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Oooh! Where did you see this? And is the hand removal scene the same as the romanced Lavellan minus the kissing? Because I watched the romanced Lavellan version and it didn't really look like Solas removed her hand. (She still had her hand attached.)

 

I think he made it dissolve with magic.



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How do you get this dialogue? This is...so heartwrenching. :crying:

From the video dafan posted. That whole friendship scene is hella touching, especially the choice.

 

I'm going to redeem you - Inquisitor will try and make Solas change his plans.

 

I'll stop you - Inquisitor will stop Solas even if it means killing him.

 

So I'm really hoping this implied there are options in the future on his fate. The far, far off future...



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YES! Our patience shall be rewarded!! I know there will be things that will make us waver but I feel strongly that there is a good chance our Lavellan will catch her wolf.

 

Plus let's be damn honest. Something needed to happen to shake up the way Elves are being currently treated in Thedas. It's been bothering me since DA:O. We had a hand at resolving the way mages live (for better or worse) and I feel like Solas needed to do this because the way Elves live in Thedas is just not right at all.

 

A revolution is coming. It's the time of Elves now! Elves are done being treated this way and while I do not agree with Solas' methods, I do believe something needs to happen. Tevinter we coming for you!

 

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I agree. I don't want Solas to destroy this world, but I do want that Sandal prophecy to happen, all the magic to come back - everyone re-establishes their connection to the Fade that was lost when the veil was created - even the dwarves; elves regain their immortality and their more powerful abilities; spirits become less 'other' and more a part of the world; and everyone has access to a bit of magic, making for a more level playing field. This is what I want to happen anyway. Lavellan can help Solas achieve something, while still preventing total annihilation. 

 

Way I see it in the next game. Solas succeeds in lifting the veil, but the Inq  gets to him before he can put the more drastic, this-world-destroying plan into motion. A friendly/romanced Inq can talk him down (he wants to be stopped dammit!), a hostile Inq will fight and kill him. Cue him and Lavellan getting a sort of happy ending, and a set up for DA5 - which is the world against the Elven Pantheon/Forgotten Ones, who have all come hurtling out of the Fade now the veil is down ...

 

Yeah, well that's my headcanon and I'm sticking to it :)



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I agree. I don't want Solas to destroy this world, but I do want that Sandal prophecy to happen, all the magic to come back - everyone re-establishes their connection to the Fade that was lost when the veil was created - even the dwarves; elves regain their immortality and their more powerful abilities; spirits become less 'other' and more a part of the world; and everyone has access to a bit of magic, making for a more level playing field. This is what I want to happen anyway. Lavellan can help Solas achieve something, while still preventing total annihilation. 

 

Way I see it in the next game. Solas succeeds in lifting the veil, but the Inq  gets to him before he can put the more drastic, this-world-destroying plan into motion. A friendly/romanced Inq can talk him down (he wants to be stopped dammit!), a hostile Inq will fight and kill him. Cue him and Lavellan getting a sort of happy ending, and a set up for DA5 - which is the world against the Elven Pantheon/Forgotten Ones, who have all come hurtling out of the Fade now the veil is down ...

 

Yeah, well that's my headcanon and I'm sticking to it :)

 

We have 2 more Archdemons to fight too and one was hinted at as being next in JOH.



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"With frequent visits to her Widdle, of course"

 

AWWWWWWWWW

 

So Sera and Dagna ARE a confirmed couple!



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I'm going to cry if I can't get this to work.

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From the video dafan posted. That whole friendship scene is hella touching, especially the choice.

 

I'm going to redeem you - Inquisitor will try and make Solas change his plans.

 

I'll stop you - Inquisitor will stop Solas even if it means killing him.

 

So I'm really hoping this implied there are options in the future on his fate. The far, far off future...

 

Ohh, I looked for it and saw the scene. Very, very touching! Makes me even sadder than some of the Solavellan scenes. He's so torn about it all. :crying:

 

I hope so, too. The devs wouldn't put such a huge choice has the end of their game and then never mention it again, right?



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We have 2 more Archdemons to fight too and one was hinted at as being next in JOH.

Them too! A great big cataclysmic, armageddon for DA5, and all hands on deck to stop it :) But first, DA4, redemption for Solas and possibly smooches. YUP.



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Is it just me or is the friendship scene more emotional than the romance? I was all awww for Lavellan but this one made me swallow a lump in my throat and wipe my eyes. Solas seems to be silently pleading with his human friend to stop him and save him from himself.



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Is it just me or is the friendship scene more emotional than the romance? I was all awww for Lavellan but this one made me swallow a lump in my throat and wipe my eyes. Solas seems to be silently pleading with his human friend to stop him and save him from himself.

 

I think part of it was that the stream we were watching didn't choose all of the questions, like the one about Corypheus and the orb and such, so we missed some of the dialogue impact. I liked the fact that with a friend he actually spoke more of his regrets, though. Especially the part where he wanted to be proven wrong.



