Ignore them and take great comfort that you're more mature than that.Keep muting all the d-bags and the ones that are left are pretty cool. I still got a lot of friends on my Xbox from the days of MW2 and we talk often--about Dragon Age and The Witcher, tbh. If you go on a forum and see a topic that contains words relating to TW3, skip that topic.If it's a topic that you want to read and it starts heading toward TW, place those who are discussing it ignore--which is a beautiful feature. 
 
As for the bolded, well, there is no reason to even venture into any Witcher threads, if the outcome of doing so is unsatisfactory.Also, I have only seen a very small group of people that I would consider "rabid" and they are habitual. Most of the fans I have seen discuss why they feel TW3 is a better game and do so intelligently and without insulting anyone, like for instance--calling them rabid.

I just want to call your attention to one thing: This is the Dragon Age Inquisition General Discussion forum, spoilers allowed. So if you want to discuss the Witcher, maybe head over to CDPR's forums? That is, at the end of the day, what they're there for. What I find juvenile is this juvenile need to force feed people on other forums your view of a game that actually has it's own forums, and people that genuinely want to discuss it. However, hello, part of the problem? You, and people exactly like you are the reason I won't be playing TW 3. You see, while you say "There's no need for you to open a Witcher thread", I say "there's no reason for anyone to start one, on these forums". Take it over to CDPR's forums, you'll be surprised how many posts I don't have over there, condemning people discussing TW 3.

[KBomb]

Let me ask a question to KBomb and Beomer: Have any of you seen Dutch's Ghost post in "Feedback... be more like The Witcher 3" because I do not believe I have and I think I've seen them post about Witcher 3 many places but not in that thread which makes me believe that they may not be as much interested in providing feedback and wanting Witcter 3 to help improve the Dragon Age franchise as much as wanting to repeatedly state in threads for no other reason than to do so.

 

That's my center issue with these threads of theirs: they seem to serve no purpose other than cause any mention of Witcher outside of the feedback thread to sour discussions which is a shame. I think there could be a lot of good as well as a lot of fun found in discussing different games and how they could improve one another.

 

I believe such a discussion can be done without pitting the games against one another and putting one down in favor of another.

 

I may not post there because I rarely have much to add to the discussion because I've not played any of the Witcher games but I still like reading the Feedback thread because I find it genuinely interesting.

 

I believe I have seen him in that thread, but don't quote me on. A lot of people pass through that thread. I also believe a good discussion can arise without pitting games against each other, but that is sometimes a natural course of discussion. It's going to happen and it does happen when discussing books, movies, games, music, plays, etc. 

I just want to call your attention to one thing: This is the Dragon Age Inquisition General Discussion forum, spoilers allowed. So if you want to discuss the Witcher, maybe head over to CDPR's forums? That is, at the end of the day, what they're there for. What I find juvenile is this juvenile need to force feed people on other forums your view of a game that actually has it's own forums, and people that genuinely want to discuss it. However, hello, part of the problem? You, and people exactly like you are the reason I won't be playing TW 3. You see, while you say "There's no need for you to open a Witcher thread", I say "there's no reason for anyone to start one, on these forums". Take it over to CDPR's forums, you'll be surprised how many posts I don't have over there, condemning people discussing TW 3.

So, you want to become a moderator? It's a General Discussion forum which allows spoilers. The question asked was basically: Do you think Trespasser (a DA dlc) will have any influence from TW3? Tell me, is it off topic because it's discussing another game at all, or just because it's TW? Asking whether or not an upcoming  DA DLC has taken any cues from another game which was wildly successful doesn't seem like a thread that would be off topic for a General Discussion thread concerning Dragon Age. After all, he is discussing the new dlc for DAI and there was nothing caustic in his question. 

 

And force feed? No one made you click this thread. No one. You claim you hate seeing them, but instead of passing them by, you come in and join the conversation, becoming a part of it. There are people here who do actually want to have a discussion, and it was a legitimate question. Especially since it's a subject a lot of people have been wondering about. Dutch insulting and baited no one, in fact, the first incendiary comment came from a DAI fan--one that Dutch tried to ignore and continued with his discussion. Two posts after that, someone insults him again and after that it becomes more about how truly awful Witcher fans are and how they ruin adult's entertainment. 

 

And what do you mean by "People like me"? Do you know me? You're going to tell me that because I made a quick statement to you about this thread, suddenly you can no longer enjoy or try to enjoy a video game? lol rly? 

