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[Onecrazymonkey1]

Why would his feelings for a rogue/warrior Lavellan be any different from his feelings for a mage Lavellan? I noticed this has been brought up a few times in the Solas thread before. I just wonder where people get the idea that his feelings for a non-mage Lavellan would be less than a mage Lavellan. 

 

 

 I'm not saying that his feelings would be any less per se and I actually never felt like that before this DLC. I also had no idea it was brought up previously. However his whole line about the people of Thedas being tranquil to him just freaked me out. I can't even imagine romancing an actual tranquil but to think that Solas  thought that about the people of Thedas unnerves me.... among many other things. Also how can he ethically involve himself in a romance with the inquisitor to begin with whether they're a mage or not if that's how he really feels?

 

I know he said it was a bad idea but the guy really needed more restraint not to kiss back considering the bigger picture now.  I just felt that line was more then a little insulting and my already overloaded brain jumped to that next nagging thought. This is coming from someone who loved playing a rogue with him, hell rogue is my go to class for everything. However, he still feels Thedas is a mistake and is willing to destroy everything so he can put it back to the way he wants it. So it's hard for me  not to feel like he sees a warrior/rogue as somehow lesser as well (at least from my perspective, not saying he actually feels that way though). I get how he said the quizzy proved him wrong but I guess just not enough to stop him from trying to kill everyone? Altogether it seems pretty racist and if he felt so strongly about the people on Thedas then what makes my inquisitor any different to him?  smooches, nice conversation and moonlit walks? Why is her spirit so marvelous? because he got to know her and not anyone else?

 

I have trouble a lot of the times expressing my feelings so I hope I'm making sense. Just trying to explain where I'm coming from. Also, I hope it doesn't feel like I'm jumping on you! I am a little angry right now and I hope it's not coming out in my writing but it's not at you, it's at Solas and the way everything turned out.

 

I think this whole romance just really got me down.... I feel bamboozled, duped, hoodwinked, run amok

 

This doesn't mean I hate the guy though. in spite of everything, my inquisitor still loves him.

[Avejajed]

This is off topic but is there any way to read the end cards for a romanced and married cullen? They have to be around here somewhere.

[Fen'Eira]

I am so emotionally spent. If it weren't for the spoilers, I'd be devastated.  I wish there had been one more option...

 

The inquisitor disappears, no one knows where she disappeared to, so the inquisition goes on without her in whatever capacity (like being the Divine's guard).  

 

I would have liked to see her give a pirate smile and  then follow Solas into the mirror whether he approved or not.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I am so emotionally spent. If it weren't for the spoilers, I'd be devastated.  I wish there had been one more option...

 

The inquisitor disappears, no one knows where she disappeared to, so the inquisition goes on without her in whatever capacity (like being the Divine's guard).  

 

I would have liked to see her give a pirate smile and  then follow Solas into the mirror whether he approved or not.

 

How exactly was she going to do that?  She could barely stand for the Anchor at the end, and was in no position to make any threats or demands.  I'm sure if she had tried to follow him, Solas could easily incapacitate her.

 

On a non-Solas note, did anyone else have weird problems with continuity?  My game seemed to think that Gaspard was Emperor and Clan Lavellan was dead, which I'm positive was not the case.

[Fen'Eira]

How exactly was she going to do that?  She could barely stand for the Anchor at the end, and was in no position to make any threats or demands.  I'm sure if she had tried to follow him, Solas could easily incapacitate her.

 

On a non-Solas note, did anyone else have weird problems with continuity?  My game seemed to think that Gaspard was Emperor and Clan Lavellan was dead, which I'm positive was not the case.

Mine did the same.  I had saved the empress and yet this DLC mentioned Gaspard as the emperor.

[Renmiri1]

is a bug, pw talked about the bug on twitter

 

talking about Fellassan maybe Solas didn't kill him ?

 

[Sable Rhapsody]

is a bug, pw talked about the bug on twitter

 

talking about Fellassan maybe Solas didn't kill him ?

