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[Ghost Gal]

I felt the same about the dwarf noble becoming king of Orzammar at first, but at the same time, the shapers consider you casteless the moment you step foot on the surface, so I can understand, even if I morally disagree with the caste system.

 

If they can strip your caste, then they can give it back. Especially if you're able to prove that the foundation of your caste stripping (killing your older brother) was based on a lie.

 

I definately played the Human Noble the most, it's my favorite. You, arguably, get to have the most involvement in the world, and getting vengeance on Howe is good personal story, as well.

 

The City Elf has that too. You were born and raised in Denerim, which is where Eamon calls the Landsmeet. You can also get vengeance on Howe for slaughtering your people with a purge (so the entire "Rescue the Queen" quest has personal significance, especially since the City Elf is breaking into and slaughtering your way through the same castle as the beginning of the game), have personal significance to the entire "Unrest in the Alienage" quest (since the alienage is your home and some of the elves sold are your family), and you have the added personal significance of wanting to see Loghain deposed in the Landsmeet since he personally greenlit selling elves into slavery.

 

I actually think the City Elf trumps the Human Noble in terms of their so-called "most involvement in the world." The only significance the humans gets comes at the very end of the game, during the Landsmeet, and that's only insofar as Howe's concerned (and getting crowned). The City Elf has significance with the city itself, the entire "Rescue the Queen" questline, the entire "Unrest in the Alienage" questline, and the personal grudge/revenge against Loghain during the Landsmeet.

 

Then again, even I don't really believe that since other characters have significant "involvement in the world" too: the mages against Uldred and the Broken Circle quest and Redclife mage-related quest content; the Dalish with the Dalish/Werewolf questline and the Eluvians (in the long run of the games), and the Dwarves with Orzammar (the largest quest chain in the game). Dwarf Noble has reason to crown Bhelen since he's going to marry their sister and increase casteless rights, and the Dwarf Noble for either crowning Harrowmont to spite Bhelen or overcoming their grudge to crown Bhelen anyway. (Which I still say is bullshit.) 

 

I keep seeing human noble fans claim that their personal involvement in the story is the "most important," which I think is pure arrogance. They're not that involved with the overall story--no more so than any other origin--and what little they do have comes at the same section of the game where the city elf is involved, and the city elf gets more content and personal significance to what's going on in that section.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Dwarf's also have that. And they are intrinsically linked to the fate of the crown there. The Dwarf Noble has just cause to turn against Bhelen (or try to keep the crown in the family,) but may have some additional drama if a male noble had a son with Mardy and now is asked to restore his casteless son his rights and give him a house. A casteless dwarf's own sister is Bhelen's consort and nephew is the heir to Aeducan now. Add in how Casteless are treated and how Harrowmont actually supports the brutality as it is tradition.

The whole Orzammar segment is much better if you play as a dwarf if only for the extra drama going either way.

I just hated how little dialog there is between you and Leske when you return to Orzammar. It's just "Oh, look. Leske is here with Jarvia." It would've been nice to have a little bit of anger or drama there.

[dragonflight288]

I just hated how little dialog there is between you and Leske when you return to Orzammar. It's just "Oh, look. Leske is here with Jarvia." It would've been nice to have a little bit of anger or drama there.

 

It would've. Although it is nice being able to talk to your mother inside the palace itself, and she is still complaining about everything. It's hilariously sad how she's asking for handouts from the Casteless Warden while living in a palace. 

[Barquiel]

Female city elf was my first character (because of tha concept art pic^^), and it's still my favorite origin. There's nothing more satisfying than slaughtering those nobles...and it also lends a rags-to-riches quality to your overall story.

[GoldenGail3]

 
Then again, even I don't really believe that since other characters have significant "involvement in the world" too: the mages against Uldred and the Broken Circle quest and Redclife mage-related quest content; the Dalish with the Dalish/Werewolf questline and the Eluvians (in the long run of the games), and the Dwarves with Orzammar (the largest quest chain in the game). Dwarf Commoner has reason to crown Bhelen since he's going to marry their sister and increase casteless rights, and the Dwarf Noble for either crowning Harrowmont to spite Bhelen or overcoming their grudge to crown Bhelen anyway. (Which I still say is bullshit.) 

I like City Elf... But seriously; I would've been over joyed if there was a Human Commoner PC. Would've been baft...

