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[Dutch's Ghost]

i'm hoping Solas in the DLC grows white hair, Breast and becomes a sarcastic delight, Flemeth can't be dead not like that.

So Caitlyn Jenner without hair dye?

[SomberXIII]

Who da fook is Yavanna? Isn't she some non-canon related character made just for those non-canon crappy comics?

So Caitlyn Jenner without hair dye?

 

Troll rating 1/10.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Probably. Flemeth less and less screen time per game that at this point she barely matters. Also her Voice Actress might be tad bit more expensive.

[Darkstarr11]

I don't think either are dead.  Flemeth LIVES for the backup plan.  I figure she has the whole alphabet covered.  While I admit that the Solas betrayal probably was a surprise, I don't think she's DEAD DEAD...but she may lurk in the shadows for a while.  I mean, the Warden KILLED her...and she had Hawke ready with her backup plan.  Which PROBABLY wasn't the only ONE!  Yavana probably IS her backup plan...or one of them.  She may not have expected Solas to kill her...but she probably expected SOMEONE to at some point.  Probably another Flemeth or two out there...after all, bodies ARE such inconvenient things, right?

[Aren]

What Solas did to Flemeth (willingly or by Mythal wish) doesn't seems to be so healthy,it seems by far something from whom after 2 years she has yet to recover

[Navasha]

No.   Its re-iterated many times through this game as well as the last games that very powerful spirits are essentially truly immortal.   Even after killed they reform in the fade.   Mythal was betrayed and murdered originally remember.    So while I believe she purposefully gave most of her energy to the Dread Wolf, she clearly sent some through the eluvian.    I think it will be the last we see of the Flemeth's body, but she will reappear in another form again. 

[Ranadiel Marius]

Flemythal is dead as an active player in the world. She probably has her plans set up to run on automatic now so she'll get her revenge without being alive. No idea on Yavana.

[Cyrus Amell]

The whole Yavana thing seems a tad convoluted considering her role in the story requires that King Alistair meet up with her and then he later goes all "muahaha I am Princess Stabitty, stab kill kill." Not to mention the arse way they got around to removing King Marric. I was surprised at the amount of book characters and lore that made it into the last game of which I knew only a little from skimming the wikis. If they do include Yavana I will be quite surprised, since they seemed hell-bent on ensuring she could not interfere with the game's set lore in anyway even if it meant making Allistair our in-house Princess Stabbity. 

 

(Alistair Princess Stabbity video below)

[TraiHarder]

Probably. Flemeth less and less screen time per game that at this point she barely matters. Also her Voice Actress might be tad bit more expensive.

What Flemeth got more Screen time in DA:I than she did in DA2

[Andromelek]

The whole Yavana thing seems a tad convoluted considering her role in the story requires that King Alistair meet up with her and then he later goes all "muahaha I am Princess Stabitty, stab kill kill." Not to mention the arse way they got around to removing King Marric. I was surprised at the amount of book characters and lore that made it into the last game of which I knew only a little from skimming the wikis. If they do include Yavana I will be quite surprised, since they seemed hell-bent on ensuring she could not interfere with the game's set lore in anyway even if it meant making Allistair our in-house Princess Stabbity. 
 

The only character from the comics that appeared (via war table) was Maevaris, Titus likely would be killed by either the Qunari or the Black Divine's followers soon or later, but Claudio and Yavana weren't being bothered by anyone else (each other perhaps) but if you remove Alistair Claudio doesn't have his anti-dragon shield to go to the swamps and Yavana doesn't have her treacherous murderer, so they still have a chance (Yavana has best chances).

[TraiHarder]

I don't think either are dead. Flemeth LIVES for the backup plan. I figure she has the whole alphabet covered. While I admit that the Solas betrayal probably was a surprise, I don't think she's DEAD DEAD...but she may lurk in the shadows for a while. I mean, the Warden KILLED her...and she had Hawke ready with her backup plan. Which PROBABLY wasn't the only ONE! Yavana probably IS her backup plan...or one of them. She may not have expected Solas to kill her...but she probably expected SOMEONE to at some point. Probably another Flemeth or two out there...after all, bodies ARE such inconvenient things, right?

I don't believe it was a betrayal. Because I highly doubt Flemthyal would let a man betray her again. It definitely seemed to be more voluntary than anything. If it was betrayal I'd think there would be a huge fight and I doubt Solas was strong enough at the time to take her.

But lol you are right she does live for the comebacks she's like going down her list

"S s s s s s ah Solas. Reappear from a crack in his shiny head yes that's it."

