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[Beren Von Ostwick]

I think they are referring to the gossiping nobles in the main hall of Skyhold, not the Winter Palace.

[daveliam]

I think they are referring to the gossiping nobles in the main hall of Skyhold, not the Winter Palace.

 

Huh.  I've never heard them either.  Seriously, how did I miss gay content?  I'm so disappointed in myself!

[Beren Von Ostwick]

Hang around the door to the garden / chantry area.  You should hear some sort of comment even if not in a romance.

[Dai Grepher]

You suggested this note was from Celene. So I thought you said Eamon didn't write the note. Which he did. Hence my response.

 

No, I wrote that the note Cailan crumpled up and then smoothed out again was one that Celene sent him. Eamon's letter was not crumpled up, which indicates that Cailan was not angry with him at the time.
 

[FiveThreeTen]

^ well you phrasing was weird. We agree eamon wasn't angry.

[TK514]

I don't see any particular reason why it couldn't exist, I just don't see any particular reason it would.

[Dai Grepher]

@FiveThreeTen You mean Cailan wasn't angry with Eamon? Because that was my only point here. I wasn't even going to reply to it, but alas.

 

And while I'm here, those saying marriage can apply to same-sex couples in Thedas are engaging in fanfiction. Ferelden considers homosexuality to be odd. Tevinter abhors it except for entertainment purposes (among slaves). Orlais doesn't mind it, but marriage is a political practice for uniting families through heirs. Gaider said it doesn't exist, and the canon does not contradict him.

[FiveThreeTen]

^yes, no angryess btw them either way that would cause Eamon to not send troops or Cailan to not expect troops from Eamon.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

I would say yes for two reasons:

1) The Inquisitor can propose to Sera.

 

2) Josie's sister makes a reference that Josie and the Inquisitor can elope. 

[berelinde]

Well, Maevaris Tilani — a transgender mage — did marry Varric's cousin, so ....

 

 

That's straight marriage though

 

 

Well, it sure wasn't going to produce any heirs.

 

According to Vivienne, marriage serves two purposes: to produce heirs and to cement alliances. While Maevaris's marriage to Varric's cousin was never going to produce heirs (although it could have, through surrogacy or adoption), it most certainly could be considered an alliance. The social and political union between a magister and a merchant prince - especially one with ties to the lyrium trade - would be formidable.

 

But Flog is right. It's a straight marriage.

[berelinde]

Huh.  I've never heard them either.  Seriously, how did I miss gay content?  I'm so disappointed in myself!

It isn't uniquely gay content, as they say the same thing about all the LIs. First, there's an observation that the inquisitor is committed to being single, then a few transparent sexual innuendos ("Has there been an exchange?") voiced by the inimitable Stephane Cornicard, then a comment about how scandalous it all is, and finally a discussion about what to wear to the wedding and how disastrous it would be if the fashions change before they set a date.

 

I'm ashamed to say this, but I stalk them to hear what they're going to say next.

[X Equestris]

According to Vivienne, marriage serves two purposes: to produce heirs and to cement alliances. While Maevaris's marriage to Varric's cousin was never going to produce heirs (although it could have, through surrogacy or adoption), it most certainly could be considered an alliance. The social and political union between a magister and a merchant prince - especially one with ties to the lyrium trade - would be formidable.
 
But Flog is right. It's a straight marriage.

WoT Volume 2 states that they weren't actually married, anyway.

[berelinde]

Dammit, I have that book sitting at home, but its size intimidates me.

[Dai Grepher]

The NPC comments about a wedding between an Inquisitor and companion of the same sex is probably a bug. Also, as one who romanced Cassandra, I never got any romance related comments from any NPCs. Strange.

 

My Hero of Ferelden playthrough may have gotten something though. NPCs are talking about someone being single and what a shame that is.

[Potato Cat]

Huh.  I've never heard them either.  Seriously, how did I miss gay content?  I'm so disappointed in myself!

 

It's this conversation, I believe, (and the one before which mentions betrothals). But they're a series of conversations that are essentially written to apply across the romances very broadly. While Cullen is not a noble, and can be romanced by a definitely not noble Dalish elf, he is also grouped in the series of conversations that apply better to Cassandra, Josephine and Dorian as there is a mention of the noble names adding to the intrigue of their romance. They don't really fit the romances perfectly so I don't really give them much credit.

[BansheeOwnage]

Perhaps, but that wasn't the intention of putting that codex entry into the game.

 

No. The intention of the codex was almost certainly to show that same-sex romance in Thedas is at best, not a problem, and at worst, scandalous for nobles. Again, it says nothing whatsoever of marriage.

 

 

(I still hope it's not Teagan, who actually always struck me as a good guy.)

As someone else said, the devs said it was indeed TEAGAN.

