Should the Hero of Thedas be an archer?
#1
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 09:49
#3
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 09:56
If you're playing up the Inquisitor angle for your hero sure, sneaky/stealthy/cunning archer works well. If you're playing up the holy champion angle, then an archer does feel kind of off beat.
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#4
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 10:03
#5
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 10:10
I never thought of an archer Inquisitor being like Oliver Queen until you mentioned it, cool comparison! Anyway, I love playing as archers in DAI. They're as heroic as anybody else!
Thanks, but Oliver Queen can't close rifts so the inquisitior has one up on him.
#6
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 10:28
To me, the inquisitor could be seen as someone almost forced into the role, just because they were at the right place at the right time to make a difference. So it doesn't really matter what their skill-set is.
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#7
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 10:31
While I'm a really big on the sword 'n board frontline leader and protector kind of hero myself, there's a lot more to heroism than just how you kill things. Look at Frodo and Sam in LotR. Crappy fighters, but lots of heart, loyalty, courage and will to sacrifice. A hero is made by what s/he does off the battlefield more than on it, and even so -- archery may lack the intense personal risk of frontline combat and the flashy special snowflake status of magic, but of course it can be badass too. Robin Hood, Legolas, Katniss Everdeen. Anyone who says a master archer isn't scary is kidding only themselves. And probably dead with an arrow through the eye two seconds later.
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#8
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 10:32
I see what your saying! You're thrown into a position and you must cope with the skills you have on your own am I right?To me, the inquisitor could be seen as someone almost forced into the role, just because they were at the right place at the right time to make a difference. So it doesn't really matter what their skill-set is.
#9
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 10:36
I see what your saying! You're thrown into a position and you must cope with the skills you have on your own am I right?
Definitely. My current playthrough is a Dalish hunter, who was sent there, but never meant to get as involved as he did. He realises that the fate of the world rests on him, and is trying his best with the skills he has.
#10
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 10:43
If you're playing up the Inquisitor angle for your hero sure, sneaky/stealthy/cunning archer works well. If you're playing up the holy champion angle, then an archer does feel kind of off beat.
That's precisely why I chose to roll an archer/assassin: nothing epitomizes the "chivalrous knight, defender of the widow and the orphan, bringer of justice in a world gone mad" better than a guy who excels at murdering people from a safe distance.
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#12
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 11:18
The hero of Thedas should be whoever you make them to be.
#13
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 11:26
The hero of Thedas should be whoever you make them to be.
^ honestly this should replace the title card on the game packaging at this point.
The hero should be a mage the hero can't be a dwarf the hero should be an elf the hero can't be a rogue the hero can't side with this faction the hero should make this choice the hero should do this the hero should do that, etc, etc, etc. No. Let's just stop telling people what to do with their own game.
The hero is whoever you want it to be.
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#14
Posté 02 septembre 2015 - 11:43
I agree with you 100% this game finds other ways to push you to the right class and race.^ honestly this should replace the title card on the game packaging at this point.
The hero should be a mage the hero can't be a dwarf the hero should be an elf the hero can't be a rogue the hero can't side with this faction the hero should make this choice the hero should do this the hero should do that, etc, etc, etc. No. Let's just stop telling people what to do with their own game.
The hero is whoever you want it to be.
#15
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 01:36
I've had countless friends who have told me that having an archer inquisitior isn't fit for the game. Does having a mighty archer save Thedas not sound cool or does it make the inquisitior weak? To me it makes me feel like my inquisitior is Oliver Queen saving the city in a hood (if you have an item like that.)
Go ahead. Sebastien of Starkhaven once passed on some wisdom of being an archer from his grandfather. If you like working strategy from afar then a bowman is best. There are skills available for fighting up close if you like. I just chose to go back to Assassin because I prefer knives. But the Sabotage and Artificer skill tree offer flexible AoE damage and movement that I find lacking in Mage skills.