[Inkvisiittori]

Mage (Surana). It's the only origin where you have no family and no one knows who you are or where you are from. I like to be the mysterious stranger because then I can decide myself what my characters backround is. Inquisition also did this very well (at least with Lavellan, haven't played the other races). I liked the idea of different playable origins, but the problem with most of them was that I didn't like that it almost always contained some kind of family drama. Like it would've been better if I had just been a random city elf attending the wedding of someone else. Then the game could give me options to tell who I am, like it did with Surana ("I'm from Denerim Alienage/Lothering/I don't remember/Mind your own business"). 

[Apo]

Dalish elf and it's funny because that was the origin that I disliked the most when I discovered the game and it was due mostly because I didn't talk with the members of the clan and just did the quests so I found it boring.

 

But through time and replaying it, I began to talk to all the clan, even those who simply react with the same line when you talk to them, and of course later in Awakening with Velanna and in Witch Hunt with the Eluvian plot and Ariane.

I'll add that in many occasion during Awakening and Witch Hunt, the Dalish warden can express his attachment to his culture and being proud of it, this kind of stuff.

[vertigomez]

I just hated how little dialog there is between you and Leske when you return to Orzammar. It's just "Oh, look. Leske is here with Jarvia." It would've been nice to have a little bit of anger or drama there.

I dunno, I never got that vibe? You can get pretty pissed off (well, as pissed off as the Warden is allowed to get, anyway), and angrily declare that you never would have betrayed him if you were in his shoes. I thought that whole conversation was pretty emotional, because you can feel the bitterness and resentment and what-could-have been practically sloughing off Bloom's performance...

[straykat]

Mage (Surana). It's the only origin where you have no family and no one knows who you are or where you are from. I like to be the mysterious stranger because then I can decide myself what my characters backround is. Inquisition also did this very well (at least with Lavellan, haven't played the other races). I liked the idea of different playable origins, but the problem with most of them was that I didn't like that it almost always contained some kind of family drama. Like it would've been better if I had just been a random city elf attending the wedding of someone else. Then the game could give me options to tell who I am, like it did with Surana ("I'm from Denerim Alienage/Lothering/I don't remember/Mind your own business"). 

 

I'm the opposite (no offense.. just my 2c). I want games to be a form of literature, so to speak.. where I and the authors meet halfway. Not a sandbox, like Bethesda games. That's why I thought Bioware was better than Bethesda all of these years, generally speaking. Now the lines are getting blurred and Bioware has convinced themselves that being like Bethesda is cooler. It's OK that Surana is just one origin, but DAI is a whole game. And even then, at least Surana had the Ostagar setup like all origins did. That's the second prologue, besides the origin. DAI can't even manage that much. I want a story for the protagonist. Not be some generic "hero vessel" who wakes up in prison or has amnesia..or worse, both! And then starts meddling their way into everyone's lives/beliefs/wars/etc.. Which, I admit, works a little more in Beth games because you can play a psychopath. lol. Not so much in DA.

 

Anyways... City Elf. And I like to be part of the wedding. There's still many ways to roleplay it. Like I said, meeting halfway. I can think of dozens of branching pathways in it and varying motivations. It might not be totally open, but it's there.

[Lezio]

I really like the mage origin, mostly because it's basically the only one where the warden doesn't suffer some kind of trauma.

 

I mean, the worst things that happened to my Warden, prior to the Jowan thing, was being taken from his mother at a young age and a minor accident in an alchemy lession which left his hair milky white. Maybe some occational minor templar abuse but, seriously, compared to most of party members of Origins? He's basically the greenkid at the beginning of Origins (Morrigan being raised by Flemeth['nough said], Leliana and her bard past, Oghren the disgraced, Wynne having to give up her child, Zevran "horrible life" Arainai, Shale..... well just look at her. Probably the only ones who got it easy are Alistair [the mage origin has also a nice parallel with Alistair's story, two kids, one a really pro-mage mage and the other a kindablasphemous templar, who have to suddently grow up and become Grey Wardens] and Sten, cuz, even if he is the less "qunari" qunari there is, he is qunari)

[Paragon Aeducan]

My favorite will always be the dwarf noble. I'll never forget Orzammar, the stone city carved deep into the very earth, standing over a sea of lava. And the Deep Roads, the enormous tunnels that span to every corner of Thedas, memories of a lost kingdom. The statues of the Paragons, the everlasting battle with the Darkspawn, everything, it's all so fascinating!