 

It isn't uniquely gay content, as they say the same thing about all the LIs. First, there's an observation that the inquisitor is committed to being single, then a few transparent sexual innuendos ("Has there been an exchange?") voiced by the inimitable Stephane Cornicard, then a comment about how scandalous it all is, and finally a discussion about what to wear to the wedding and how disastrous it would be if the fashions change before they set a date.

 

I'm ashamed to say this, but I stalk them to hear what they're going to say next.

What exactly do you mean? I never heard them talk about that.

[Korva]

As someone else said, the devs said it was indeed TEAGAN.

 

That's rather disappointing. What on Earth happened got up his craw, I wonder. One week till we find out. I guess the anti-Inquisition sentiment will hit harder when it involves a rare noble I actually liked.

[FiveThreeTen]

What exactly do you mean? I never heard them talk about that.

Can't comment on an ongoing romance since my main Inquisitor stays single but I remember them saying "commited to independence I hear" in my case.

I imagine it can also appear if you haven't locked a romance with someone though and getting other gossip after you do.

[berelinde]

No. The intention of the codex was almost certainly to show that same-sex romance in Thedas is at best, not a problem, and at worst, scandalous for nobles. Again, it says nothing whatsoever of marriage.

 

As someone else said, the devs said it was indeed TEAGAN.

 

What exactly do you mean? I never heard them talk about that.

Teagan has been through a lot. First Isolde's well-meaning but misguided attempt to keep Connor out of the Circle, then having to play unwilling ambassador to Orlais and getting called a coward by Gaspard, then getting kicked out of his own arling by some mages only to get grumped at by his constituents when he got back. I don't blame him if he is a bit salty with the Inquisition. Not that any of it is the Inquisitor's fault, exactly, but he hasn't had an easy time of it.

 

As for the gossiping nobles, if you walk by them before you lock in, they will say "Committed bachelor, I hear" or "Committed to independence, I hear," depending on the Inquisitor's gender. Then it changes as the relationship does. At first, they'll remark how scandalous it is, then they'll make those innuendos, and then they're on to laying out their wardrobe for the wedding.

[leaguer of one]

I think they are referring to the gossiping nobles in the main hall of Skyhold, not the Winter Palace.

Wait...what was said to show they were married. A couple obviously but married?

[leaguer of one]

That's rather disappointing. What on Earth happened got up his craw, I wonder. One week till we find out. I guess the anti-Inquisition sentiment will hit harder when it involves a rare noble I actually liked.

He got  O L D.....

[Beren Von Ostwick]

Wait...what was said to show they were married. A couple obviously but married?

 

Oh, I honestly don't recall whether -marriage- was stated.  I was just correcting where the gossiping nobles can be found, that's all.  Sorry about the confusion.

[leaguer of one]

Because people may just simply want to. Just look at Leandra and Malcolm Hawke, who get married simply because they love each other. If Leandra was Leo or Malcolm was Malinda, there is nothing to suggest they would act any different than they did. 

I know that. But how common is that in thedus. Was their marriage in the chantry or did they just say they are married. I just saying look into the context of marriage before saying what is marriage.

[BansheeOwnage]

Can't comment on an ongoing romance since my main Inquisitor stays single but I remember them saying "commited to independence I hear" in my case.

I imagine it can also appear if you haven't locked a romance with someone though and getting other gossip after you do.

As for the gossiping nobles, if you walk by them before you lock in, they will say "Committed bachelor, I hear" or "Committed to independence, I hear," depending on the Inquisitor's gender. Then it changes as the relationship does. At first, they'll remark how scandalous it is, then they'll make those innuendos, and then they're on to laying out their wardrobe for the wedding.

Thanks for the responses people! I've heard the gossip about Cullen on my current playthrough, but somehow I missed the comments about my canon single Inquisitor, twice. Odd, but thanks!

[Kakistos_]

Hmmmm.  If there are nobles in the Winter Palace speculating on a marriage between the Inquisitor and his/her s/s romance, then maybe Gaider changed his mind on the 'anachronistic' argument?  There certainly are marriages among the commoners and we know for sure that there are marriages for love, so it would set a precedent for it.  Funny, I've done that quest twice with s/s romances (once with Adaar/Dorian and once with Cadash/Bull) and never heard that gossip.  I've started a new playthrough that I'm slowly working through with Cadash/Dorian.  I'll have to keep an ear out for it. 

 

I'd have to say that that one line might be enough to make me lean towards the argument that there actually is s/s marriage in Thedas, after all. 

Interesting...I have not heard that dialog in the playthroughs, Lavellan/Solas and male Trevelyan/Dorian.

 

Edit: I didn't hear it with my single Lavallan either. The Winter Palace is hands down my favorite sequence in the entire game and I take my time there everytime. Very odd that I didn't notice this. Where are these nobles located?