 

I understand you are trying to moderate and all, but if you really dislike these threads, I suggest passing them by and ignoring them completely. Personally, I dislike the 9 million romance and diversity threads that pop up all the time. I just stay out of them. Ignore them completely and my day is better for it. Get some strength of mind and don't allow complete strangers dictate your life or your decision. If talking to Witcher fans is so draining, wouldn't it make more sense to avoid the threads that are created? The majority of the posters are made by people who come in to complain about the thread--the thread they hate to see--the thread that would most likely sink to the bottom if they didn't keep bumping it with defence moves. 

 

But please, continue to moderate. Continue to allow me and others to influence the decisions in your life (still not sure how I accomplish such a feat.) I wish you luck with it. Good day.

[Majestic Jazz]

I believe I have seen him in that thread, but don't quote me on. A lot of people pass through that thread. I also believe a good discussion can arise without pitting games against each other, but that is sometimes a natural course of discussion. It's going to happen and it does happen when discussing books, movies, games, music, plays, etc.
So, you want to become a moderator? It's a General Discussion forum which allows spoilers. The question asked was basically: Do you think Trespasser (a DA dlc) will have any influence from TW3? Tell me, is it off topic because it's discussing another game at all, or just because it's TW? Asking whether or not an upcoming DA DLC has taken any cues from another game which was wildly successful doesn't seem like a thread that would be off topic for a General Discussion thread concerning Dragon Age. After all, he is discussing the new dlc for DAI and there was nothing caustic in his question.

And force feed? No one made you click this thread. No one. You claim you hate seeing them, but instead of passing them by, you come in and join the conversation, becoming a part of it. There are people here who do actually want to have a discussion, and it was a legitimate question. Especially since it's a subject a lot of people have been wondering about. Dutch insulting and baited no one, in fact, the first incendiary comment came from a DAI fan--one that Dutch tried to ignore and continued with his discussion. Two posts after that, someone insults him again and after that it becomes more about how truly awful Witcher fans are and how they ruin adult's entertainment.

And what do you mean by "People like me"? Do you know me? You're going to tell me that because I made a quick statement to you about this thread, suddenly you can no longer enjoy or try to enjoy a video game? lol rly?

I understand you are trying to moderate and all, but if you really dislike these threads, I suggest passing them by and ignoring them completely. Personally, I dislike the 9 million romance and diversity threads that pop up all the time. I just stay out of them. Ignore them completely and my day is better for it. Get some strength of mind and don't allow complete strangers dictate your life or your decision. If talking to Witcher fans is so draining, wouldn't it make more sense to avoid the threads that are created? The majority of the posters are made by people who come in to complain about the thread--the thread they hate to see--the thread that would most likely sink to the bottom if they didn't keep bumping it with defence moves.

But please, continue to moderate. Continue to allow me and others to influence the decisions in your life (still not sure how I accomplish such a feat.) I wish you luck with it. Good day.

I think the main problem is that the comparison was made with TW3. Had it been another game like.....The Last of Us or something like that, then the heat would not have been so high. However because TW3 has become somewhat of a "Anti-DAI" symbol not only here at BSN, but in the larger online community, many DAI fans have an immediate gag reflex to seeing anything TW3. Its like going to the Battlefield 4 forums and asking if Battlefield 5 might take cues from Call of Duty. Even if the question is legit, people will automatically react negatively cause it is CoD. If thd comparision was Halo 5 or Killzone, then it would be less hostile, but again, Battlefield is like the anti-CoD so of course any BF vs CoD discussions would be heated.

I think it was Ariella that told me that you cannot compare TW3 and DAI cause DAI is about a person saving the world and TW3 is a person saving his daughter and somehow that meant that both games cannot be compared, even in terms of quest design, open world immersion, and even hair. I called her out om her illogical statement and as a result, she blocked me. I did not harrass her, call her racist or sexist things, I just had a differing opnion and called her out on not making a logical sense as to how does a character motive be the defining factor to why two games cannot be compared on certain items. I think many DAI fans can be just as extreme/closed minded as the TW3 fans that they despise. The door swings both ways.

At the end of the day TW3 sold 6 million in 6 weeks and got higher review scores that DAI so TW3 is far from a failure and is obvious that it is gaining much creditbility in the industry. I seriously doubt that Bioware will not look to take cues from TW3 in not only Trespasser, but even in DA4, just because some of their fans wants to act like nothing good can come from TW3. Bioware looked to Gears of War and other shooters like Uncharted when making Mass Effect 2. They also looked to Skyrim when making DAI. So what makes people believe Bioware will not use outside inspiration again when making future content? What makes them believe that Bioware will specifically not look at TW3?