 

I think he did.  At this point, I'm done making excuses for his more questionable choices.  Dude is (as of the moment) willing to embrace a plan that destroys modern Thedas and (presumably) most of its people.  Felassan's just one guy.

 

Not that I don't still find Solas fascinating, and even still sympathetic.  But he is a particularly special headcase.  Who seems to be steeling himself to do something that will kill a romanced/friendly Inquisitor.  Though it does raise the question of what's up with all those disappearing elves in the epilogue.  Will some of the elves survive whatever he does?  And if so, why not include the Inquisitor in that bunch?

[SamanthaJ]

Patrick Weekes is a choice spirit.

 

https://twitter.com/...465916300128256

 

Also...

 

Even though I'm on Team Redeem...

 

I just feel like this time it might simply be that it isn't more complicated than that.

[Renmiri1]

meh, My Lavellan is a lost case, she will always try to redeem Solas

 

But maybe my DA4 protagonist will fight them both

[Mims]

Well, finally finished it! Too tired to really ramble at length, but I really enjoyed it. I actually got a bit choked up- not so much at the Solas stuff, but the end cards. Particularly Iron Bull and Dorian. 

 

Overall, it fixed any problems I had with the original ending with Corypheus. Really looking forward to seeing where the story goes from here!

 

 

 

And as far as Felassan goes- I'm pretty sure Weekes is just teasing. There's pretty much no way it could be anyone else at this point. 

[CapricornSun]

You...I love you....I give you like!

 

There's definitely gotta be more going on! If there was any other way, I'm sure Solas would at least TRY! Maybe that's just my optimistic heart crying for it to be true xD

 

Plus everyone in the Solas forum is burning their flags!! D: everyone is hating him! I CAN'T TAKE IT!! *Cries*

 

*Loves Solas WAY too much to be normal*

 

If that's the state of the Solas thread right now, then maybe I don't want to go back there anymore.

 

(And yes, I love Solas way too much despite the fact he just said he was going to destroy the world...)

[jellobell]

 Why is her spirit so marvelous? because he got to know her and not anyone else?

Yeeees? Sort of?

 

Back when I was playing the vanilla game for the first time, I commented to a friend of mine that I was really worried about Solas because he was so determined to isolate himself, even though he seemed terribly lonely. He tries really freaking hard not to get attached to anybody in the Inquisition, and yet he does anyways. That all starts with the Inquisitor. They fascinate him. They're someone he can't bring himself to ignore. And when he gets to know them he realizes that they're one of the best people he's ever known, despite them being the product of a world gone so wrong. And that terrifies him because it puts his whole plan in jeopardy. It isn't that the Inquisitor is the exception, it's because she might not be. One can justify (in a crazy sort of way) killing a world full of shadows that shouldn't have existed in the first place.

 

For a while there he was happy, I think, because he thought he might not go through with it. But after the temple of Mythal he figured he had to see it through.

 

I'm not going to defend what he's trying to do. It's wrong-headed and awful. But I think he knows this. Really, he knew it all along. Dehumanizing the entirety of Thedas was the only way he could go through with it. At the end of the day he can't live with the guilt of destroying his world.

 

I think he started seeing the Inquisitor as a person, and then fell in love with her. That would've been even before the first kiss. After all, in that scene she's already apparently, "[changed] everything". But even if he doesn't fall in love with the Inquisitor, just spending time with a morally upstanding, sympathetic person has shaken him so much that a large part of him really doesn't want to do this anymore. And that's just one person.

 

I have to wonder if the best plan wouldn't be something like, Operation: Get Solas Some Goddamn Friends.

 

Plus, one of the most mind-blowing revelations of this new DLC is that he's only been around for a year. A single year! A year ago he was back in his own world. That is insane. Imagine you woke up in a nuclear wasteland when just last week you thought you'd created cold fusion.

[jellobell]

Man, it's all starting to sink in now.    Really, this just fits perfectly with everything we've already known about Solas. Especially the stuff he says to an Inquisitor he hates (ha, I was right, you're all @ssholes...therefore I am justified in going through with my plan to destroy the world). Bravo, Weekes. Mind = blown.