I also read online of a great Masterwork combo for Rogues. The fade-touched materials with Berserk are detrimental to melee fighters because they take so much damage. But if you use it on an agile rogue with a fade-touched healing item like snoufler skin it should work out. Ensure your melee fighters have strong guards and enough melee defense. Keep yourself and any mages away from serious harm. When you go Berserk you lay down 10% more damage while you can heal 1% for every hit you make.
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#16
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 02:17
Thanks I'll be sure to remember that.Go ahead. Sebastien of Starkhaven once passed on some wisdom of being an archer from his grandfather. If you like working strategy from afar then a bowman is best. There are skills available for fighting up close if you like. I just chose to go back to Assassin because I prefer knives. But the Sabotage and Artificer skill tree offer flexible AoE damage and movement that I find lacking in Mage skills.
I also read online of a great Masterwork combo for Rogues. The fade-touched materials with Berserk are detrimental to melee fighters because they take so much damage. But if you use it on an agile rogue with a fade-touched healing item like snoufler skin it should work out. Ensure your melee fighters have strong guards and enough melee defense. Keep yourself and any mages away from serious harm. When you go Berserk you lay down 10% more damage while you can heal 1% for every hit you make.
#17
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 10:08
An archer can definitely be a hero character. In addition to the ones already mentioned I would add William Tell and also Bard the Bowman from the Hobbit, provided you go by the book rather than the film. He took down Smaug with one shot from his long bow. I seem to recall that Nathaniel in Awakening was also an archer and he always seemed pretty badass to me. Archers are anything but weak; have you ever tried drawing a real longbow?
On the practical side I have really enjoyed playing my elven archer. I took the assassin specialisation which worked out really well and meant I could always revert to daggers at some stage if I wanted to. However, I found the dual wield rogue a bit clunky in DAI and nothing like so much fun as they were in DAO and DA2, which is why I have stuck with the archer instead. The number of enemies I have been able to take down with just one shot by going into stealth mode and then creeping up on them and using full draw is very satisfying.
A hero gets the job done and that is what earns the admiration of the masses; not how they do it. There is no real reason why a holy champion has to be a close range warrior, although most of my Inquisitors have tended to try and down play that side of their reputation.
#18
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 12:32
#19
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 12:41
I don't think it matters.
#20
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 02:11
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#21
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 02:20
Given that the Herald is just whichever random Johnny happened stumble upon Coryfish and accidentally get the mark, I see no reason why they could not be of any class or spec. Hell, the Inquisition is lucky they got someone competent at all. Imagine if a fishmonger got the mark and had to lead.
Yeah, Thedas is very lucky it wasn't a Chantry mother who came to check in on the Divine. Or a mage who specialized in non-combat magic. Or a paper-pushing negotiator.
#22
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 03:00
My Qunari Inquisitor is an Archer, I was going for a Ra's Al Ghul type of character (Mix of Batman Begins and Arrow) but more about ambition than justice. Pretty much all about Ra's's theatricality deception and way of the ninja but with a more ranged focus.
Sure he isn't an Archer but the principles can still apply. Heck, his successor in arrow was Malcolm who was an Archer.
As for the closing rifts thing? Well they don't call (Malcolm) Merlyn the magician for nothing, Magic is his forte =P
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#23
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 03:32
An archer would work as a commander Inquisitor who stays out of the fight in order to have a good view of the battlefield and thus be able to effectively deploy his/her troops to the right areas at the right time.
#24
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 04:18
If an Archer looks "weak" i hope they remove the Dwarf race, a dwarf don't intimidate.
#25
Posté 03 septembre 2015 - 04:22
Yeah, Thedas is very lucky it wasn't a Chantry mother who came to check in on the Divine. Or a mage who specialized in non-combat magic. Or a paper-pushing negotiator.
Inquisitor Asignon to the rescue!
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If an Archer looks "weak" i hope they remove the Dwarf race, a dwarf don't intimidate.

Nope, not intimidating at all...
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