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[Thrombin]

Hmm, but if something is strong enough to melt off armour, I don't think human flesh is likely to survive it. In many cases, Shepard's head is completely exposed to the blast.

 

It won't have been a direct hit, so Shepard was presumably on the outer edge of the concussion energy thrown up by the beam's impact nearby. Shepard's head could have been outside the blast radius while the rest of the body just caught the vestiges of it.

 

I like to think that the force of the blast stripped away the ablative coating and armour plating leaving the underlayer beneath. So the armour (and shields) absorbed all the energy of the blast, getting destroyed in the process, but just managing to stop it from penetrating any further.

 

It's a bit of a stretch but not too bad.

[Vanilka]

It won't have been a direct hit, so Shepard was presumably on the outer edge of the concussion energy thrown up by the beam's impact nearby. Shepard's head could have been outside the blast radius while the rest of the body just caught the vestiges of it.

 

I like to think that the force of the blast stripped away the ablative coating and armour plating leaving the underlayer beneath. So the armour (and shields) absorbed all the energy of the blast, getting destroyed in the process, but just managing to stop it from penetrating any further.

 

It's a bit of a stretch but not too bad.

 

I admit I don't have much faith in it since we're talking about a Reaper beam, don't know what exactly happened, it's a very specific kind of damage (e.g. the gloves came off completely, ouch), and it works for nobody else, including the companions on low EMS. Funnily enough, the dead guys' armours are completely intact. But that wouldn't be the first time Shepard survived something downright deadly anyway.

 

Either way, I do think it's a solid theory. Definitely better than everything else that I've read so far.

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It won't have been a direct hit, so Shepard was presumably on the outer edge of the concussion energy thrown up by the beam's impact nearby. Shepard's head could have been outside the blast radius while the rest of the body just caught the vestiges of it.

 

I like to think that the force of the blast stripped away the ablative coating and armour plating leaving the underlayer beneath. So the armour (and shields) absorbed all the energy of the blast, getting destroyed in the process, but just managing to stop it from penetrating any further.

 

It's a bit of a stretch but not too bad.

 

I've actually thought the same. We see what Reaper beams do to shuttles in the scene where the boy boards one of them, so if they had hit Shepard in such a way... uh. I guess that would've been the ending

I also see it as a big stretch, but at least it would make sense, not Shepard magically surviving being directly hit.

[themikefest]

I like to think that the force of the blast stripped away the ablative coating and armour plating leaving the underlayer beneath. So the armour (and shields) absorbed all the energy of the blast, getting destroyed in the process, but just managing to stop it from penetrating any further.

How would you explain Shepard being the only one to have his/her armor pieces blown off and not the other bodies in the same area?

 

During the beam run Shepard can get a direct hit from Harbinger and suffer nothing, but yet other soldiers are vaporized. I guess Shepard was wearing his/her reaper laser beam repellent at that time and it wore off at the wrong time for Harbinger to finally injure Shepard

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How would you explain Shepard being the only one to have his/her armor pieces blown off and not the other bodies in the same area?

 

During the beam run Shepard can get a direct hit from Harbinger and suffer nothing, but yet other soldiers are vaporized. I guess Shepard was wearing his/her reaper laser beam repellent at that time and it wore off at the wrong time for Harbinger to finally injure Shepard

 

Psht, Mike, we're trying to make sense of it

[Vanilka]

How would you explain Shepard being the only one to have his/her armor pieces blown off and not the other bodies in the same area?

 

During the beam run Shepard can get a direct hit from Harbinger and suffer nothing, but yet other soldiers are vaporized. I guess Shepard was wearing his/her reaper laser beam repellent at that time and it wore off at the wrong time for Harbinger to finally injure Shepard

 

Unofficial explanation would most likely be that nobody thought of it, they didn't have time, or they didn't care. Official one? Beats me.

 

Ahh, stupid things, having to be reapplied every two hours. 

[themikefest]

Psht, Mike, we're trying to make sense of it

Yeah. I just find the beam run a joke.

 

I would've thrown Anderson's plan in the garbage and just sneak a small team past the destroyer to get to the beam.

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I have to admit I loved the beam run, it was such a rush running towards it. But that's purely considering my emotional state. Other than that it really could've been better. Much better.

[themikefest]

I have to admit I loved the beam run, it was such a rush running towards it. But that's purely considering my emotional state. Other than that it really could've been better. Much better.

If interested, I created a thread explaining how I would've done Priority Earth.

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If interested, I created a thread explaining how I would've done Priority Earth.

 

I know of it actually, but it can't hurt to read it again, it's been so long

[darthrevanstar]

Idc wat wats sense whats not Im just trying tio stae myopion  lol Imean there several weird things in in ending the endings that dont make sense but I get feeling it isnt lol

I just thought the clone idea for my fan fics  

[Vanilka]

I think the clone would be a hilarious plot twist in a fanfic. I mean, it's no more crazy than many other things that happen in the ending anyway.   Bonus points for having Shepard just shrug and go with it because crazier stuff's going on anyway.

