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#351
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The hand in a jar is a joke based on what that dude in the Emporium says about wanting your hand when you're finished with it, not an actual spoiler.

oooooohhh ok thank god. i'm way more okay with solas having it but if it's just up for sale that would just be like .... um no bioware. just no. 



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yeah it was a cruel joke



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I just always assumed it's because this thread moves so fast, that people get ignored.

*crawls into pillow fort with solas body pillow and tons of wine*

Bring on the pain bioware! Woo!

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I'm not going to download the DLC until mods work with it so I will be ready to hear everyone's playthroughs on Tuesday when I get home from work!  I don't know how I'm going to get things done because I'll be worried about what happens to Solas and Lavellan the whole day, like a dork :P



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I've been wondering how drinking from the well or not might come into play.

I really hope it isn't a bunch of untranslatable codex entries like in Mythal's Temple. Especially if there are Fen'Harel bits in them.

Then there's the fact that the well would let us still walk in the fade. If we do lose our hand, that might be useful.

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I've been wondering how drinking from the well or not might come into play.

I really hope it isn't a bunch of untranslatable codex entries like in Mythal's Temple. Especially if there are Fen'Harel bits in them.

Then there's the fact that the well would let us still walk in the fade. If we do lose our hand, that might be useful.

 

I've been thinking about this too. I think it might, though I'm not sure how it'll play a part. And I'm also hoping it'll be more than just translating codex entries. (It has to play a bigger part than that!)

 

My Lavellan didn't drink from the Well though, and since it seems most Lavellans (that I know of anyway) drank from the Well I'd love to see if not drinking it gives a different outcome in this DLC.

 

BTW, I don't remember them saying that the Well lets us still walk the Fade. I thought you'll just hear voices?  :huh:



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Calpernia says that it will allow Corypheus to do so. (Or she'll lead him as the vessel like our hand somehow let the others come with us?) Granted that's probably with extra magic thrown in. That line jumped out at me while replaying tonight.

......unless she just meant via the eluvians. That would still be helpful minus a rift hand though. xD Especially if that's how Solas will continue to get around.

So we can stalk him and never let him leave.

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Calpernia says that it will allow Corypheus to do so. (Or she'll lead him as the vessel like our hand somehow let the others come with us?) Granted that's probably with extra magic thrown in. That line jumped out at me while replaying tonight.

......unless she just meant via the eluvians. That would still be helpful minus a rift hand though. xD

the well of sorrows was just the "key" to the one eluvian in the temple of mythal, not all of them or the fade itself

 

(basically the "vessel" would be the one who drank from the well and it would be only that person who could open the eluvian) 

 

hope i cleared things up :)



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the well of sorrows was just the "key" to the one eluvian in the temple of mythal, not all of them or the fade itself

(basically the "vessel" would be the one who drank from the well and it would be only that person who could open the eluvian)

hope i cleared things up :)


That's one thing I never understood. Morrigan says all she has pretty much needed was knowledge and power to open others. And Corypheus doesn't have either? He loses one eluvian and just says to hell with it? Like Morrigan locking Mythal's eluvian even if she doesn't drink.

This'll make my head hurt if I think about it too much.

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That's one thing I never understood. Morrigan says all she has pretty much needed was knowledge and power to open others. And Corypheus doesn't have either? He loses one eluvian and just says to hell with it? Like Morrigan locking Mythal's eluvian even if she doesn't drink.

This'll make my head hurt if I think about it too much.

Okay so lemme explain Eluvians. I know that in the game, you just jump through and end up in Skyhold but that's not really how it works. What happens is, between each eluvian is a path similar to the Crossroads, as it is half the fade and half physical, which you must walk through to reach the next eluvian that leads to wherever you want to go. 

 

Corypheus wanted to enter this "inbetween place" similar to the crossroads by entering through the temple of mythal eluvian. He wanted to then use an immense amount of magic to break down the weak boundaries of the fade in this place to fully enter the fade itself. From there he would have gone to the black city and made himself a god. 

