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[TheEggCrusher]

Yeah, that's what I saw too. I knew the hand loss was coming because of the leaks- but if I hadn't known, I would have been very very confused. It just looks like her hand glows green, and then in the next scene, no arm. She still clearly had the arm when Solas left her. 

 

I am guessing the budget was tight- but it might have been worth a bit more spell effects there to actually see the arm go. 

i'm so confused about this. Does he take your arm?? The data-mined information says he does but nothing in the actual scene hints at that. 

 

Just imagine him walking away with your arm though. I probably would have screamed like "HEY wth man give it back!!" 

[TheEggCrusher]

YES PLEASE!!!

Welllll here i go ... 

 

 

*starts spiral of eternal solas hell* 

[Mims]

i'm so confused about this. Does he take your arm?? The data-mined information says he does but nothing in the actual scene hints at that. 

 

Just imagine him walking away with your arm though. I probably would have screamed like "HEY wth man give it back!!" 

 

I don't think he actually takes your arm to hang out with. It seems like he's supposed to be stripping the magic from you- which unfortunately also burns away the arm.

 

Its just the presentation that gets confusing, since we still see the arm at the end. 

[TheEggCrusher]

I don't think he actually takes your arm to hang out with. It seems like he's supposed to be stripping the magic from you- which unfortunately also burns away the arm.

 

Its just the presentation that gets confusing, since we still see the arm at the end. 

Well that would have hurt. So your arm is burning off your body, he just kissed you, and now he's walking away and you're a mess on the ground. 

 

Romantic  (sarcasm) 

[Mims]

Well that would have hurt. So your arm is burning off your body, he just kissed you, and now he's walking away and your a mess on the ground. 

 

Romantic  (sarcasm) 

 

Haha. Well, it is magic! And, the Inquisitor was already in an awful amount of pain it seems. I don't think it was a brutal process, since there's no blood or anything. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I didn't realize actually he'd taken the arm off since i wasn't spoiled for a change.  So when quizzy turned up without her lower left arm, it took me a minute to be like, "Oooooh, that's what he was doing during the last makeout!"

 

Romantic, buddy.  Real classy.  Grab my butt and dump me, kiss me and take off my arm 

[Fen'Eira]

Well...I've decided the only way I am going to get past these feels is to start a new run through, new character, romancing someone else, with a suspicious eye on this all-too-helpful apostate.  I have to.  I gotta just let Fen'Eira go, wave goodbye to her and let chase her wolf while I move on with a new character.  It's just too heartbreaking otherwise.

[TheEggCrusher]

I didn't realize actually he'd taken the arm off since i wasn't spoiled for a change.  So when quizzy turned up without her lower left arm, it took me a minute to be like, "Oooooh, that's what he was doing during the last makeout!"

 

Romantic, buddy.  Real classy.  Grab my butt and dump me, kiss me and take off my arm 

i know right. he had so many other opportunities to kiss her. why did he choose the moment of limb-removal?

 

He probably thought it was more meaningful that way. he's all about weird metaphors.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Well...I've decided the only way I am going to get past these feels is to start a new run through, new character, romancing someone else, with a suspicious eye on this all-too-helpful apostate.  I have to.  I gotta just let Fen'Eira go, wave goodbye to her and let chase her wolf while I move on with a new character.  It's just too heartbreaking otherwise.

 

I highly recommend Dorian and Man!Adaar.  I'm going to go back and finish that playthrough.

[Commander of the Grey]

Just a few things I noticed in case no one has mentioned them.

In my end slide where I joined Sera, Quiz has a small crossbow attached to her nub.

A phrase from Cole after the second return to Orlais:

He broke the dreams to stop the old dreams from waking. The wolf chews it's leg off to avoid the trap.

The bard singing:

the slightest unite, then a giant will rise.

Cole dialogue prompt: (spirit)

The veil isn't real. It's false, fake, fabricated to forbid. Isn't it wonderful? It means I belong here. Helping, healing the hurt. I'm not a wrong thing, a wreck, a ruin. I'm what I should be. *sighs* Solas understands.

Dorian: I imagine he would understand if he were here. Shame he ran off.

Cole: he doesn't want me to follow, but I can almost feel him here. All new, faded for her.

[TheEggCrusher]

I highly recommend Dorian and Man!Adaar.  I'm going to go back and finish that playthrough.

