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Does gay marriage exist in Thedas?


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Flog the Undying

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(Please keep it civil, for everyone's sake.)

 

So how exactly does marriage work in Thedas? Is it always within the chantry? And can a dude marry a dude, a gal marry a gal, a mx marry a mx?

 

Hearing about the two year time skip got me speculating about the futures of each romance, and I wondered whether marriage was in the pipeline for my dorianmancer.


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I think marriage in Thedas more of a thing that happens between noble families to tie them together and produce offspring with their names carrying over and stuff. I always got the impression that marriage is not something made out of love in Thedas (at least not primary) and so it's not important for same sex couples to marry.


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There's a codex called Sexuality in Thedas that addresses this point. In short, marriage among the nobility/elites etc is done for legal, contractual, or treaty reasons for the most part. The point is to have legitimate heirs to titles.

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No.


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Beren Von Ostwick

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Don't forget that marriage that is in the city elf origins story of DAO. 


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thats1evildude

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Well, Maevaris Tilani — a transgender mage — did marry Varric's cousin, so ....



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Marriage is clearly not just a nobles thing - obviously that would just be hetero. Marriage takes place in the city elf origin, and many npcs who clearly aren't nobles refer to their 'husbands' or 'wives'

 

 

No.

 
Source please?
 

thats1evildude, on 01 Sept 2015 - 10:15 PM, said:snapback.png

 


Well, Maevaris Tilani — a transgender mage — did marry Varric's cousin, so ....

 

 

That's straight marriage though



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The point of the CE marriage is to produce offspring, as the elven population is in decline.

 

That's straight marriage though

 

Well, it sure wasn't going to produce any heirs.


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There's a codex called Sexuality in Thedas that addresses this point. In short, marriage among the nobility/elites etc is done for legal, contractual, or treaty reasons for the most part. The point is to have legitimate heirs to titles.

 

That would be among the nobility yeah going by that book and how little concern anyone gives your sexuality in say Orlais, I can easily imagine that among the 'lower' classes that yeah, you can have Gay marriage and no one really bats an eye. Obviously no source for that, but it would seem to follow that once you leave the classes where Marriage is a Political thing not a matter of love that it becomes irrelevent what the genders of the two people are, and just becomes about love. 



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The point of the CE marriage is to produce offspring, as the elven population is in decline.

 

 

Well, it sure wasn't going to produce any heirs.

 

Ah okay, about the CE thing.

 

On 'it isn't going to produce any heirs' - would you say a marriage between a sterile man and a sterile woman isn't heterosexual?


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Mawwiage ... mawwiage is what bwings us twogether twoday ...

 

On 'it isn't going to produce any heirs' - would you say a marriage between a sterile man and a sterile woman isn't heterosexual?

 

No, it is.

 

I'm not sure what we're arguing here. Maevaris was a man (albeit one living as a woman) who married another man. Ergo, there is gay marriage in Thedas.



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I do not believe I've seen a case of marriage between two people of the same gender in the Dragon Age universe so I'd say no.



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Escapism would probably be lost with the showing of homosexual marriages in game.
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Well, Maevaris Tilani — a transgender mage — did marry Varric's cousin, so ....

World of Thedas Vol. 2 states that they weren't actually married (from a legal standpoint). Everyone still acted like they were, though.

There was a very old source from David Gaider that was linked on the wiki page. It stated that the Chantry only performed heterosexual marriages, because it considered the goal of marriage to be the production of children. Meanwhile, groups like the dwarves and Dalish, whose populations are threatened, would have put pressure on their members to reproduce in order to keep populations up. I'll see if I can find that link.

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Here's the link:

http://www.gamebansh...-v15-94324.html
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You're thinking Saint's Row.


No, Toronto pride parade.

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Mawwiage ... mawwiage is what bwings us twogether twoday ...

 

 

No, it is.

 

I'm not sure what we're arguing here. Maevaris was a man (albeit one living as a woman) who married another man. Ergo, there is gay marriage in Thedas.

 

I thought Maevaris was transgender? 



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Are there pride parades and giant purple dildos too?

 

(Please keep it civil, for everyone's sake.)



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my warden married the queen so yes



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The codex indicates that marriage in Thedas is traditionally about children and combining households for the purposes of raising children. Not love. Hence there would be no reason for same-sex people to marry (which is shoddy reasoning objectively, but whatever).

 

Obviously, S/S couples live like they were married all over the place, however.



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The codex indicates that marriage in Thedas is traditionally about children and combining households for the purposes of raising children. Not love. Hence there would be no reason for same-sex people to marry (which is shoddy reasoning objectively, but whatever).

Not like there are any adoption agencies in Thedas.  Orphans seem to just get sent to the Chantry by default (Or left at the door in the case of an unwanted child).



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Yes, the writers really didn't consider the various ways that same-sex couples can have children, as well as opposite-sex couples who can't and don't.


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I got the impression outside of nobility an the such no one really bothers about marriage



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I'd expect something more like handfasting for the commoner types, whereas the marriage contract for nobles is its own separate things. So while you might not have big weddings for everyone, there's probably some sort of formality done, and that can easily be said as done by any couple.


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That would be among the nobility yeah going by that book and how little concern anyone gives your sexuality in say Orlais, I can easily imagine that among the 'lower' classes that yeah, you can have Gay marriage and no one really bats an eye. Obviously no source for that, but it would seem to follow that once you leave the classes where Marriage is a Political thing not a matter of love that it becomes irrelevent what the genders of the two people are, and just becomes about love. 

 

I'm only addressing the nobility aspect due to Flog's comment that this deals with the Inquisitor and Dorian which has a huge bag of plot cats beyond how the upper classes (which is how the Inquisitor is expected to behave) regard marriage. 

 

It's a wedding I'd love to see however. :)



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I got the impression outside of nobility an the such no one really bothers about marriage

They do though. You hear people talking about their husbands and wives all the time - not partners, girlfriends, and boyfriends.