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#926
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I dunno - his sudden crew of spies HAS GOT ME WONDERIN'.  Who are these random Joes who know he is Fen'Harel over his fcking girlfriend???  Since it was confirmed that the elf guy in 'The Masked Empire' was working for him, we know he has been gathering them up pre-Inquisition.  

 

...GAH, I am even more pissed.  This is good, though.  Angry is better than sad.  Angry will fuel me for 3+ years until DA4.  ...yes.  Excellent.

 

Yes, of course, but those spies worked in the background - I want to know a lot more about them, too! Still, the little 'world' that he build around him for over a year was rooted to Skyhold and the Inquisitor, not his duty as Fen'Harel. It was always at the back of his mind, but he could simply be 'that elven apostate who helps seal the breach' for a while. Thus, I believe he could be 'just Solas' for a while. Or, at least, indulge in that fantasy that he is nothing more than an elven apostate and Lavellan is nothing more than an unfortunate victim of a mysterious event.



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It doesn't seem that surprising that he'd be a "the ends justify the means" type of guy.  He's always seemed like that.  I just hope Lavellan can save him...  then they can go into uthenera together (if that's even still possible) or just become hermits :3



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Yes, of course, but those spies worked in the background - I want to know a lot more about them, too! Still, the little 'world' that he build around him for over a year was rooted to Skyhold and the Inquisitor, not his duty as Fen'Harel. It was always at the back of his mind, but he could simply be 'that elven apostate who helps seal the breach' for a while. Thus, I believe he could be 'just Solas' for a while. Or, at least, indulge in that fantasy that he is nothing more than an elven apostate and Lavellan is nothing more than an unfortunate victim of a mysterious event.

 

He says it too. "What we had was real" meaning his love was real. Solas loved Lavellan, not his title the Dread Wolf. Solas with his sass (teasing the Inquisitor about being tied up after Cole reveals her sexual activity with Bull), he loves it most of the time when you choose the sarcastic/humor replies and he's caring. Tried to heal that human woman at the Crossroads. Then the other side of him comes out (Wisdom dying) and he's back to being the Dread Wolf you don't want to cross.



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He says it too. "What we had was real" meaning his love was real. Solas loved Lavellan, not his title the Dread Wolf. Solas with his sass (teasing the Inquisitor about being tied up after Cole reveals her sexual activity with Bull), he loves it most of the time when you choose the sarcastic/humor replies and he's caring. Tried to heal that human woman at the Crossroads. Then the other side of him comes out (Wisdom dying) and he's back to being the Dread Wolf you don't want to cross.

 

I think it's safe to say that he...woke up from his fantasy.



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I think it's safe to say that he...woke up from his fantasy.

 

And now Lavellen needs to show him it's real if he wants it to be.



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Since it was confirmed that the elf guy in 'The Masked Empire' was working for him, we know he has been gathering them up pre-Inquisition.  

 

When was that confirmed?? 

 

If he killed Felassan I'm going to freak. 



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I look at it from a developer standpoint, though.  Lavellan can save him, sure, but is Lavellan going to be a protagonist in DA4?  Probably not.  Will she be a cameo in DA4?  Maybe.  Will she be involved enough where she effects the main/semi-antagonist?  I don't know.  Depends on what they do with Solas, honestly.

 

My hopes for DA4:  Solas awakens the elven "gods" first, because he finds out that tearing down the Veil requires their help.  They have plans of their own and take over as primary antagonists and boot Solas to the sidelines, or (ideally, fingers-crossed!) into a protagonist/anti-hero role who helps the protagonist of DA4 stop them.  Solas' role as a "bad guy" can be wrapped up in a mid-game Adamant-y style questline that the Quizzie accompanies us on, and it can go from there.



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When was that confirmed?? 

 

If he killed Felassan I'm going to freak. 

 

When you ask him about the eluvians, he mentioned that he had someone who died trying to get control of them from Briala.  I didn't read the book, but I am aware of an elf who died in them who was linked to Fen'Harel, no?  

EDIT - the way he worded it, the death was not caused by Solas.



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It's sad people are quick to give up on Solas. I have seen enough proof he can and will be redeemed if that is the path you choose, and that he now realizes that if someone like the Inquisitor exists, then not all hope is lost. He just saved their life too. He is not going to lose me. I will be there just as my Lavellan/Trevelyan said. He needs a friend now more than ever and a monster can't love, but he does, so he's no Cory. Similar, but he's not hopeless unless made to be in DA4 (and I doubt that). And DA4 strongly hints that the Inquisitor is not done. Maybe not a PC, but not done with the story at all.

I think you're right on the money with this.

 

Solas's problem is that he's trapped in his own head, and he's been so focused on this insane plan for so long that he doesn't realize how insane it is. I'm willing to bet that he came up with it immediately after waking up. It just sounds like a desperate way to assuage his guilt. "I'll just take down the veil and everything will go back to the way it was." He wasn't attached to the new world, so he didn't really care what happened to it.

 

With Inquisition, however, he's been forced to actually connect with people again. Remember what Cole says to a romanced Lavellan? "You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can't." Or what Solas says himself. "You change...everything." He can change, he can feel himself changing. But he's still grieving over the loss of his whole world. And now he's struggling with what to do.