Sera is pretty good if you just want to hate solas the whole game (which I think i'm going to do my next play through) as a change of pace. 

 

She's really lighthearted and immature, so basically the opposite of Solas. She's not really my type but she is a good solas-rebound lol 

[TheEggCrusher]

Just a few things I noticed in case no one has mentioned them.

In my end slide where I joined Sera, Quiz has a small crossbow attached to her nub.

A phrase from Cole after the second return to Orlais:

He broke the dreams to stop the old dreams from waking. The wolf chews it's leg off to avoid the trap.

The bard singing:

the slightest unite, then a giant will rise.

Cole dialogue prompt: (spirit)

The veil isn't real. It's false, fake, fabricated to forbid. Isn't it wonderful? It means I belong here. Helping, healing the hurt. I'm not a wrong thing, a wreck, a ruin. I'm what I should be. *sighs* Solas understands.

Dorian: I imagine he would understand if he were here. Shame he ran off.

Cole: he doesn't want me to follow, but I can almost feel him here. All new, faded for her.

Ugh so much good stuff to think about 

 

What really gets me is the last one though. 

 

"All new, faded for her." do you know if that's solasmance specific or if it's just a reference to his spirit friend/ his personal quest?

 

edit: I just had an idea!! what if it's a reference to mythal? he brought down the veil for her and everything he does seems to be tied to her in some way. 

[Commander of the Grey]

Ugh so much good stuff to think about

What really gets me is the last one though.

"All new, faded for her." do you know if that's solasmance specific or if it's just a reference to his spirit friend/ his personal quest?

edit: I just had an idea!! what if it's a reference to mythal? he brought down the veil for her and everything he does seems to be tied to her in some way.

I believe it's just a word jumble. Fen'Harel Dread Wolf = all new faded for her.

Just letting us the player know that he knows the truth about him.

[panamakira]

Did anyone else notice the weird sigil things added to the armor modifications? Anyone know what they are?

YES! I was wondering if that was a new type of rune or something but I couldn't figure it out. I wonder what it does. It seemed like an armor upgrade.

[TheEggCrusher]

I believe it's just a word jumble. Fen'Harel Dread Wolf = all new faded for her.

Just letting us the player know that he knows the truth about him.

yea but i've kinda been hoping weekes put some ambiguous meaning into it for us to think about 

 

i just like to speculate because i'm trying really hard to understand why solas went all loopy and evil. (i know not "evil" evil but he's definitely got something wrong going on in his head) 

[Commander of the Grey]

YES! I was wondering if that was a new type of rune or something but I couldn't figure it out. I wonder what it does. It seemed like an armor upgrade.

If you use barrier or fade cloak to bypass the fire Solas left behind, there are chests with sigils in them. Good stat boosts you can add to armor but always a negative side affect.

[RynJ]

I didn't realize actually he'd taken the arm off since i wasn't spoiled for a change.  So when quizzy turned up without her lower left arm, it took me a minute to be like, "Oooooh, that's what he was doing during the last makeout!"

 

Romantic, buddy.  Real classy.  Grab my butt and dump me, kiss me and take off my arm 

 

First your heart, than your tattoos, then your arm. What body part will he take off with next time, I wonder? All I know is that he'd better keep his hands off crossbow arm. 

[panamakira]

I already wrote fanfiction of that sideways samba, so it totally happened in my game! 

LOL hear hear!! All the fanficition I read has them banging at some point. I think Solas is too passionate for it not have happened on a day his guard wasn't totally up. My Lavellan wasn't staying in the sidelines. 

 

Aghhhh what a mess.....Lavellan you love bad boys...I just hope you can save this one!

[Commander of the Grey]

yea but i've kinda been hoping weekes put some ambiguous meaning into it for us to think about

i just like to speculate because i'm trying really hard to understand why solas went all loopy and evil. (i know not "evil" evil but he's definitely got something wrong going on in his head)

But is it entirely evil?

I know that question depends on how our own brain works but Solas already doomed hundreds of thousands of elves to death by creating the veil which stripped their immortality. That's a lot of blood on his hands. The blood of friends and people who depended on him. Now he wakes up and sees the life he's doomed them to, the poverty and slavery when they deserve so much more.

