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[Lord Gunsmith 90]

I think Flemeth's gone for good, but I may be wrong.

[TraiHarder]

I think Flemeth's gone for good, but I may be wrong.

You are wrong

[leaguer of one]

You are wrong

No he's not. She's dead.

She's not out of the plot but she's dead.

[Aren]

My warden Killed Flemeth, And Solas failing at everything he do, Flemeth know more then Solas, so no I am pretty sure she is alive.

Your warden didn't kill Flemeth just a ghost, leaded by  the Morrigan's blindness,it was a pointless battle.

Flemeth cannot know more than Solas,she is not the original Mythal just a wisp of her power and knowledge,Solas is the complete dread wolf,also you can't know if he truly failed because he never told to anyone of why he decided to show himself into the Dragon age,and why he needed so badly to use the Orb of destruction immediately.

He hasn't provided any answers other than

" i was to weak to unlock it after my slumber"

It should mean everything,he is up for something,how do you know that he is not the one who taught to Corypheus the ritual to use the Orb,

to unlock the anchor that he will now obtain?

How do you know that this is not exactly what he wanted and that now he is in the Dlc just to take the anchor?

People judge to quickly without having the answers.

We don't know the complete story behind Corypheus and Solas,people tend to say that it was to try to help the elves,but it doesn't work without contrived mental gymnastic,he could have waited but he decided to give immediately the Orb to a darkspawn.

[TraiHarder]

No he's not. She's dead.
She's not out of the plot but she's dead.

No he's wrong and so are you. She alive or at least coming back

[Andromelek]

Your warden didn't kill Flemeth just a ghost, leaded by  the Morrigan's blindness,it was a pointless battle.
Flemeth cannot know more than Solas,she is not the original Mythal just a wisp of her power and knowledge,Solas is the complete dread wolf,also you can't know if he truly failed because he never told to anyone of why he decided to show himself into the Dragon age,and why he needed so badly to use the Orb of destruction immediately.
He hasn't provided any answers other than
" i was to weak to unlock it after my slumber"
It should mean everything,he is up for something,how do you know that he is not the one who taught to Corypheus the ritual to use the Orb,
to unlock the anchor that he will now obtain?
How do you know that this is not exactly what he wanted and that now he is in the Dlc just to take the anchor?
People judge to quickly without having the answers.
We don't know the complete story behind Corypheus and Solas,people tend to say that it was to try to help the elves,but it doesn't work without contrived mental gymnastic,he could have waited but he decided to give immediately the Orb to a darkspawn.

I believe that Solas was awoken by the Saarebas that was playing with that mask, also, if he really is that old, perhaps he knew Corypheus as Sethius, when he still was a good man.

[TraiHarder]

Your warden didn't kill Flemeth just a ghost, leaded by the Morrigan's blindness,it was a pointless battle.
Flemeth cannot know more than Solas,she is not the original Mythal just a wisp of her power and knowledge,Solas is the complete dread wolf,also you can't know if he truly failed because he never told to anyone of why he decided to show himself into the Dragon age,and why he needed so badly to use the Orb of destruction immediately.
He hasn't provided any answers other than
" i was to weak to unlock it after my slumber"
It should mean everything,he is up for something,how do you know that he is not the one who taught to Corypheus the ritual to use the Orb,
to unlock the anchor that he will now obtain?
How do you know that this is not exactly what he wanted and that now he is in the Dlc just to take the anchor?
People judge to quickly without having the answers.
We don't know the complete story behind Corypheus and Solas,people tend to say that it was to try to help the elves,but it doesn't work without contrived mental gymnastic,he could have waited but he decided to give immediately the Orb to a darkspawn.

I believe that Flemeth knew just as much as Solas for sure. When was it said that she only has a portion of Mythals knowledge. When she was mainly mythal just in another body.

As for Cory and the Orb and Anchor he said he created the Anchor I believe he created it without the Orb. It was just the Orb that gave him enough power to use it properly to open a way back to the City.

I don't much believe that Cory and Solas actually had any interaction I'm sure he found a way to give him the orb without him knowing it was him.

I would like to know Cory's story along with the other Magisters.