 

The Inquisitor could be the tipping point, whether they're a friend or a lover. It just necessitates not giving up on him.



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When was that confirmed?? 

 

If he killed Felassan I'm going to freak. 

i don`t think it was confirmed, but it did feel like it. He did talk about it and said his agents or something, so.. Felassan was working for him..



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Honestly, I think if he would manage to succeed it would just be same thing all over.
He'd probably once again regret what he's done.
Because he started to care, not only about the Inquisitor, but others as well. He deeply respects Cassandra for example, Cole is obvious and so on.
So at first he might be happy he got "his people" back, but I think in the end he'll regret.

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When you ask him about the eluvians, he mentioned that he had someone who died trying to get control of them from Briala.  I didn't read the book, but I am aware of an elf who died in them who was linked to Fen'Harel, no?  

EDIT - the way he worded it, the death was not caused by Solas.

well this just keeps getting better (worse) and better (extra worse) 



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Honestly, I think if he would manage to succeed it would just be same thing all over.
He'd probably once again regret what he's done.
Because he started to care, not only about the Inquisitor, but others as well. He deeply respects Cassandra for example, Cole is obvious and so on.
So at first he might be happy he got "his people" back, but I think in the end he'll regret.

 

I sense the plot of Dragon Age 7, haha.  Dragon Age: Oops, I Did It Again



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I think you're right on the money with this.

 

Solas's problem is that he's trapped in his own head, and he's been so focused on this insane plan for so long that he doesn't realize how insane it is. I'm willing to bet that he came up with it immediately after waking up. It just sounds like a desperate way to assuage his guilt. "I'll just take down the veil and everything will go back to the way it was." He wasn't attached to the new world, so he didn't really care what happened to it.

 

With Inquisition, however, he's been forced to actually connect with people again. Remember what Cole says to a romanced Lavellan? "You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can't." Or what Solas says himself. "You changed...everything." He can change, he can feel himself changing. But he's still grieving over the loss of his whole world. And now he's struggling with what to do.

 

The Inquisitor could be the tipping point, whether they're a friend or a lover. It just necessitates not giving up on him.

 

Oh that just opened my eyes fully! It all makes sense now!

 

Solas awoke and as he does many times in the game, he tries to run from his problems. The quickest way to fix his mess is to tear down the Veil, then he thinks all will be well. Reality is he doesn't know what to do and is taking a shortcut. When he fell for Lavellan and dumped her, it was to prevent him for changing his plans. As a friend it's the same. This simple human/elf/dwarf/qunari opens his heart and makes him realize he might be wrong but he can't let go of his guilt and it's eating away at him.



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Honestly, I think if he would manage to succeed it would just be same thing all over.
He'd probably once again regret what he's done.
Because he started to care, not only about the Inquisitor, but others as well. He deeply respects Cassandra for example, Cole is obvious and so on.
So at first he might be happy he got "his people" back, but I think in the end he'll regret.

that's what I'm predicting as well. I just can't understand why he doesn't see that he's just messing up all over again. 

 

There is no "right way" to rebuild a world. 

 

(I mean i do "understand" per-say. he just acts like he's so all-knowing constantly that you'd think he'd be more privy to his own idiocy) 



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Honestly, I think if he would manage to succeed it would just be same thing all over.
He'd probably once again regret what he's done.
Because he started to care, not only about the Inquisitor, but others as well. He deeply respects Cassandra for example, Cole is obvious and so on.
So at first he might be happy he got "his people" back, but I think in the end he'll regret.

 

He mentions he is walking the death journey, though - he doesn't even think that he will make it through this.



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Honestly, I think if he would manage to succeed it would just be same thing all over.
He'd probably once again regret what he's done.
Because he started to care, not only about the Inquisitor, but others as well. He deeply respects Cassandra for example, Cole is obvious and so on.
So at first he might be happy he got "his people" back, but I think in the end he'll regret.

 

In simple terms: We broke Solas  :lol: he's in a "this does not compute" mode.



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Okay, I passed out from waiting up all night/morning for the dlc and then watching stream. But, upon first waking, my first thoughts:

 

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Congrats, Weekes & co. I have not had a game -- a story -- affect me so deeply as this one has in a long, long time. Maybe ever. I want to thank them, and punch them all in their stupid faces. 

 

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Did u all choose the Orlesian or the Guard to arrest? I need to know asap.

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Did u all choose the Orlesian or the Guard to arrest?

guard because i suspected solas (and i was right. I was like "BOOYAH") 



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So what could possibly kill Solas? would bringing down the veil destroy him as well? or he just thinks he'll get the smack down from the other elven gods? or is it the Mythal merger changing him? Flemeth did say there would be a reckoning.

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I chose the guard too, dunno if it makes a difference though

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guard because i suspected solas (and i was right. I was like "BOOYAH") 

Wasn't the servant also serving the Qun?



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I love how the Solas thread now seems to worship Coryfish for giving you more time to live because of his actions! :lol:



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So what could possibly kill Solas? would bringing down the veil destroy him as well? or he just thinks he'll get the smack down form the other elven gods? or is it the Mythal merger changing him? Flemeth did say there would be a reckoning.

Probably something Flemeth/Mythal related. 

 

He really needs to feel the repercussions of his actions, and I think Mythal (justice goddess) will be just the ironically right woman do deal out his karma.