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This always bugged me about ending of Mass effect 3 how is that commander is different clothing when he is aboard the citadel, I mean Mean you an out fit on him/her wouldnt the outfit be on him/her there 2. I am thinking that it shepard's clone that does all dirty work. I mean u dont really id it reall dies it just fall off



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I think it's mostly because it would be a lot of work to make a damaged version of every armour piece. So they made one version, probably based on the N7 armour, and called it a day. It's funny because my Shepard didn't even have the red stripe on her shoulder and after getting hit by Harbinger's beam, it suddenly appeared on the damaged armour.

 

I still don't know how Shepard survived the blast and most of her armour, including the helmet, did not, but that's a completely different issue...



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yeah true but to it looks the shepard has the defult outfit which what the clone wore right B4 u kill him yah I spose I just find funny shepard is were excatly what Clone is wear asuming u id citadel DLC B4 u dod final battle is all and also not just that makes if listen to message after at 100% BAs shepards voice says I did him/her so he/she could live on males me wonder if clone didnt do it or it smiply shepard refering to thier sinficant other



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I always think of it as Shepard's armour is completely disintegrated and we're left with what he/she was wearing underneath :)

 

Where they got the pistol from, is another matter!



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Where they got the pistol from, is another matter!

 

It was hidden in Shepard's secret compartment.



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What I don't like about that is Shepard's armor peices are blown off his/her body but yet the other bodies seen in the area have their armor still on.



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I always think of it as Shepard's armour is completely disintegrated and we're left with what he/she was wearing underneath :)

Where they got the pistol from, is another matter!

 

Hmm, but if something is strong enough to melt off armour, I don't think human flesh is likely to survive it. In many cases, Shepard's head is completely exposed to the blast.

 

Yeah, the gun bothers me a lot, too. As much as I love the Carnifex, I didn't even have one on me at that point. Yet there it is, lying conveniently next to Shepard's hand. My favourite rifle gone. Well, could be worse... could be the Predator instead.

 

What I don't like about that is Shepard's armor peices are blown off his/her body but yet the other bodies seen in the area have their armor still on.

 
Also a good point.



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It was hidden in Shepard's secret compartment.

Ewwwwww.



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Hmm, but if something is strong enough to melt off armour, I don't think human flesh is likely to survive it. In many cases, Shepard's head is completely exposed to the blast.
 
Yeah, the gun bothers me a lot, too. As much as I love the Carnifex, I didn't even have one on me at that point. Yet there it is, lying conveniently next to Shepard's hand. My favourite rifle gone. Well, could be worse... could be the Predator instead.
 
 
Also a good point.


The gun didn't bother me. I always thought some other soldier running to the beam could have dropped it. I have the Carnifex for London many times anyway. For the armor, I don't blame the devs because it must be a lot of work to have the worn versions of every armor pieces and also color choices. So we know that it's her default armor, so it doesn't bother me either.
I also found out with a good gaming mouse the Marauder wasn't that hard really. It becomes as easy as the rest of the game.(I was dying there a lot before.) So having Carnifex instead of the gun I was using stopped being a problem.
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Reminded me of this scene in Schlock Mercenary: http://www.schlockme....com/2011-07-10


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Doesn't the pistol lie on the ground when Shep wakes up? I seem to remember that s/he snatches it up as s/he regains consciousness. Must have fallen off one of the other soldiers as they tried to make it to the beam and were attacked by Harby (possibly after Shep passed out).

 

As for the suit, yea, it's weird but I always imagined that pretty much all the armors have the same basic structure and just the outer layer plating is different. I think it works for most of them.



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The gun didn't bother me. I always thought some other soldier running to the beam could have dropped it. I have the Carnifex for London many times anyway. For the armor, I don't blame the devs because it must be a lot of work to have the worn versions of every armor pieces and also color choices. So we know that it's her default armor, so it doesn't bother me either.
I also found out with a good gaming mouse the Marauder wasn't that hard really. It becomes as easy as the rest of the game.(I was dying there a lot before.) So having Carnifex instead of the gun I was using stopped being a problem.

 

I actually had the Suppressor with me originally, so Carnifex was quite a downgrade both in fire power and fire rate. I still love that gun, though. I've never had trouble with the marauder myself, BUT I have only played on Normal so far, so it's no wonder.

 

I agree that somebody dropping the gun there is the most likely explanation. It's better than "BioWare just put it there because it's convenient." (Which probably happened, BUT ANYWAY.)

 

I agree with you as regards the armour. I think it would be a waste of time, even. Although I admit the red stripe on the shoulder could've gone because that's one of the pieces that make it too recognisable. That's, however, just a minor thing that's easily overlooked... and it can be fixed with a custom texture. Might look into it sometimes.

 

I'm more worried about some other parts, like Shepard surviving the blast when the armour doesn't. I do want Shepard to live, but surviving a Reaper beam is pretty hardcore even for her.  :lol: But who knows. Perhaps the ME2 cybernetic upgrades are just THAT good.


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The pistol is next to Shepard when he/she gets up after being shot by Harbinger

 

I like how TIM has to reach in Anderson's backside for a pistol

 

When Shepard goes up the platform to see the thing, the pistol isn't seen at all, but Shepard has it in his/her right hand to go choose an ending after talking with the catalyst


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I actually had the Suppressor with me originally, so Carnifex was quite a downgrade both in fire power and fire rate. I still love that gun, though. I've never had trouble with the marauder myself, BUT I have only played on Normal so far, so it's no wonder.
 
