I understand that Solas was the Dread Wolf Elven god, Fen'Harel, and in a fantastic stroke of poor judgement gave his orb to Corypheus because he couldn't activate it, but there's a couple things I don't understand.
1, assuming he planned on getting it back after Corypheus activated the orb, what did Solas intend to do with it?
2, what happened at the end with Flemmeth/Mythal? Did she take over his body or did he absorb her into his to increase his power?
Well he expects you to have questions after all. 
1, assuming he planned on getting it back after Corypheus activated the orb, what did Solas intend to do with it?
Use it as a paperweight, your guess is as good as anybody else's. It was broken after all.
2, what happened at the end with Flemmeth/Mythal? Did she take over his body or did he absorb her into his to increase his power?
Not known at this point. The common theory is that Solas absorbed Flemeth/Mythal. Trespasser may or may not answer this question.
Use it as a paperweight, your guess is as good as anybody else's. It was broken after all.
No you misunderstand. He gave the orb to Corypheus because he couldn't activate it himself due to his weakened state. I presume he intended Corypheus to activate it then return it to him, though how he tracked down Corypheus or why he would expect Corypheus to help him, I don't know. So my question is, if Corypheus had simply activated the orb then returned it to Solas, unbroken and functional, what would Solas had done with it?
No you misunderstand. He gave the orb to Corypheus because he couldn't activate it himself due to his weakened state. I presume he intended Corypheus to activate it then return it to him, though how he tracked down Corypheus or why he would expect Corypheus to help him, I don't know. So my question is, if Corypheus had simply activated the orb then returned it to Solas, unbroken and functional, what would Solas had done with it?
We're not even entirely sure why he gave it to him in the first place. Maybe he gave it to him before Cory went and corrupted the Golden City. It's unlikely he would have given it to him afterwards. One look at Corypheus and you can tell he'll be up to no good.
No you misunderstand. He gave the orb to Corypheus because he couldn't activate it himself due to his weakened state. I presume he intended Corypheus to activate it then return it to him, though how he tracked down Corypheus or why he would expect Corypheus to help him, I don't know. So my question is, if Corypheus had simply activated the orb then returned it to Solas, unbroken and functional, what would Solas had done with it?
We don't know that either - neither the full potential of the orb nor Solas' intentions. Anyway, he couldn't realistically have expected that Corypheus would just give it back to him. After C used the orb on the Divine the orb was broken so it became more or less useless.
We don't know that either - neither the full potential of the orb nor Solas' intentions. Anyway, he couldn't realistically have expected that Corypheus would just give it back to him. After C used the orb on the Divine the orb was broken so it became more or less useless.
Did we play the same game? The orb wasn't broken until the final battle with Corypheus, then the Inquisitor used it to seal the breach permanently. Until that point Corypheus had been shown to use it multiple times and it was intact and fully functional while in Corypheus's possession. Either it broke then and there when the Inquisitor used it or the falling rocks smashed it.
I believe that one of the likeliest theories is that Solas/the dread wolf was instrumental in whatever happened to the ancient elves and the ancient elven Gods; that he made a decision which had unintended consequences and wants to reverse the results.
This has something to do with the fade: Solas' dialogue suggests that he does not regard the barrier between the physical world and the fade as necessarily a good thing and may try to effect it in some way. Hence trying to unlock the power of the orb, which as we know can be used to tear holes in the barrier and let the wielder walk in the fade. What the orbs' full potential is, we don't know, because we know very little about it or how exactly Coryfish was going to use it to become a "God".
I would really recommend going on the dragon age wiki and reading Solas' dialogue, especially with Cole - it's really informative and you'll get the sources for the above statements that I'm too lazy to go forage myself!
Solas want open fade he actually tells you in game. He is fascinated about fade he want's to restore what's lost
"Imagine if spirits were not a rarity but a part of our natural world like... a fast-flowing river. Yes, it can drown careless children, but it can also carry a merchant's goods or grind a miller's flour. That is what the world could be if the Veil were not present. For better or worse."