 

I mean, I still adore Solas but I am loving this dark twist on things. He's still everything I thought he was, but I do think he has a biiiit of a gasket loose.

 

I am super looking forward to beating him over the head with The Power of Friendship until he realizes what a moron he's being (...that's totally how DA4's gonna go, right?)

[SamanthaJ]

Man, it's all starting to sink in now.    Really, this just fits perfectly with everything we've already known about Solas. Especially the stuff he says to an Inquisitor he hates (ha, I was right, you're all @ssholes...therefore I am justified in going through with my plan to destroy the world). Bravo, Weekes. Mind = blown.

 

I mean, I still adore Solas but I am loving this dark twist on things. He's still everything I thought he was, but I do think he has a biiiit of a gasket loose.

 

I am super looking forward to beating him over the head with The Power of Friendship until he realizes what a moron he's being.

 

We need to fix that gasket.

 

And yeah, it can never be pointed out enough that apparently and Inquisitor who was an asshole to him doesn't get a choice in the end on whether to try and fight or save him. They wouldn't have a chance. I have hope that the fact that the choice is there actually matters in the long run.

[Mims]

If that's the state of the Solas thread right now, then maybe I don't want to go back there anymore.

 

(And yes, I love Solas way too much despite the fact he just said he was going to destroy the world...)

 

Things will settle down eventually! There's going to be a lot of high emotions on both sides.

 

As far as Solas goes, while some impressions I had of him changed I'm still very much a fan of the character and where the storyline is going. I would have been a bit bummed if the story had ended with Lavellan just walking off like the descent ended. Lavellan taking a proactive role in fixing things, Solas still clearly being torn up about it all- love all of it. 

 

But putting all of that aside. I really think this DLC showed a lot of love bioware has towards the fans. Just so many shout outs and nice moments. I hope people who are feeling burned about the romance try another route with a new character. There's a lot of great stuff.

 

 

Only thing I didn't like? The hand removal was really odd. I don't know if we're missing graphics, or if it was all just poorly communicated? It seemed like an important scene that you'd want to make very clear what was going on there. 

[Renmiri1]

Her hand is still there ??

[TheEggCrusher]

Man, it's all starting to sink in now.    Really, this just fits perfectly with everything we've already known about Solas. Especially the stuff he says to an Inquisitor he hates (ha, I was right, you're all @ssholes...therefore I am justified in going through with my plan to destroy the world). Bravo, Weekes. Mind = blown.

 

I mean, I still adore Solas but I am loving this dark twist on things. He's still everything I thought he was, but I do think he has a biiiit of a gasket loose.

 

I am super looking forward to beating him over the head with The Power of Friendship until he realizes what a moron he's being (...that's totally how DA4's gonna go, right?)

this is how i feel:

 

 

I just want to save him and all he wants to do is go into evil-mastermind-mode and destroy the world. 

 

But really though, the fact that he was only awake for a year before the conclave is huuuuge. The pain is still extremely fresh, and his evil plan was probably concocted fairly quickly after he realized what he had done. 

 

He must view the veil as the ultimate mistake and an aberration that should have never been created. It is the barrier holding back everything he thinks the world should be, but what he doesn't understand is that it was never in his right, and still isn't, to go around rebuilding the world. it backfired the first time and it will the second. it's just not something that can ever be successful. 

[SamanthaJ]

Someone made a thread about how they were angry the arm was glitched before they realized what really happened.

 

I thought it was obvious what was happening because of Solas's magic usage, though, but perhaps that's just because I already kind of knew it would happen.

[panamakira]

OMG I just finished playing it. It was fantastic. I mean, I don't take anything back of what I mentioned before. I think that my Inquisitor is determined to hunt Solas down and save him from what he's about to do. Ugh. It was terribly sad and incredibly exciting at the same time. Solas was never meant to be an easy romance but like with Morrigan, there might be a way to be with him. I told him I didn't support his crazy. I will show you the way vhenan! My hope is REAL!

 

The fact that he loves her still though. He called her "Vhenan" and ughhhhhhh....