[Thrombin]

How would you explain Shepard being the only one to have his/her armor pieces blown off and not the other bodies in the same area?

 

During the beam run Shepard can get a direct hit from Harbinger and suffer nothing, but yet other soldiers are vaporized. I guess Shepard was wearing his/her reaper laser beam repellent at that time and it wore off at the wrong time for Harbinger to finally injure Shepard

 

Obviously I'm just trying to rationalize it any way possible so it's not going to be perfect but, the way I see it, any force, no matter how powerful gets less effective the further you are away from it. At some distance it will have no effect at all (otherwise the entire planet would have disintegrated!).

 

So the bodies who have armour intact were further away than Shepard and bodies that were closer than Shepard or that had less effective armour than Shepard were completely incinerated.

 

Shepard was lucky enough to be far enough away to survive but not far enough away for the armour to survive

[themikefest]

So the bodies who have armour intact were further away than Shepard and bodies that were closer than Shepard or that had less effective armour than Shepard were completely incinerated.

The way the beam heads towards Shepard, the bodies that are seen in front of Shepard after he/she gets up should be vaporized, but they aren't

[darthrevanstar]

and two clone theroy I cam is fact that child none else and the bizare dreams shepard has 2 I just thought fun to say my shepard islying uncocious and clone happens to wake up at that point

[Thrombin]

The way the beam heads towards Shepard, the bodies that are seen in front of Shepard after he/she gets up should be vaporized, but they aren't

 

Maybe they are. Maybe the other bodies we see were thrown into the field from another explosion that happens while Sheapard is still stunned 

[themikefest]

Maybe they are. Maybe the other bodies we see were thrown into the field from another explosion that happens while Sheapard is still stunned 

Here's a video with James and Liara dead. Both have their armor still on their bodies and not vaporized

[nos_astra]

Ewwwwww.

Also called hammer space!
;-D

[Thrombin]

Here's a video with James and Liara dead. Both have their armor still on their bodies and not vaporized

 

Wow, I never knew your squadmates could die in the beam run. I thought they just get put back aboard the Normandy when that truck blows up. 

 

Actually, I always found that a bit odd. Seems a bit defeatist to just turn round and run away while every one else is risking everything just to get someone in the beam. They were in a lot better shape than Shepard ended up being and Shepard still went on!

 

That youtube still fits my theory though. I seem to remember the other squadmates were behind Shepard during the run which suggests they were further away from the beam than Shepard was when it hit but ended up ahead of her because they were catapulted by the force of some other explosion behind them (e.g. the beam continued on and hit a truck behind them which then exploded and the force of that explosion killed them and threw them ahead of Shepard )

 

Alternatively, if they weren't behind Shepard when she was running, they could actually have been much further ahead of her as the video suggests, and so took less of the blast than she did as the impact was nearer Shepard than them. However, they aren't as tough or as lucky as Shepard so they got killed by shrapnel or broke their necks on landing or whatever while Shepard survived.

 

Sorted

[themikefest]

Wow, I never knew your squadmates could die in the beam run. I thought they just get put back aboard the Normandy when that truck blows up.

Both squadmates will always die on the beam run if ems is low enough. The video I posted does not include the extended cut. With the extended cut both squadmates are vaporized and it happens about 50 feet behind Shepard.

Spoiler

 

That youtube still fits my theory though. I seem to remember the other squadmates were behind Shepard during the run which suggests they were further away from the beam than Shepard was when it hit but ended up ahead of her because they were catapulted by the force of some other explosion behind them (e.g. the beam continued on and hit a truck behind them which then exploded and the force of that explosion killed them and threw them ahead of Shepard )

Before the extended cut was released, the beam was directly in front of Shepard and didn't come from the right like its seen with the extended cut. I would say it knocked him/her back to where the squadmates are seen dead.

 

Here's Shepard getting hit by the beam before the extended cut

 

Here's Shepard getting hit by the beam with the extended cut

 

[Thrombin]

Thanks for the videos!

 

My first run was before the extended cut came out but I still had enough EMS to avoid any squad deaths (I did all the quests and I used the ipad App to boost my Galactic Readiness to 100%)

 

My second run wasn't enough for a non-import Shepard to survive the Destroy ending but it still was enough to avoid any deaths from the beam.

 

After that, with all the extra DLC. I was always well over the EMS needed even without using the App (or MP for that matter - I'm not a lover of MP in any game). I do have one fail Shepard run-through from ME2 that I haven't tried in ME3 yet. I shall probably use that one to see what really low EMS looks like!