 

Morrigan wanted the well for its potential secrets/knowledge. 

 

Also, I think once an eluvian is unlcocked it can be used freely, as long as it doesn't require a password like the ones in The Masked Empire. 

 

(also, Eluvians are extremely rare and I believe most require a passcodes as shown in The Masked Empire. I believe the one in the temple of mythal was one of the few that only needs a key and conveniently had the key still intact and up for the taking) 



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Okay so lemme explain Eluvians. I know that in the game, you just jump through and end up in Skyhold but that's not really how it works. What happens is, between each eluvian is a path similar to the Crossroads, as it is half the fade and half physical, which you must walk through to reach the next eluvian that leads to wherever you want to go.

Corypheus wanted to enter this "inbetween place" similar to the crossroads by entering through the temple of mythal eluvian. He wanted to then use an immense amount of magic to break down the weak boundaries of the fade in this place to fully enter the fade itself. From there he would have gone to the black city and made himself a god.

Morrigan wanted the well for its potential secrets/knowledge.

Also, I think once an eluvian is unlcocked it can be used freely, as long as it doesn't require a password like the ones in The Masked Empire.


lol Thank you. I know the first part though even if the game throws me off a bit at that scene. You see them all hurry through and then they leap and stagger out into Skyhold like it was an instant thing.

Since they had to traverse the in between first, why are they still running? xD If they thought Corypheus was behind them, shouldn't they have tried to fight him in the inbetween since that's where he wanted to be to begin with?

I think about these things far too deeply.

I know it was likely dramatic effect but still....I really need to get to reading that book.

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lol Thank you. I know the first part though even if the game throws me off a bit at that scene. You see them all hurry through and then they leap and stagger out into Skyhold like it was an instant thing.

Since they had to traverse the in between first, why are they still running? xD If they thought Corypheus was behind them, shouldn't they have tried to fight him in the inbetween since that's where he wanted to be to begin with?

I think about these things far too deeply.

I know it was likely dramatic effect but still....I really need to get to reading that book.

The whole concept of eluvians is really kinda vague unless you read TME. I learned soooo much. I think it's going to be a really important read in terms of being able to understand the logic of Trespasser's events. 

 

Something else about eluvians is that whatever things that are in the "in-between" places are not always friendly. That could be why they were running, but I think it was mostly for dramatic effect. 

 

Aah so much lore ... my head is starting to hurt lol



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I'll have to do that tomorrow night and while I wait for the download to finish Tuesday. That's me, always waiting till the last minute.

Didn't know that about the in between. Won't make that scene any less giggle worthy though. Solas and his undignified leap. So graceful.

Not much longer now.

If he has to walk away and leave can I at least have the option of saying 'Ar lath, ma vhenan.' like he did? So I can watch his face crumble like my heart will. *sigh*

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If he has to walk away and leave can I at least have the option of saying 'Ar lath, ma vhenan.' like he did? So I can watch his face crumble like my heart will. *sigh*

I just want to see Solas super emotional for once. He's always been so kept together that seeing him crumble would be extremely touching. 

 

Then he could cry in my Lavellan's arms like "I'M SUCH AN A**HOLE RTRYTRGFAER" and then she'd be like "yes, yes you are." 

 

Really though, if we can't end up with him, I hope that he will at least show us some honest emotion for once. 

 

I'm hoping for him to be like: 

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He deserves it for all the misery he's caused us  :angry: Solas deserves to feel our pain!!!  :devil:  :devil:



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He deserves it for all the misery he's caused us  :angry: Solas deserves to feel our pain!!!  :devil:  :devil:

Hm, I don't know, I think he's already hurting a lot. I just want him to be happy for once.