I agree that somebody dropping the gun there is the most likely explanation. It's better than "BioWare just put it there because it's convenient." (Which probably happened, BUT ANYWAY.)
 
I agree with you as regards the armour. I think it would be a waste of time, even. Although I admit the red stripe on the shoulder could've gone because that's one of the pieces that make it too recognisable. That's, however, just a minor thing that's easily overlooked... and it can be fixed with a custom texture. Might look into it sometimes.
 
I'm more worried about some other parts, like Shepard surviving the blast when the armour doesn't. I do want Shepard to live, but surviving a Reaper beam is pretty hardcore even for her.  :lol: But who knows. Perhaps the ME2 cybernetic upgrades are just THAT good.


I always play on Insanity. On my first run, I don't how many times I died trying to kill the Marauder. It was an embarrassment for me :)
You're right about surviving the blast; especially when you think that Harbinger specifically aimed for her/him :)
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You're right about surviving the blast; especially when you think that Harbinger specifically aimed for her/him :)

 

Maybe Harby didn't want to kill Shep, well, maybe kill, yes, but not evaporate by a direct hit. Maybe he fired at low power at the ground in front of Shep so that the body stays intact and they can still harvest his/her DNA. I bet the three stooges were just sent to pick Shep up:

 

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I always play on Insanity. On my first run, I don't how many times I died trying to kill the Marauder. It was an embarrassment for me :)
You're right about surviving the blast; especially when you think that Harbinger specifically aimed for her/him :)

 

When I first started playing I found even the husks impossible. I would need about four or five attempts to get past the husks and then died to the Marauder. It was so frustrating!

 

Since I learned that you can use voice commands on the Kinnect to activate your powers it's been quite fun. Every run-through I get to use different powers on them :)


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When I first started playing I found even the husks impossible. I would need about four or five attempts to get past the husks and then died to the Marauder. It was so frustrating!

 

It's a worthy end boss :D

I also died there...repeatedly. Looking really forward to my current run, let's see how many times it's gonna be -_-



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When dealing with Marauder the first time on insanity, I was killed a number of times. What makes it easy now is I stop moving forward and fire at its head. 3 shots and its dead. If you can't shoot the head keep firing at its body. As long as the thing is being hit, it won't fire back



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I think that actually Shepard and the clone changed places during the fight in Normandy's hangar bay, you know, when we did not look because the narrator cut to Joker and Steve? After that, we actually play the clone posing for Shepard. Shepard landed safely on the citadel using a secret Ikarus landing system. The real Shepard wanted to spend some time alone (it's a burn out case).

The real Shepard successfully evades the reapers when they take over the citadel and travels down the beam to London to help the Hammer forces, unfortunately without armor and with only a Carnifex gun. The clone we play actually gets killed by Harbinger, but the real Shepard does not, and when Harbinger hits the clone, the game secretly switches control back to the real Shepard. 

 

It's just funny how BioWare overestimated their players who just don't get it.


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I think that actually Shepard and the clone changed places during the fight in Normandy's hangar bay, you know, when we did not look because the narrator cut to Joker and Steve? After that, we actually play the clone posing for Shepard.

 

You can try but the Renegade scars won't lie :D



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You can try but the Renegade scars won't lie :D

Oh my, I just never played a ME:3 Shepard with Renegade scars. The clone does not have those? What is it thinking what others will think about that?!

Well, clone Shepard got that covered, of course, and got a miniature version of the scar healing med bay quantum wave refraction doggle in his/her omnitool, but of course with reversed polarization so that it replicates scars. If we can heal scars by pressing a button, we can create scars by pressing a button, right? (Ugh, possible plot hole.)

 

Or maybe the clone did that in the med bay before takeoff, and hid them with makeup because it is hideous?

 

Excuse me while I think about the possible love scene and if clones in the ME universe come with navals?

 

I'm sure there is extensively researched fan fiction to be found where Shepard makes out with the clone, no? I'll have to look that up...



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Oh my, I just never played a ME:3 Shepard with Renegade scars. The clone does not have those? What is it thinking what others will think about that?!

Well, clone Shepard got that covered, of course, and got a miniature version of the scar healing med bay quantum wave refraction doggle in his/her omnitool, but of course with reversed polarization so that it replicates scars. If we can heal scars by pressing a button, we can create scars by pressing a button, right? (Ugh, possible plot hole.)

 

Or maybe the clone did that in the med bay before takeoff, and hid them with makeup because it is hideous?

 

Excuse me while I think about the possible love scene and if clones in the ME universe come with navals?

 

The clone is as pretty as a Paragon Shepard :) They could make ads for pure skin. Haha, jokes aside, the clone really doesn't have the scars. I've also only discovered that last week :D Pretty funny because then everyone knows immediately who's the real Shepard, ha! Clone had all the plans, but not anticipated that!

 

I'm sure there is extensively researched fan fiction to be found where Shepard makes out with the clone, no? I'll have to look that up...

 

:huh:

Anything is possible within the internet! But this is not something I'd want to research :P



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If the clone was in the game when released, I might believe that some how it was the clone talking with the catalyst


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This would of course also explain why Shepard can then wake up in the rubble which has to be London because there is concrete and rebar to be seen. I sense a Clone theory. IT 2.0 anyone? ;)

 

But what if the clone actually was never on the citadel either and got indoctrinated?!? :o



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I think clone in game regardless I just what I though cuase 1 clone has defult shepard armor on if put any other armour on and it couldve fallen into to keeper vats