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[Sable Rhapsody]

He's screwed over our Lavellans so much x-x 

 

I seriously hope that whatever happens with him in later games that when he is either "saved" or put down by the protagonist, he says/does something really meaningful for his romance with Lavellan. example: "his spirit seeks her out eternally from the fade after he dies" or something

 

I do wonder WHY he watches her from the Fade after they part.  Is he really so lonely that he can't help it?  You'd think if anything, seeing her night after night would tempt his resolve, even if he never lets her get close.

 

New headcanon for my Lavellan: she talks to him when he turns up.  Tells him about her life, getting used to crossbow arm, pranking with Sera, being a sassy comtesse with Varric.  She does it to remind him that she's real, that she hasn't given up on him.  And when he can't bear to hear any more, he disappears.

[TheEggCrusher]

Except the wolf chewed MY ARM the bastard

 

BTW, she asks Did Cole just tell me who killed Felassan 

 

 

 

 

Soooo.. he kills a world but not his helper ?

How does that whole code language work? I looked it up and I was so confused. I have no idea how to tell wth weekes is saying 

[Renmiri1]

paste teh text on the box, click encrypt / decrypt, see the translation on top

 

http://www.decode.org/

[SamanthaJ]

How does that whole code language work? I looked it up and I was so confused. I have no idea how to tell wth weekes is saying 

 

This program.

 

http://www.rot13.com/index.php

 

Copy and paste the code and it'll translate it. Alternatively type a normal sentence and it will translate it into code. That's how they communicate spoilers on twitter while still exercising discretion.

[TheEggCrusher]

I do wonder WHY he watches her from the Fade after they part.  Is he really so lonely that he can't help it?  You'd think if anything, seeing her night after night would tempt his resolve, even if he never lets her get close.

 

He seems to be pretty devoted to her, even if he says their love can't last the path he has ahead of him or whatever dramatic stuff he kept saying while i was crying my eyes out staring at my TV screen. 

 

Obviously, he's not exactly trying to get over her. He says he will remember her forever. He'll probably be in love with her for the next couple centuries thinking about how stupid he was.

 

serves him right   he broke my heart into a billion tiny pieces 

[Renmiri1]

I think he believes he will die and wants death. So taking Lavellan with him isn't a good idea. 

[Miss This or That]

I just saw LadyInsanity's video of the scene...and Solas does not kiss Lavellan if you swear to stop him - he takes your hand like he does with every other Inquisitor. So it really IS about saving him from himself. Poor Lavellan.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I think he believes he will die and wants death. So taking Lavellan with him isn't a good idea. 

 

But...she's going to eat it anyway when he ends the world.  Unless she can somehow get out of it like all those elves in the epilogue?

 

I think what he's really afraid of is losing her altogether.  You can hear it in the way he says "Thank you" when she says she never would've imagined him capable of tearing down the Veil.  The idea that the woman he loves might despise him, might fear him, seems to hurt him worse than most.

[Renmiri1]

But...she's going to eat it anyway when he ends the world.  Unless she can somehow get out of it like all those elves in the epilogue?

 

I think what he's really afraid of is losing her altogether.  You can hear it in the way he says "Thank you" when she says she never would've imagined him capable of tearing down the Veil.  The idea that the woman he loves might despise him, might fear him, seems to hurt him worse than most.

 

Yes but since he is dying too, he is ok with it. Is the only way he can do that awful deed I think. He gives back to the elves what he took from them but he himself loses the love of his life and dies. Like Mordin, he fixes the wrongs he caused and doesn't allow himself to be happy :/

[Renmiri1]

damn listening to this on autoplay

 

[TheEggCrusher]

Yes but since he is dying too, he is ok with it. Is the only way he can do that awful deed I think. He gives back to the elves what he took from them but he himself loses the love of his life and dies. Like Mordin, he fixes the wrongs he caused and doesn't allow himself to be happy :/

you're breaking my heart all over again 

 

oh god ... this. 

 

I feel so bad for him. I wish he was real so I could just hug him and tell him he's not a bad person. Mentioning he has a whole army of fangirls might help too ... or he'd be intensely freaked out. most likely the latter. 

[Renmiri1]

another for dlc Solas feels

 

[Nika]

I'm actually sad there was no hug, but the kiss was great! And his facial expressions really got me

I think what he values so much about Lavellan is that she loves Solas as a person, and not Fen'Harel the "god".
Seems like in the ancient times everyone only saw him as a god at one point, but that's not how he wants to be seen.
I assume that's what he means when he thanks you after you tell him you never thought he'd be capable of doind such a thing. Solas might not do it, but "Fen'Harel" definitely would.