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The thought of the Solavellan romance not getting a satisfying conclusion is actually depressing me more than the thought of my Inquisitor losing her hand tbh. It's just too sad already. I just hope we Solasmancers get at least... SOMETHING! :crying:



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The thought of the Solavellan romance not getting a satisfying conclusion is actually depressing me more than the thought of my Inquisitor losing her hand tbh. It's just too sad already. I just hope we Solasmancers get at least... SOMETHING! :crying:


I sympathize because I feel the same way. However, the whole "you won't get closure but you will walk away utterly intrigued" statement made me really sad after reading it. I've gotten over it now, though. I THINK I'm finally ready to play this dlc, come what may. I still have Cullen if things turn out to be horribly cruel and depressing with Solas. I'm wishing for the best, though! You never know which path BioWare writers are gonna take you down. Kind of a thrill, eh? :P Tomorrow I'll be all heavy breathing and tears in my eyes! I'm ready to get it over with!

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intr.v. tres·passed, tres·pass·ing, tres·pass·es
1. To commit an unlawful injury to the person, property, or rights of another, with actual or implied force or violence, especially to enter onto another's land wrongfully.
Well, that does pretty much cover everything about the dlc. They said there was extra meaning to the name, right?
Injury to a person.
I have to stop making myself even sadder.
Everything will turn out okay and then we'll all look back on this and laugh hysterically.
>.>

*throws random tumblr stuff into the mix*
This was shared on Twitter because Mike said there's something he thinks we will figure out. This person tried to do that, I guess. I miss speculation and discussion. :( So anyway here:
http://fuckyeahdrago...r-a-guest-nor-a

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*throws random tumblr stuff into the mix*
This was shared on Twitter because Mike said there's something he thinks we will figure out. This person tried to do that, I guess. I miss speculation and discussion. :( So anyway here:
http://fuckyeahdrago...r-a-guest-nor-a

 

I'm not sure how to react if it turns out that Solas and Shartan are one and the same. But anything's possible now. I can't wait to find out!

 

I sympathize because I feel the same way. However, the whole "you won't get closure but you will walk away utterly intrigued" statement made me really sad after reading it. I've gotten over it now, though. I THINK I'm finally ready to play this dlc, come what may. I still have Cullen if things turn out to be horribly cruel and depressing with Solas. I'm wishing for the best, though! You never know which path BioWare writers are gonna take you down. Kind of a thrill, eh?  :P Tomorrow I'll be all heavy breathing and tears in my eyes! I'm ready to get it over with!

 

I'm really wondering how we will walk away "utterly intrigued" from this romance. That's the part that has me curious. :huh: 

 

I really do hope that everyone who gets to play this DLC will have fun with it even if it'll cause everyone to cry (and possibly rage). I wish I could experience the whole thing firsthand but alas, I'm just a simple PS3 console peasant and so I await spoilers from here and on Tumblr. :P 



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Omg did they say we won't get closure?!:(

Just finished my playthrough with everything done for tomorrow, now I'm sitting here all anxious :/
I'm worried for both the romance and Solas as a character. I really love both so I fear ending up utterly disappointed tomorow...

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Omg did they say we won't get closure?! :(

Just finished my playthrough with everything done for tomorrow, now I'm sitting here all anxious :/
I'm worried for both the romance and Solas as a character. I really love both so I fear ending up utterly disappointed tomorow...

 

Sort of. To quote, he said, "You may not walk away completely satisfied, but you should walk away utterly intrigued."

 

Whatever that means.  :wacko:



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Sort of. To quote, he said, "You may not walk away completely satisfied, but you should walk away utterly intrigued."

Whatever that means. :wacko:

Ok hmmm that doesn't give me much hope :( I mean I don't really expect a happy ending, but still...
My body is not ready

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Ok hmmm that doesn't give me much hope :( I mean I don't really expect a happy ending, but still...
My body is not ready

Well that has to mean that it won´t be too bad right? *clutches team optimism flag*  :P



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omg only less than 24 hours and i'm all nervous and worried :(  Mike didn't say very comforting things in his interviews about Solas and Lavellan so I'm ready for more heartbreak!  It's just going to suck if all the other romances get a nice love scene and we just get Solas pushing us away... again :(