What's more blood going to do? The world isn't the way it should be. Mages being hunted for what everyone should be. There will always be war and death, whether it's him or someone else after him. All he sees is the destruction he caused, and like Lavellan can tell him after the temple of mythal, "I'll keep trying until I get it right." And the look of relief on his face that someone understands, sees how righting wrongs are important, means so much to him. She reaffirms his dedication to his cause. "I'll put things back the way they used to be." You can tell him.

Corypheus wanted to be a god, he only cared for the betrayal he felt.

Solas wants to set the world back to how it should be. Think of the future lives he'll save even as he possible kills how many more. No more Templar/Mage conflict which has brought Thedas to it's knees anyway and left it vulnerable to attack. How high and mighty will Tevinter be when all of their citizens become mages and they can no longer rule over.

How is what he plans to do any worse than what the humans have done to the elves for the past one thousand years?

Not saying I agree, and I'm terrible at making points like they are in my head, but I understand the why. Maybe in the wrong way, but he doesn't disappoint me at all.

[panamakira]

If you use barrier or fade cloak to bypass the fire Solas left behind, there are chests with sigils in them. Good stat boosts you can add to armor but always a negative side affect.

Cool! Thanks for the info! I doubt I'll use them. I played on hard and it was pretty easy. I should try nightmare with my Trevellyan just to see if I can do it.

[Commander of the Grey]

Jesus H Christ the trail things for the trophies are extreme. >.>

For anyone wondering you find them when you set your difficulty in a new game. New setting to the far right where you check the ones you wanna use.

Potions only heal 1 HP.

*laughing hysterically*

Companion disapproval is doubled. And others. Can receive special equipment at your stronghold.

[TheEggCrusher]

But is it entirely evil?

I know that question depends on how our own brain works but Solas already doomed hundreds of thousands of elves to death by creating the veil which stripped their immortality. That's a lot of blood on his hands. The blood of friends and people who depended on him. Now he wakes up and sees the life he's doomed them to, the poverty and slavery when they deserve so much more.

What's more blood going to do? The world isn't the way it should be. Mages being hunted for what everyone should be. There will always be war and death, whether it's him or someone else after him. All he sees is the destruction he caused, and like Lavellan can tell him after the temple of mythal, "I'll keep trying until I get it right." And the look of relief on his face that someone understands, sees how righting wrongs are important, means so much to him. She reaffirms his dedication to his cause. "I'll put things back the way they used to be." You can tell him.

Corypheus wanted to be a god, he only cared for the betrayal he felt.

Solas wants to set the world back to how it should be. Think of the future lives he'll save even as he possible kills how many more. No more Templar/Mage conflict which has brought Thedas to it's knees anyway and left it vulnerable to attack. How high and mighty will Tevinter be when all of their citizens become mages and they can no longer rule over.

How is what he plans to do any worse than what the humans have done to the elves for the past one thousand years?

Not saying I agree, and I'm terrible at making points like they are in my head, but I understand the why. Maybe in the wrong way, but he doesn't disappoint me at all.

that's why I put quotes around "evil." I strongly believe he is a good person, just in a bad situation. 

 

I've thought about it all day since 6 this morning when I finished the DLC, and I've decided he's a deeply empathetic person trying to save what he loves most, since no one else can or will. 

 

I respect his motives, yet not how he plans to go about it. then again, how else could he fix everything? 

 

He's not evil. flawed, maybe, but not evil. So i'm agreeing with you on everything basically lol 

[Sable Rhapsody]

First your heart, than your tattoos, then your arm. What body part will he take off with next time, I wonder? All I know is that he'd better keep his hands off crossbow arm. 

 

Aw HELL NAW.

 

The rest I will forgive, but he better keep off crossbow arm or I will fill that wolf pelt with daylight  After all, it's his fault quizzy now has the lovechild of Bianca and Hookshot attached to her arm.

[TheEggCrusher]

Aw HELL NAW.

 

The rest I will forgive, but he better keep off crossbow arm or I will fill that wolf pelt with daylight  After all, it's his fault quizzy now has the lovechild of Bianca and Hookshot attached to her arm.

He's screwed over our Lavellans so much x-x 

 

I seriously hope that whatever happens with him in later games that when he is either "saved" or put down by the protagonist, he says/does something really meaningful for his romance with Lavellan. example: "his spirit seeks her out eternally from the fade after he dies" or something

[Renmiri1]

Except the wolf chewed MY ARM the bastard

 

BTW, she asks Did Cole just tell me who killed Felassan 

 

 

 

 

Soooo.. he kills a world but not his helper ?