[CronoDragoon]

So what makes people believe Bioware will not use outside inspiration again when making future content? What makes them believe that Bioware will specifically not look at TW3?

 

They might indeed take some things from TW3, but the notion that Trespasser is them doing so just because it's more linear and story driven doesn't make any sense. Mike Laidlaw has done interviews where he mentioned fans wanting such a DLC since before The Witcher 3 even released. It's completely unrelated to TW3 and is entirely related to how a subset of fans feel about tight, cinematic-driven content vs. regional open world exploration in a BioWare game, a discussion which has been going on since before even KOTOR.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

My reaction exactly.

But apparently it's a logical thing to do because if you play any game like TW3, or WoW, or CoD you get clubbed in with the most annoying group of players of the game's fanbase and that's bad for your image in front of.....someone.....I don't know that's all I could get.

 

Let try this: say 1000 here raved and said that: "That the new Transformers game is the greatest game ever made and that BioWare should just copy everything out that game and make all of their games like it!" and did constantly in every thread now they act borderline trolls posting these annoying threads, saying by saying over and over and over and over: "ME:A needs to be more like Transformers" or "DA4 needs to be more like Transformers" and these posters never let up and constantly say Optimus Prime is better than any of BioWare's heroes and Megatron is better than any of their villains.

 

Now could play and enjoy a game (or any media for that) that you have been beaten over the head with and told you're not a "real" fan (whatever that means) until you play this game or watched that movie, TV show, read that book, etc?

 

This is the problem with people like Dutch's Ghost and others like him that they want and think The Witcher 3 being a great game that they can't or won't understand why people don't like it and they feel it's an insult to them and then they turn around and lash out at other players who can't play (PC is too old and currently don't have an Xbox One or a PS4...yet) or just don't like the game for any reason and now they want Bioware to make basically a TW3 clone for one their games (which as pointed out earlier in this thread and elsewhere would NOT work) and think every game should be just like The Witcher 3.

 

Having been in so many different fandoms and subsets of various fandoms this has happened to me more times than I can count and it does sap a lot of enjoyment out things it's one reason why I hated The Witcher 2 because everyone and their brother kept saying how great this game is and was totally disapponted by a game everyone raved about, and I honestly was bored after the first hour because it was so lackluster.

 

Or the fact that people won't shut up and keep raving about it and/or it's sequel and taking anybody's critisims, no matter the value or they are presented as a personal attack against them. Like that one game critic who called out TW3 troubling issues with women and lack of people of color but still liked the game overall and was attacked for it all over social media for it.       

[Beren Von Ostwick]

What I don't get is why the mods close other threads due to them being repeat/duplicate threads so quickly, but tend to let this asinine witcher ones stay open when there is one dedicated to it already.

 

Case in point:  Exactly one hour and less than one page of posts from thread opening to being locked.

[CronoDragoon]

I really don't understand the mentality of allowing people you don't even know to ruin an experience, whether it's gaming, music, movies, etc. Especially when you can completely ignore the avenues that exposes you to such influence. 

 

Sure, but then you need to avoid discussing your favorite games on the internet altogether, something you might really enjoy doing when it's thoughtful discussion.

 

As for the people you don't know thing, is it really that hard to understand? Maybe you have impervious emotional armor, but negativity affects the psyche regardless of the source. It's how mean tweets can ruin someone's day, or bumping into someone and getting called an a-hole because of it can really rile someone up. After awhile, if the same stuff keeps cropping up, it gets implanted into the back of your mind and pops up whenever you start playing a game.

[Lady Ishtar]

The irony is that the number one complaint about reusing areas in da 2 can be applied to Witch Hunt in spades.

Recycled mage tower, recycle Flemeth's recycle Cadash Thaig, recycled final areas of Awakenings.

You got dog back and two new companions in what amounts to a huge fetch quest. You're just trying to fetch Morrigan

 

What made Dragon Age during and before Witch Hunt and Dragon Age "not Dragon Age" after Witch Hunt? 

Stat points per level for starters, the godlike feature, still present in DA2 but in a simpler way which disgusts me. Stats were simplified making builds boring. In DAI we don't distribute stats aka it is not RPG.