[Miss This or That]

I'm actually sad there was no hug, but the kiss was great! And his facial expressions really got me

I think what he values so much about Lavellan is that she loves Solas as a person, and not Fen'Harel the "god".
Seems like in the ancient times everyone only saw him as a god at one point, but that's not how he wants to be seen.
I think that's what he means when he thanks you after you tell him you never thought he'd be capable of doind such a thing. Solas might not do it, but "Fen'Harel" definitely would.

 

I think it is really interesting that, though they are the same person, we can almost totally separate the compassionate side of Solas from the dutiful one that is Fen'Harel. 

 

I also believe that Solas did not let Lavellan come with him because he fears she would interfere with his plans one way or another. Maybe she'd sabotage his spies, maybe her mere presence would be enough to make him question his beliefs - because she is real, so everyone could be real. And then there is the fact that he is steeling his heart to a cutting edge and he doesn't want her to see that part of him. It's all so tragic. You wake up in a wasteland that you once knew, have to come to terms with the fact that everything you stood for has gone wrong - and one of the first things you do is fall in love with the person that you put into a dangerous position in the first place. I think part of why he couldn't hold back can be explained with his statement "It felt like walking among a world of tranquil." - and then there is that one person that is more than that, which makes you realise there must be more like her. It's as if you are stranded in another country where everything is different from home - and then you find one person that seemingly understands the language that you speak and is so eager to teach you their own...gah! I'm making myself sad again. 

[Renmiri1]

hoooooope!

 

[Looney]

Right now I'm writing a fanfic where Lavellan got pregnant (he didn't know) and then tells him he has a daughter. *write all the feelings*

I am probably not goign to finish it so this is why I tell the story here, because I absolutely adore the idea, that his child is an equally powerful, or even more powerful mage then him (or the weakened-through-slumber-him) and that his daughter will ultimately be the one to stop him. Lavellan probably wouldn't tell her of her father, but as a dreamer she would most likely figure it out herself over time (I really have this scene in mind where the child stumbles around in the fade and gets to close to something dangerous and there comes Solas with something like "You shouldn't be here, little one".). Probably going to throw in some Kieran (Morrigans son) too, an older dreamer, first playmate then maybe later love interest... These two could do a lot together. Maybe even stop whatever loony daddy plans to restore the old world...

[Nika]

I think it is really interesting that, though they are the same person, we can almost totally separate the compassionate side of Solas from the dutiful one that is Fen'Harel. 

That kind of makes me think of one of the murals you see. One side he was displayed bright while the other was dark, both combined make him really complex.

I took a lot of screenshots that I still need to look at, speculation time haha   though I guess there's not really anything new there

 

Here are the screenshots, maybe I'll go back to make some better ones

Spoiler

Cassandra kept photobombing me

[TheEggCrusher]

I think it is really interesting that, though they are the same person, we can almost totally separate the compassionate side of Solas from the dutiful one that is Fen'Harel. 

 

I also believe that Solas did not let Lavellan come with him because he fears she would interfere with his plans one way or another. Maybe she'd sabotage his spies, maybe her mere presence would be enough to make him question his beliefs - because she is real, so everyone could be real. And then there is the fact that he is steeling his heart to a cutting edge and he doesn't want her to see that part of him. It's all so tragic. You wake up in a wasteland that you once knew, have to come to terms with the fact that everything you stood for has gone wrong - and one of the first things you do is fall in love with the person that you put into a dangerous position in the first place. I think part of why he couldn't hold back can be explained with his statement "It felt like walking among a world of tranquil." - and then there is that one person that is more than that, which makes you realise there must be more like her. It's as if you are stranded in another country where everything is different from home - and then you find one person that seemingly understands the language that you speak and is so eager to teach you their own...gah! I'm making myself sad again. 

I've only fallen in love once, and it was a lot like this. Like he was a type of person I thought couldn't exist. It was absolutely mind blowing for me, so I think I can relate with Solas in terms of the types of people we fall in love with. 

 

He was the exception to everything I thought was true, and the very fact that a person like him existed tore open my whole perspective. 

 

You've given me all the feels x-x This is also how i picture Solas to feel about Lavellan as well, but it's just so emotional for me because I fell in love the same way irl. 

[Avejajed]

So I'm a little hungover and I have a lot of word vomit to get through as soon as I get to work, but I am so hype. It was awesome and amazing and I loved it and Solas is such an interesting, heartbreaking character and I love how nuanced and open to interpretation he is and I'm just ahhhhhh. Love it. My Lavellan is going to get hers that's for sure. She looked awful determined! Ahhhhhh so excited.