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Just rewatched the twitch and then watched the friendship ending. Okay Im feeling better about the levellan ending (I only got one eye right now) as it does seem he really does love her. But wont his plans kill her anyway?
The friendship ending revealed way more too. Shows he takes the arm and he just flat out says he is the big bad and he is going to kill the world.

Im hoping in da4 our lavellan can appear to save him or at least die with him. 
Just wish we could of gone with. 

sorry for the typos. One eye.



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I think part of it was that the stream we were watching didn't choose all of the questions, like the one about Corypheus and the orb and such, so we missed some of the dialogue impact. I liked the fact that with a friend he actually spoke more of his regrets, though. Especially the part where he wanted to be proven wrong.

 

Also I think the redeem or fight option was changed to join him or stop him. I kind of wish the join option was just a 3rd, because my Lavellan loved him but joining him won't save him.



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Akso, can anyone translate what Lavellen says to Solas in elvish when you pick the redeem him option and he says "I wish it could"
 



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Also I think the redeem or fight option was changed to join him or stop him. I kind of wish the join option was just a 3rd, because my Lavellan loved him but joining him won't save him.

 

I thought the redeem was save him and the stop him was basically the same? Did I just see it wrong? I'll have to watch it again.

 

Anyways, everyone! Look how cute Sera and her Widdle are.

 

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Also I think the redeem or fight option was changed to join him or stop him. I kind of wish the join option was just a 3rd, because my Lavellan loved him but joining him won't save him.

 

The join option would make sense for an elf, though...but I agree, a third option would have been better. I do think the outcome for join/redeem is the same, though, so the devs wanted to keep it easier for themselves. Two variables + Inquisition or no Inquisition is enough to put into a future game as is.



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Oh well it works on my ****** Trev. Guess I'll play this first.

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I thought the redeem was save him and the stop him was basically the same? Did I just see it wrong? I'll have to watch it again.

 

Anyways, everyone! Look how cute Sera and her Widdle are.

 

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If you redeem him, you will try and convince him not to destroy this world. If you say you will stop him, it means you will likely kill him in the upcoming war against him. Lavellen wanted to join him, but he refused her. I will redeem him, but the join option just didn't sit right with me since my Lavellen isn't one to watch her friends die for a lover. I'm hoping by joining him, she was trying to stop him.



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Also I think the redeem or fight option was changed to join him or stop him. I kind of wish the join option was just a 3rd, because my Lavellan loved him but joining him won't save him.

 

I thought the redeem was save him and the stop him was basically the same? Did I just see it wrong? I'll have to watch it again.

 

Anyways, everyone! Look how cute Sera and her Widdle are.

 

Spoiler

 

I checked the two vids (friendship and romance).

 

For the friendship version, the choice says, "I'm going to redeem you."

The romance version, the choice says, "I won't give up on you."

 

And the explanation for both choices is the same: "The Inquisition will try to convince Solas to change his plan."

 

EDIT: As for the stop him version ("I can't let you do this."). "The Inquisition will stop Solas, even if it means killing him."



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I checked the two vids (friendship and romance).

 

For the friendship version, the choice says, "I'm going to redeem you".

The romance version, the choice says, "I won't give up on you."

 

And the explanation for both choices is "The Inquisition will try to convince Solas to change his plan."

 

Oh good they were separate! That stream was hard to follow with the small words. As long as saying join didn't replace redeem I'm happy.



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Ugh I'm so annoyed I can't even. I wanted to play it first with Lavellan.

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I am never going to do the wrong thing so I can save him. I will choose the redeem option and disband the Inquisition so we won't have a huge war and can do this quietly with new companions.

I'm with you. I want to change the way things are for Elves but I don't see my Lavellan accepting to go with him so they can destroy the world together. I'm all about finding other alternatives but I think it is about time Elves get a say on the matter!



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I'm with you. I want to change the way things are for Elves but I don't see my Lavellan accepting to go with him so they can destroy the world together. I'm all about finding other alternatives but I think it is about time Elves get a say on the matter!

 

Agreed! Elves wont get noticed in a good way or receive respect if they rebel and try and kill everyone. Solas needs to see that his plans will not only bring his end and the world, but also history might just repeat itself.



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Also... I just had a WEIRD thought. What if the "Maker" was Solas trying to get Andraste to help with the veil with her mage powers? What if we are repeating that history again, but instead of approaching us in dreams, he joined us and led us to victory. Now we are going to Tevinter to fight him and his elven army.



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Translation of Solavellan scene "I won't give up on you!":

 

Elvish:
I: "Solas, var lath vir suledin."
S: "I wish it could, Vhenan."

 

Literally:
I: "Solas, our love way/path endure/strenght to withstand loss."
S: "I wish it could, Vhenan."

 

Translated:
I: "Solas, our love has the strenght to withstand this path that you walk."
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I: "Solas, the path of our love has the strenght to withstand this."

S: "I wish it could, Vhenan."



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has psn updated yet? im on ps4 and cant find it