I said thousands of times, I care not for reused areas, my little pony in Thedas or even if it becomes Mario Party as long as I have a character sheet, 3 stat points per level, non combat skills, actionless combat, NO JUMP, stat based dialogue and other things present in DAO/A and all DLCs because they were part of core game mechanic. Witch Hunt could be about cooking with Morrigan in Flemeth's hut as long as those were present. I'd still pay 100 euros.

RPG = Character development, as in character sheet building
Story, world, choices, etc, all irrelevant. My character is my character sheet not what she does, says or kills (except, of course, when these are direct reflection of my character sheet/building).

[correctamundo]

Had it been another game like.....The Last of Us or something like that, then the heat would not have been so high.

 

It has nothing to do with the game The witcher 3 and everything to do with the witcher fanbuoys.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I said thousands of times, I care not for reused areas, my little pony in Thedas or even if it becomes Mario Party as long as I have a character sheet, 3 stat points per level, non combat skills, actionless combat, NO JUMP, stat based dialogue and other things present in DAO/A and all DLCs because they were part of core game mechanic.

 

This is probably a silly question, but why don't you just go play Pillars of Eternity instead? You distribute all your basic stat points at the start of the game instead of getting them every level, but it's full of skills that are useful outside combat, talents and abilities that you increase throughout the game, has completely action-free combat and loads of stat-based dialogue. And there is no jumping whatsoever. If you want, you can even make an entire party and have six  complicated character sheets to stare at.

 

(It also has a great story and interesting characters, but I guess that's neither here nor there from your point of view.)

[robertthebard]

I believe I have seen him in that thread, but don't quote me on. A lot of people pass through that thread. I also believe a good discussion can arise without pitting games against each other, but that is sometimes a natural course of discussion. It's going to happen and it does happen when discussing books, movies, games, music, plays, etc. 
So, you want to become a moderator? It's a General Discussion forum which allows spoilers. The question asked was basically: Do you think Trespasser (a DA dlc) will have any influence from TW3? Tell me, is it off topic because it's discussing another game at all, or just because it's TW? Asking whether or not an upcoming  DA DLC has taken any cues from another game which was wildly successful doesn't seem like a thread that would be off topic for a General Discussion thread concerning Dragon Age. After all, he is discussing the new dlc for DAI and there was nothing caustic in his question. 
 
And force feed? No one made you click this thread. No one. You claim you hate seeing them, but instead of passing them by, you come in and join the conversation, becoming a part of it. There are people here who do actually want to have a discussion, and it was a legitimate question. Especially since it's a subject a lot of people have been wondering about. Dutch insulting and baited no one, in fact, the first incendiary comment came from a DAI fan--one that Dutch tried to ignore and continued with his discussion. Two posts after that, someone insults him again and after that it becomes more about how truly awful Witcher fans are and how they ruin adult's entertainment. 
 
And what do you mean by "People like me"? Do you know me? You're going to tell me that because I made a quick statement to you about this thread, suddenly you can no longer enjoy or try to enjoy a video game? lol rly? 
 
I understand you are trying to moderate and all, but if you really dislike these threads, I suggest passing them by and ignoring them completely. Personally, I dislike the 9 million romance and diversity threads that pop up all the time. I just stay out of them. Ignore them completely and my day is better for it. Get some strength of mind and don't allow complete strangers dictate your life or your decision. If talking to Witcher fans is so draining, wouldn't it make more sense to avoid the threads that are created? The majority of the posters are made by people who come in to complain about the thread--the thread they hate to see--the thread that would most likely sink to the bottom if they didn't keep bumping it with defence moves. 
 
But please, continue to moderate. Continue to allow me and others to influence the decisions in your life (still not sure how I accomplish such a feat.) I wish you luck with it. Good day.

This is the forum header:

General Discussion (Spoilers)

Discuss rumors, journalism, convention coverage and social media surrounding Dragon Age: Inquisition.

What does that bolded and underlined part say again? Oh yeah, that little inconvenience of rumors, journalism, conventions and social media surrounding what? Oh yeah, Dragon Age Inquisition. You can see it at the top of most pages, maybe even this one, if you think I'm making stuff up. You can get as agitated as you like, discussion of TW 3 is off topic for this forum, and therefore against the rules, that's why, prior to them shutting down Off Topic, the threads were, generally, moved there. I wonder how long it would take CDPR to ban me if I went over and started singing the praises of Dragon Age? I also wonder if someone very much like you wouldn't point me to these forums if I want to discuss Dragon Age.