A theory of mine is that the Olds god's were also Elven god's and these were the forgotten ones that he locked away on earth underground. And the other Elven god's were locked away in the Heavens or The Makers City by force making it go Black. This would explain why it was black before The Magisters got there.

[Call Me Jord]

Flemeth is gone in the sense of the person who governed the Goddess Flemeth is gone. As well as Kate Mulgrew and her powerful voice that brought this character to life.

 

But she'll return in the future. In one form or another, at least I hope so. During the events of Inquisition, she obviously made plans for her well-being. Like in Origins and DA2. Or was it just DA2, I can never remember.

[TraiHarder]

Flemeth is gone in the sense of the person who governed the Goddess Flemeth is gone. As well as Kate Mulgrew and her powerful voice that brought this character to life.

But she'll return in the future. In one form or another, at least I hope so. During the events of Inquisition, she obviously made plans for her well-being. Like in Origins and DA2. Or was it just DA2, I can never remember.

Flemeth and Mythal mainly became one I don't believe they will ever actually split. It's not like we haven't seen Flemeth been able to have multiple bodies. In DA2 she was resurrected but didn't truly know if her 'original' body was killed but was sure it probably was.

So I think she's still alive or coming back at least along with Yavana

[ApostleinTriumph]

I think if they ever replace Kate Mulgrew, they should look no farther than Sara Kestelman, who voiced Kreia in KOTOR II. She put an amazing performance on her, and I think she would also do great with Flemeth, since the characters are pretty similar in certain respects.

 

By the way, has anyone else thought that the 'daughters' of Flemeth may actually have been her servants throughout the ages she just takes over when she feels like they are of no use and she needs another body? Since they willingly drank from the well, they would not be 'unwilling'.

[TraiHarder]

I think if they ever replace Kate Mulgrew, they should look no farther than Sara Kestelman, who voiced Kreia in KOTOR II. She put an amazing performance on her, and I think she would also do great with Flemeth, since the characters are pretty similar in certain respects.

By the way, has anyone else thought that the 'daughters' of Flemeth may actually have been her servants throughout the ages she just takes over when she feels like they are of no use and she needs another body? Since they willingly drank from the well, they would not be 'unwilling'.

Why would her daughters drink from the well? And they never have from my knowledge.

But no I don't think they are Flemeth even explained that she can't take the body of a unwilling person as you pointed out. An if they haven't drunk from the well then they would be unwilling.

An each daughter have went and done their own thing. Morrigan with her travels in DA:O an having her child. While Yavana brought back the Great Dragons and forced out Qunari forces.

Now has Flemeth had had influence in what they do probably I wouldn't put it past her.

[Dai Grepher]

I don't think anything in the DA:I ending indicates that Solas absorbed whatever energies were inside of "Flemeth". Looks more like he forced the energies out and they drifted into the eluvian. That was probably another fake Flemeth.

 

As for Yavana, Alistair is a drunk in my world state, so he likely never even met her. Or if he did, he probably didn't have the guts to run hers through. Even if she went up against a hardened king, the great dragon probably healed her somehow.

[Andromelek]

I think if they ever replace Kate Mulgrew, they should look no farther than Sara Kestelman, who voiced Kreia in KOTOR II. She put an amazing performance on her, and I think she would also do great with Flemeth, since the characters are pretty similar in certain respects.
 
By the way, has anyone else thought that the 'daughters' of Flemeth may actually have been her servants throughout the ages she just takes over when she feels like they are of no use and she needs another body? Since they willingly drank from the well, they would not be 'unwilling'.

I don't think they are servants, at least Yavana has a shocking resemblance to her mother, except that younger, slightly taller and muscular, also, as Morrigan proved, if someone drinks from the well, will be forced to follow Mythal's command but not has to be agree with it, Yavana follows her duty willingly, she is even aware that Flemeth didn't chose her as heiress but she shows no anger for that, I really feel sorry for her, her Dragon showed more concern for her than her mother.

[TraiHarder]

I don't think anything in the DA:I ending indicates that Solas absorbed whatever energies were inside of "Flemeth". Looks more like he forced the energies out and they drifted into the eluvian. That was probably another fake Flemeth.