[TraiHarder]

Yeeeeeah, no. They're not gone. Flemeth was not brutally murdered by Solas. She accepted it. She would have made plans to continue her life past that point (like a horcrux). Yavana. I don't know much about Yavana but if she is a Witch of the Wilds, taught by Flemeth, there is a good chance she is still kicking as well.

But I had been shown before that she can have multiple bodies so I wouldn't be surprised if that was just a body to carry information to Solas

[Rappeldrache]

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Thats somehow an ilness of Bioware: They make wonderful things, the create WOW-characters and than .... they let them die, they forget them, they don't "work" with this great ideas anymore.

 

Good example: The Skyhold. What a great Idea ... and what have they done with it? Not a lot ... and in the third DLC they even delete it ....

 

 

I love Flemeth. It's incredible how GREAT she looks. Never have seen an "older women" been more sexy, and scary and mysterious and somehow likeable like her:

 

 

 

[Donk]

i'm hoping Solas in the DLC grows white hair, Breast and becomes a sarcastic delight, Flemeth can't be dead not like that.

 

This is the closest I can give you.

 

[LadyMacTir]

Maybe it is Flemeth who possesses Solas? After he apologizes to her, she says herself "I'm sorry", so maybe she overtakes his body?

And even if it is Solas who "kills" her - I have a headcannon she sent a part of her through the eluvian at the beginning of the post-credits scene. So no, one does not simply kill Flemeth.

[Donk]

Maybe it is Flemeth who possesses Solas? After he apologizes to her, she says herself "I'm sorry", so maybe she overtakes his body?

And even if it is Solas who "kills" her - I have a headcannon she sent a part of her through the eluvian at the beginning of the post-credits scene. So no, one does not simply kill Flemeth.

 

That's the impression I got, as well.

 

Just going on how she possesses her daughters and what not.

[Andreas Amell]

Many people believe that Flemythal was absorbed into Solas towards the end of inquisition.

And if you don't Know Yavana is Flemeths daughter known for dealing with Great Dragons and becoming a Witch of the Wilds herself. She was Stabbed in the stomach buy Alistar presumably killing her.

I just wanted to ask if you think these two very powerful Mages are actually gone?

Flemeth has been a very big background force in the series

While Yavana has proven to be a very powerful mage in her own rights.

 

If Yavana is not mentioned in the game then she's simply non-existent. Bioware has a potentially good characters from their literature that they haven't used yet. 

[TraiHarder]

Maybe it is Flemeth who possesses Solas? After he apologizes to her, she says herself "I'm sorry", so maybe she overtakes his body?

And even if it is Solas who "kills" her - I have a headcannon she sent a part of her through the eluvian at the beginning of the post-credits scene. So no, one does not simply kill Flemeth.

That's what I was thinking as well. But I don't think it's the case.

I also thought maybe it was just a vessel Flemythal created to pass on some knowledge to Solas. I just don't see her being gone lol.

[Andromelek]

If Yavana is not mentioned in the game then she's simply non-existent. Bioware has a potentially good characters from their literature that they haven't used yet.

Yavana exists, just like Claudio, Maevaris and Titus, while they are not directly mentioned, the events on the comics are addressed by Grey Warden Alistair, also, you have her codex entry on WOT2.

[TraiHarder]

If Yavana is not mentioned in the game then she's simply non-existent. Bioware has a potentially good characters from their literature that they haven't used yet.

What? You do know that things like Asunder and such are Canon right? Just because they have yet to appear in a game doesn't mean they are not in the universe. That's like saying Cole and Empress Celine did not exist yet when we know very well they both did.

[Nefla]

I hope so! Flemeth was boring and pointless after DA:O and I've never read the books.

[SomberXIII]

I hope so! Flemeth was boring and pointless after DA:O and I've never read the books.

Oh come on. Lots of people love her. 

[TraiHarder]

I hope so! Flemeth was boring and pointless after DA:O and I've never read the books.

What games were you playing?

She only got better and more badass throughout the series

[Aren]

I hope so! Flemeth was boring and pointless after DA:O and I've never read the books.

 I share somehow your thought,post DAO FLemeth just filled this absurd role of a transcendent draconic being that appears out of nowhere before to disappear

while not making something of substantial in the game.

Although her dialogue are rather interesting 

[TraiHarder]

I share somehow your thought,post DAO FLemeth just filled this absurd role of a transcendent draconic being that appears out of nowhere before to disappear
while not making something of substantial in the game.
Although her dialogue are rather interesting

She's done many substantial things in each game so far what are you talking about?

DA2 she saved the champion of Kirkwall then had them resurrect her so that she could live on.
DA:I did whatever with Solas which we don't really know yet she obviously played a part in Cory having the orb. She also collects the Arch Demons soul if you went that path

All substantial things