I mean the way he talks to a romanced Lavellan is very different to a friend Inquisitor. You can hear the pain, struggle and sadness in his expressions and the way he spoke. That got to me so much. Also the way she talked to him. You could see and hear the pain and the love there. It's beautiful.

 

In Weekes I trust that we will get a suitable ending/continuation to this romance! The feels guys......THE FEELS!

 

I haven't even gotten to Cullen yet, I was sad to see him settle down somewhere in Ferelden once I disbanded the Inquisition. Don't worry Cully-Wooly my Trevellyan is coming to get you!!!

 

I want to see someone get married!

 

Also I chose the angry option at the end when I disbanded the Inquisition and that speech was ****** perfect. Working with a smaller team reminds me more of my Warden and Hawke so I don't have an issue working solo to get my wolf back.

[Alyka]

My emotions are all over the place right now. Even though I prepared myself for the worse case scenario, the ending still affected me.

 

It's like I love and hate Solas at the same time. But I do think he can be redeemed and my Lavellan won't give up.

And I also want to thank everybody here for posting their thoughts. It is really helping me to address all of the things that I'm feeling.

[panamakira]

I asked Weekes, I said some people are taking what he said as they did lay together and he said "Your call"

So it's still up to us!

Well in my head they totally did it. I like that is being left ambiguous because I know some people believe they didn't woohoo but I mean my Lavellan ain't shy about it. So I'm sure she talked him into it. I doubt it's a thing she regrets though...hehe

[TheEggCrusher]

I kinda feel like writing a redemption fanfic ... too soon?? 

 

I would make it self-insert though. So the main character just played Trespasser, is like "WTF SOLAS," and then ends up in the world through some turn of events and tries to change him for the better while still knowing he might be a lost cause. 

 

Yay or nay?

 

(i would use time travel as a main concept so she could see how he was during the time of arlathan and how he would be if his plan to destroy everything was accomplished) 

 

(edit: also I kinda already started it ;-; i had to vent somehow) 

[Sable Rhapsody]

He must view the veil as the ultimate mistake and an aberration that should have never been created. It is the barrier holding back everything he thinks the world should be, but what he doesn't understand is that it was never in his right, and still isn't, to go around rebuilding the world. it backfired the first time and it will the second. it's just not something that can ever be successful. 

 
So much this.  And it informed my Inquisitor's decision to disband the Inquisition.  Given that Solas's natural tendency is to be compassionate, I think she realizes that all that separates someone like her from someone like him is perspective.  She doesn't want to become the kind of person who feels like she can dictate the fates of others.
 

It's like I love and hate Solas at the same time. But I do think he can be redeemed and my Lavellan won't give up.

I love and hate Anders. It's a weird feeling, but I like it! It makes the character twice as interesting.  And like Anders, I'm glad the game lets us try to redeem Solas, and I'll be ok with it even if it doesn't work out.  She was willing to try, and IMO that's the important part.

 

 

Well in my head they totally did it. I like that is being left ambiguous because I know some people believe they didn't woohoo but I mean my Lavellan ain't shy about it. So I'm sure she talked him into it. I doubt it's a thing she regrets though...hehe

 

I already wrote fanfiction of that sideways samba, so it totally happened in my game! 

[Mims]

Her hand is still there ??

 

Yeah, that's what I saw too. I knew the hand loss was coming because of the leaks- but if I hadn't known, I would have been very very confused. It just looks like her hand glows green, and then in the next scene, no arm. She still clearly had the arm when Solas left her. 

 

I am guessing the budget was tight- but it might have been worth a bit more spell effects there to actually see the arm go. 

[Fen'Eira]

I kinda feel like writing a redemption fanfic ... too soon?? 

 

I would make it self-insert though. So the main character just played Trespasser, is like "WTF SOLAS," and then ends up in the world through some turn of events and tries to change him for the better while still knowing he might be a lost cause. 

 

Yay or nay?

 

(i would use time travel as a main concept so she could see how he was during the time of arlathan and how he would be if his plan to destroy everything was accomplished) 

 

(edit: also I kinda already started it ;-; i had to vent somehow) 

YES PLEASE!!!