As for Yavana, Alistair is a drunk in my world state, so he likely never even met her. Or if he did, he probably didn't have the guts to run hers through. Even if she went up against a hardened king, the great dragon probably healed her somehow.

I don't believe they were forced. I doubt Solas would ever challenge and even if so definitely not at that time when he was weaker than usual or at least his full powered self. I believe she passed on knowledge of some sort to him to further aid him. But I doubt with her taking the arch demon soul she'd give something like that up to him(that is if you had the baby but I mean who didn't wanna get freaky with Morrigan)

[TraiHarder]

I don't think they are servants, at least Yavana has a shocking resemblance to her mother, except that younger, slightly taller and muscular, also, as Morrigan proved, if someone drinks from the well, will be forced to follow Mythal's command but not has to be agree with it, Yavana follows her duty willingly, she is even aware that Flemeth didn't chose her as heiress but she shows no anger for that, I really feel sorry for her, her Dragon showed more concern for her than her mother.

Lol Yea I love Yavanas look I really would love for her to show up in a actual game an then give me her armor and staff lol.

But Yea even tho she isn't her mother's chosen she has still done great things if her own. Do I believe her mother doesn't watch her at all or hasn't influenced things she's done like Morrigon no. I'm sure she's influenced her a bit. But for the main part it's mainly been Yavana doing amazing things with Great Dragons.

And I also believe that she set aside a part of her soul or something inside the Queen Dragon so that I could revive her or something along those lines seeing as they aren't just regular high dragons.

I believe they both have plans to return just go pen that they are soon

[Dai Grepher]

I don't believe they were forced. I doubt Solas would ever challenge and even if so definitely not at that time when he was weaker than usual or at least his full powered self. I believe she passed on knowledge of some sort to him to further aid him. But I doubt with her taking the arch demon soul she'd give something like that up to him(that is if you had the baby but I mean who didn't wanna get freaky with Morrigan)

 

I think he knew what he was challenging. That was just a fake Flemeth that was already weak having put so much energy into the eluvian already. Also, Solas had regained some of his powers, as can be seen by his glowing eyes.

 

I don't think she passed anything on to him. This is never indicated by any of the animations. Besides, it was Solas who acted with his green aura emanation. That affected Flemeth in a negative way, and she let out a sound of shock. This means it was an aggressive action.

 

She most likely did whatever she was going to do with the old god soul right after she got it from Kieran.

 

My Hero King didn't. Morrigan was never his type, and aside from being betrothed to Queen Anora, he would not have done or even allowed Loghain to do the Dark Ritual for numerous moral reasons.

[TraiHarder]

I think he knew what he was challenging. That was just a fake Flemeth that was already weak having put so much energy into the eluvian already. Also, Solas had regained some of his powers, as can be seen by his glowing eyes.

I don't think she passed anything on to him. This is never indicated by any of the animations. Besides, it was Solas who acted with his green aura emanation. That affected Flemeth in a negative way, and she let out a sound of shock. This means it was an aggressive action.

She most likely did whatever she was going to do with the old god soul right after she got it from Kieran.

My Hero King didn't. Morrigan was never his type, and aside from being betrothed to Queen Anora, he would not have done or even allowed Loghain to do the Dark Ritual for numerous moral reasons.

I in now way believed it was forced for Solas to essentially betray and attack Flemythal would most likely mean death for him seeing as she is seeking revenge on those that betrayed her. And being a man at that would ****** her off even more and Solas isn't that dumb.

I believe it was just knowledge.

And what how in the world do you get that he regained some of his power due to glowing eyes he's a freaking mage every mage can make their eyes glow lol

[Dai Grepher]

The only other example of the eye glow is in Abelas if he tries to destroy the Well, and his last word in that case is "Mythal". So it was probably Mythal controlling him through the compulsion. Or it's just an ancient elf thing. But as Fen'Harel, Solas can do it too. Plus, the green aura indicates that he regained some unknown ability.

[TraiHarder]

The only other example of the eye glow is in Abelas if he tries to destroy the Well, and his last word in that case is "Mythal". So it was probably Mythal controlling him through the compulsion. Or it's just an ancient elf thing. But as Fen'Harel, Solas can do it too. Plus, the green aura indicates that he regained some unknown ability.