[Avejajed]

Oh my god okay I guess- well first of all, are people mostly posting in the Solas thread or in here? I hate using all the spoiler tags, but I will. I don't want to repeat myself much because I have lot to get out of my head. lol.

[Ajna]

So I'm a little hungover and I have a lot of word vomit to get through as soon as I get to work, but I am so hype. It was awesome and amazing and I loved it and Solas is such an interesting, heartbreaking character and I love how nuanced and open to interpretation he is and I'm just ahhhhhh. Love it. My Lavellan is going to get hers that's for sure. She looked awful determined! Ahhhhhh so excited.

 

Can you stay excited for two years or however long it takes?

 

I finished it this morning, still love the egg, that hasn't changed and I can't see that it ever will. JUST LET US SAVE HIM DAMMIT!

[Moondreamer01]

That kind of makes me think of one of the murals you see. One side he was displayed bright while the other was dark, both combined make him really complex.

I took a lot of screenshots that I still need to look at, speculation time haha   though I guess there's not really anything new there

 

Here are the screenshots, maybe I'll go back to make some better ones

Spoiler

Cassandra kept photobombing me

 

That last mural, though... It looks like Solas was bald even in his Arlathan days lol. (too much feelz, I need the laugh)

[Avejajed]

Can you stay excited for two years or however long it takes?

 

I finished it this morning, still love the egg, that hasn't changed and I can't see that it ever will. JUST LET US SAVE HIM DAMMIT!

 

I'm in it to win it, yo! I have a dragon age tattoo. I'll be here for the next however many years it takes. I'm already like WHERES THE DA4 TWITTER THREAD PLZ

[Tielis]

I just thought I'd post something I made way back when.  

 

 

Oh, and I am I the only one who would play a post-apocalyptic Thedas after he succeeds?

[AllThatJazz]

Optimistic-ish headcanon regarding Solas's motives and the veil. 

 

Regarding Solas expressing the desire to destroy the world, despite the fact that the very idea of it obviously causes him enormous distress and runs so contrary to everything we know about him... what if there truly is no other option?

 

Think of it this way. The veil has obviously caused a great deal of damage to the world. It blocks magic, which means that the magic in Thedas has steadily been dwindling and may eventually cease to exist entirely. (There was something somewhere mentioning that fewer mages are being born into Dalish clans. Mages as a whole are becoming rarer.) On the other hand we have the taint, which has been infesting the world at a steady rate. Magic is often described as a 'song'. The taint is also described as a corrupted song, and there's still the question of 'silence' and what that means. (Possibly the death of the world via the removal of all magic?) What if the taint is the direct result of the veil either a ) blocking magic, or  b ) corrupting it as it passes through from the fade to the physical world? As the magic in Thedas weakens, the blight grows stronger.

 

The veil might even be the void, stretched thin and covering the world. The magic passing through is corrupted by whatever it is in there that sent Andruil bonkers. It could also explain why passing through the veil is so traumatic for demons. They're directly exposed to whatever poison dwells within the void. Shattering the veil a la Corypheus seemed to unleash blight over the whole world at once - whatever was contained within got out. Possibly, Solas has a less blighty but no less catastrophic option for getting rid of it.

 

It could be that lifting/destroying the veil is the only way to eliminate the blight at it's source. Such a connection would also explain why Solas despises the Grey Wardens so much; he knows more about the blight than they do, and their actions may actually be making it worse. If the true source of the blight isn't stopped, eventually it will consume the world, leading to death and ultimate silence. Solas may regard destroying the world as being the only way to save it. (Conveniently restoring the Elves in the process.) However he knows that the act required to save the world will devastate the mortal races, hence his pain and turmoil over what he must do. (Also compounded with the fact that he knows he wants the old world back at the expense of the current one.)

 

Basically, I think there's much more here at stake than Old vs New and Elvhen vs Everyone Else. MUCH more.

This is an amazing post, and is almost exactly what I think too Hopefully throughout the next game, we'll learn of the consequences of Solas NOT going through with his plan (now we know of some of the consequences of what will happen if he succeeds), and the choice of whether to try to stop him or not becomes a lot murkier.

 

Personally, I don't think we'll be able to stop him. I think the veil is coming down regardless (even if we stop Solas, someone else will step out of the shadows to finish what he started), but I think we might be able to 'steer him down a gentler path', allowing some of the past to be restored while preserving the present.

 

Ugh, such a fantastic character. All the kudos to Weekes, and to the guy who does his cinematics (amazing facial expressions) and to Gareth David Lloyd. Between the three of them, they have created something truly special.