All things considered, you've spent quite a bit of time on something that you're not concerned with, haven't you? Whether or not I'll play TW 3 shouldn't bother you in the slightest, you've even claimed it doesn't, and yet, here's the really long post, lamenting whether or not I'll play. Have fun with that.

[Elhanan]

Stat points per level for starters, the godlike feature, still present in DA2 but in a simpler way which disgusts me. Stats were simplified making builds boring. In DAI we don't distribute stats aka it is not RPG.

I said thousands of times, I care not for reused areas, my little pony in Thedas or even if it becomes Mario Party as long as I have a character sheet, 3 stat points per level, non combat skills, actionless combat, NO JUMP, stat based dialogue and other things present in DAO/A and all DLCs because they were part of core game mechanic. Witch Hunt could be about cooking with Morrigan in Flemeth's hut as long as those were present. I'd still pay 100 euros.

RPG = Character development, as in character sheet building
Story, world, choices, etc, all irrelevant. My character is my character sheet not what she does, says or kills (except, of course, when these are direct reflection of my character sheet/building).

Then predetermined characters at Cons or tournaments are not RPG's. Ultima games with jumping are not CRPG's. Etc.

Opinions, prejudice, and bias do not equate to facts.

[Elhanan]

@ Majestic Jazz

Then at the end of the day, Skyrim must be a far superior game to TW3 due to overall sales. But as you keep pointing out frequently, sales do not equate to quality. However, they are a financial success. Skyrim, TW3, and DAI are all successful, and all are different kinds of games.

[Nefla]

 

Let try this: say 1000 here raved and said that: "That the new Transformers game is the greatest game ever made and that BioWare should just copy everything out that game and make all of their games like it!" and did constantly in every thread now they act borderline trolls posting these annoying threads, saying by saying over and over and over and over: "ME:A needs to be more like Transformers" or "DA4 needs to be more like Transformers" and these posters never let up and constantly say Optimus Prime is better than any of BioWare's heroes and Megatron is better than any of their villains.

 

Now could play and enjoy a game (or any media for that) that you have been beaten over the head with and told you're not a "real" fan (whatever that means) until you play this game or watched that movie, TV show, read that book, etc?

You really think thousands of TW3 fans are constantly posting in every thread and beating people over the head with TW3? That's simply not the case. I've posted in dozens of threads in the past couple days and the only one where someone mentioned TW3 is this one and it's not like it was a sucker punch, it has "Witcher 3" as part of the title. If all of the Witcher fans actually "never let up" then every single thread on the forums would be filled with hundreds of TW3 posts and there would be hundreds of TW3 threads. People compare the two games in threads like this one and the one in the feedback forums because the games are very similar in style and structure and yet TW3 is more polished in almost every way. To me every aspect felt lovingly crafted and planned out well ahead of time instead of "we ran out of time/resources so we'll just do it like this." It also felt like "if TW3 could do ___ and do it really well, why was DA:I so disappointing in that aspect?" I wanted DA:I to be great and it wasn't, but then TW3 came along and blew me away and I can't help but thinking about what could have been or what could possibly be in the future.

[Giantdeathrobot]

It is a fact that Bioware needs to improve their animation, world design (none of the towns/villages/ect feel alive in any DA game) and quest design. Bioware has always been good with sound design at least.

 

Unlike the fabases that seem to hate eachother, CDP and Bioware have laot of respect to eachother and you can dam be sure CDP decided to work on a Cyberpunk game because they where inspired by what Bioware did with Baldurs Gate (As Cyberpunk is a PnP RPG)

 

That is true. CDPR has adopted several things from Bioware- the paraphrase system if nothing else. The two franchises have influenced each other, and there seems to be little to no bad blood between the developpers (why should there be, they are profesionnals after all).

 

The silly fandom wars get on my nerves precisely because they're so pointless. You could just chalk it up to different people liking different things or accept that liking Dragon Age is in no way mutually exclusive with liking The Witcher, but noooo, gotta pretend X game is perfection itself and Y game is crap, gotta ''prove'' which game is the best and gotta shout down anyone who says otherwise because obviously they are inbred simpletons.

[Shechinah]

That is true. CDPR has adopted several things from Bioware- the paraphrase system if nothing else. The two franchises have influenced each other, and there seems to be little to no bad blood between the developpers (why should there be, they are profesionnals after all).

 

The developers of the respective franchises also congratulate each other on things like awards and freely admit that not only do they play each other's games, they also enjoy doing so. It may be professionalism but it does come across as genuine on the part of both companies.