Your really over thinking this lol THEY ARE MAGES THEY CAN GLOW. Anders eyes Glowed when he turned into justice. An I'm sure if we look back we can find other instances such as when makes use blood magic.

And they both glowed I believe can't remember every moment then Flemeths body disappeared this I believe was Solas absorbing whatever she gave him

[Dai Grepher]

Anders is different. It wasn't just his eyes that did it. There were also cracks that ran through his face that emitted light. It wasn't really a glow in the same fashion.

 

Except Flemeth's eyes didn't glow, and none of the blue energy that left Flemeth's body went to Solas. It all went through the eluvian.

[TraiHarder]

Anders is different. It wasn't just his eyes that did it. There were also cracks that ran through his face that emitted light. It wasn't really a glow in the same fashion.

Except Flemeth's eyes didn't glow, and none of the blue energy that left Flemeth's body went to Solas. It all went through the eluvian.

Really? No. Not really different I would have accepted because he has a spirit inside of him more than that lol.

But I think of the glowing eyes as data transfer successful type thing lol. Glowing eyes shouldn't be your go to for him getting his powers back. I mean honestly not of everything he's a freaking mage come on if they can summon lighting and blizzards they can make their eyes glow lol.

I believe it could have been more him getting whatever information from the body or whatever it was the Flemeth wanted him to have from the body.

But I love how much your thinking about this though

[Kakistos_]

I doubt very much that either of them is dead, especially Flemeth. She has already cheated death once. Well... many times actually. I would not be the least bit surprised that at some point in DA4, Flemeth just shows up like nothing happened and proceeds to help the new hero while belting out a string of cryptic one liners.

[TraiHarder]

I doubt very much that either of them is dead, especially Flemeth. She has already cheated death once. Well... many times actually. I would not be the least bit surprised that at some point in DA4, Flemeth just shows up like nothing happened and proceeds to help the new hero while belting out a string of cryptic one liners.

I really want them to also give Yavana a chance and put her in the next game. I mean they have to introduce Great Dragons at some point. And I believe she's just an amazing character all around. She also in shrouded in mystery just like her mother and sister of course

[9TailsFox]

 

Your warden didn't kill Flemeth just a ghost, leaded by  the Morrigan's blindness,it was a pointless battle.

Flemeth cannot know more than Solas,she is not the original Mythal just a wisp of her power and knowledge,Solas is the complete dread wolf,also you can't know if he truly failed because he never told to anyone of why he decided to show himself into the Dragon age,and why he needed so badly to use the Orb of destruction immediately.

He hasn't provided any answers other than

" i was to weak to unlock it after my slumber"

It should mean everything,he is up for something,how do you know that he is not the one who taught to Corypheus the ritual to use the Orb,

to unlock the anchor that he will now obtain?

How do you know that this is not exactly what he wanted and that now he is in the Dlc just to take the anchor?

People judge to quickly without having the answers.

We don't know the complete story behind Corypheus and Solas,people tend to say that it was to try to help the elves,but it doesn't work without contrived mental gymnastic,he could have waited but he decided to give immediately the Orb to a darkspawn.

 

Exactly we know nothing and you talking like you know everything. And Solas don't even know Croy is immortal. Flemeth have power to predict future, she know dark ritual. Call Flemeth ghost or spirit or whatever you want she is Mythal. She have magical pool of knowledge. And how many times she was killed and still alive. We know only 2 original Mythal killed still alive, Felmeth killed by warden still alive.

And why Solas need power of someone who is "a wisp of her power and knowledge" He get Flemeths power so according to you he get not much so why bother at all for scraps of power, just pick any other mage.

[Darkstarr11]

Remember, she said that she and Mythal were one.  You could no more separate her from Flemeth than you could your heart from your chest, or something to that effect.  What is most likely happening is they are putting her on the back burner.  This way, they can bring her back when it works for the plot.  Her death probably did little to derail her plans, if they even slowed them down.  It was said (but you know they backtrack at times) that she placed a portion of her power aside for Morrigan, for some purpose.  Also, the amulet from DAII, which brought her back.  

 

So, she's 'dead'.  Will she stay that way?  Only until the plot needs her back.  I don't doubt that SOMEONE is going to say...