I love the idea of a cyborg humanity and/ or humans being very close to synthetics and what if we could romance them? Not all synthetics are Mass Effect AIs, maybe some other alien synthetic has some form of emotion and is hyper advanced? If BioWare can allow "Homosexual" romances than why not synthetics?
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As an aspiring cyborg, I fully endorse romantic relationships with machines. Indeed, I'm quite close to my toaster.
Eh, sure, why not? Why should Joker get all the fun.
I'm actually in favour of this. Teaching an intelligence how to love could make for an interesting romance. However, it would have to be a character like EDI, who was built with those programs that allowed her to simulate responses based on things. It gave her something to hold whilst she learnt other things, such as how to feel. Romancing any old AI would be like romancing a baby... a very intelligent baby. Doesn't know how to respond. Doesn't know how to act. You're teaching it to love you, and all it's going to reply with is "yes". It doesn't know how to feel, so essentially you are just using this object. It's not exactly the basis for a healthy relationship.
Though, now that I think about it. Teaching a robot to love would feel more in place with some cheesy romantic sci-fi drama than a game.
All AI's are not all dumb look at Halo's AI's, they are very smart and are capable of relationships.
...I think I saw this Topic before... multiple Times...
In before the Andramada... oh, dammit, still not worth any points!
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All AI's are not all dumb look at Halo's AI's, they are very smart and are capable of relationships.
Halo's AI's are not Mass Effect's AI's.
Which isn't to say ME's AI's are incapable of relationships; EDI proved that they are. But we shouldn't go assuming that they all are.
It is worth noting that at least one of Bioware's major writers, David Gaider, has expressed a distaste for the "teaching someone to love" story as he feels it makes the relationship inherently imbalanced. This came up a lot in the lead up to Dragon Age: Inquisition, where a lot, and I mean a lot of people wanted to romance Cole, a spirit who had no concept of romance, which Gaider likened to wanted to romance someone with the mentality of a child.
If they were to do something like this I imagine it would be similar, though not identical, to EDI's arc with Joker. That was about EDI exploring and learning about the idea of romance, but no one was "teaching" her. We were giving her advice, but it was just that, advice. She was making her own decisions, which kept the relationship from being too imbalanced.
Before that, I want to know what Tali's sweat taste like before moving to AI.
Before that, I want to know what Tali's sweat taste like before moving to AI.
Kiwi.
Didn't you get the memo?
Halo's AI's are not Mass Effect's AI's.
Which isn't to say ME's AI's are incapable of relationships; EDI proved that they are. But we shouldn't go assuming that they all are.
It is worth noting that at least one of Bioware's major writers, David Gaider, has expressed a distaste for the "teaching someone to love" story as he feels it makes the relationship inherently imbalanced. This came up a lot in the lead up to Dragon Age: Inquisition, where a lot, and I mean a lot of people wanted to romance Cole, a spirit who had no concept of romance, which Gaider likened to wanted to romance someone with the mentality of a child.
If they were to do something like this I imagine it would be similar, though not identical, to EDI's arc with Joker. That was about EDI exploring and learning about the idea of romance, but no one was "teaching" her. We were giving her advice, but it was just that, advice. She was making her own decisions, which kept the relationship from being too imbalanced.
But this IS andromeda were talking about
If you can get past the uncanny valley (Joker/EDI was. . .eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh) and make it interesting? Sure why not.
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Ehh if there is an AI romance I really hope they aren't like EDI, appearance wise I mean strictly appearance wise, though I'd personally be much more interested in the possible intellectual and emotional connection if such a romance were to occur than I would anything physical, which might be why EDI eks me out a tiny bit. Also if we're going to have an AI LI I'd rather prefer an interesting design over 'attractive human that happens to be made of metal bits', all this is my own bias of course but there are my few cents.
I think the problem is that how how would Al develop romantic and sexual feelings. Cause I don't think EDI did in ME even if she dated Joker and I think with geth who are less human-like- they don't have same interest and will to imitate organics like EDI does- it would be even harder to comprehend emotions needed for romance. Thus to me it seems like romance with Al will always be quite one-sided. Cyborgs are wholly different case, cause they are human first, machine second.
I think the problem is that how how would Al develop romantic and sexual feelings. Cause I don't think EDI did in ME even if she dated Joker and I think with geth who are less human-like- they don't have same interest and will to imitate organics like EDI does- it would be even harder to comprehend emotions needed for romance. Thus to me it seems like romance with Al will always be quite one-sided. Cyborgs are wholly different case, cause they are human first, machine second.
But AI's in Andromeda are probably not based on Ezo so you don't know how smart they can be, and ED-E was created only 20yrs after the first human AI was made, so I'm sure they could get a lot smarter, just add another 200yrs of research.
I think the problem is that how how would Al develop romantic and sexual feelings. Cause I don't think EDI did in ME even if she dated Joker and I think with geth who are less human-like- they don't have same interest and will to imitate organics like EDI does- it would be even harder to comprehend emotions needed for romance. Thus to me it seems like romance with Al will always be quite one-sided. Cyborgs are wholly different case, cause they are human first, machine second.
You know, I've always noticed that fiction has this really sideways view of what AI's are capable of. It's often stated that they're emotionless, but we never raise an eyebrow about them experiencing emotions like anger, hatred, or fear. But when they start displaying positive emotions, everyone questions it.
But the way I see it, if you can get angry, you can get happy. If you can hate something, you can love something. If you can fear something, you can desire something.
All emotions are to us are a chemical reaction in our brain in response to certain stimuli; I don't see why an AI couldn't have those same, or at least similar responses to similar stimuli; they wouldn't be based on the same organic chemical reaction, but that doesn't make it impossible.
AI in ME have been established to be capable of anger and fear, but also capable of loyalty, humor, compassion, consideration, and curiosity. They can become sentimental, they can value the lives of others above their own. To me, this shows, at the very least, a capacity for romantic intimacy.
Sexual desire is a little trickier, because they wouldn't have a need for sex to reproduce so they don't have that same drive to it, but EDI at least shows some curiosity on the subject. If nothing else, if we were to accept that an AI could develop feelings of romantic intimacy regarding an organic, it might be possible or even likely that they would want to satisfy their romantic partner just out of the selfless desire to see them happy. Though I suppose that could be construed as onesided.
I think the space hamster deserves some love, too
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Sexual desire is a little trickier, because they wouldn't have a need for sex to reproduce so they don't have that same drive to it, but EDI at least shows some curiosity on the subject. If nothing else, if we were to accept that an AI could develop feelings of romantic intimacy regarding an organic, it might be possible or even likely that they would want to satisfy their romantic partner just out of the selfless desire to see them happy. Though I suppose that could be construed as onesided.
"Upgrades". *handwaves the topic*
But yeah, I agree with you.
An A.I. synthetic would have electricity running throughout her... huh... I wonder... if she offered some head, would it be a shocking experience?
Regardless, I would romance an A.I. if she possesses a nice hot body to touch. If she is a hologram or ugly robot thing, then no.
So a walking box with a fleshlight and voice settings from shrill to sultry is a no-go, eh?
It's like confusion and arousal are playing death chess. I'm so conflicted.
So a walking box with a fleshlight and voice settings from shrill to sultry is a no-go, eh?
It's like confusion and arousal are playing death chess. I'm so conflicted.
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