So basically Solas want same think as Cory remove veil. Except Solas is good, he don't want become god and people die.
He gave Cory orb to open it because he can't. Solas fought explosion would kill Cory, and it did, but one small problem Cory is immortal. So he joined Inquisition to fix his mess.
"No real god need prove himself. Anyone who tries is mad or lying."
1. Flemythal send something through eluvian, maybe part of her or her soul to Morrigan.
2. Most likely Solas took raw power from Mythal what's left of her. Maybe she gave it freely or Solas steal it we don't know much speculations not much facts.
Did we play the same game? The orb wasn't broken until the final battle with Corypheus, then the Inquisitor used it to seal the breach permanently. Until that point Corypheus had been shown to use it multiple times and it was intact and fully functional while in Corypheus's possession. Either it broke then and there when the Inquisitor used it or the falling rocks smashed it.
During the attack on Haven Corypheus tries to take back the anchor from Inky but discovers it is permanent, in other words the Inquisitor accidentally broke the orb when stumbling in and interrupting Corypheus' rite with the Divine.
During the attack on Haven Corypheus tries to take back the anchor from Inky but discovers it is permanent, in other words the Inquisitor accidentally broke the orb when stumbling in and interrupting Corypheus' rite with the Divine.
Orb was fine all game at the end it broke because Cory overcharged it.
Corypheus states during the Haven meeting:
"I have come for the anchor" and later
"The anchor is permanent, you have spoiled it with your stumbling. So be it. I will begin again"
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During the attack on Haven Corypheus tries to take back the anchor from Inky but discovers it is permanent, in other words the Inquisitor accidentally broke the orb when stumbling in and interrupting Corypheus' rite with the Divine.
It doesn't break until the end of the game as already stated. It chose the Inqusitor when they touched it and they gained its power. I'm guessing it's a "whoever touches it is chosen" sort of thing. It breaks only after the Inqusitor uses it to seal the Breach. All its remainin power goes into closing it, along with the Mark on their hand. That much power was obviously too much for it.
It doesn't break until the end of the game as already stated. It chose the Inqusitor when they touched it and they gained its power. I'm guessing it's a "whoever touches it is chosen" sort of thing. It breaks only after the Inqusitor uses it to seal the Breach. All its remainin power goes into closing it, along with the Mark on their hand. That much power was obviously too much for it.
But from Corypheus' point of view it is essentially broken, at least part of its power was transferred into the anchor (i.e. Inky's mark). In his quote I posted above he even says you spoiled it and he has to begin anew.
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But from Corypheus' point of view it is essentially broken, at least part of its power was transferred into the anchor (i.e. Inky's mark). In his quote I posted above he even says you spoiled it and he has to begin anew.
Yeah it's not broken, but spoiled as in he can't use it because he can't remove it from the Inqusitor. When it splits in half, then it's officially broken lol
Well, seeing as he's the "trickster" god. My guess is that he learned of Cory through his fade wanderings and conveniently left the Orb someplace where Cory would find it. Then just had to wait for the inevitable attempt at re-activating it. Pretty sure Solas fully expected the release of energy upon activation to kill Cory and Solas, who was definitely following Cory, could just stroll over and pick it up after the blast.
Its pretty clear from his commentary with you that he was baffled that Cory somehow survived the blast and that the orb was missing.
Its clear that he regretted whatever role he played in tricking the elven pantheon into exile and what then subsequently became of the elven people. Thus he probably would have used the power of the orb to fix that in some way. Opening whatever "doorway" he locked them behind. Some see his actions as malicious, but I don't think that's the case. He was simply acting in a way to get his power back and try to undo his mistake(s) of the past.
As for Mythal. I believe the transference of energy was consensual. Mythal is the mother protector after all and seems to have a gift for foresight. Perhaps everything she has been doing for all these years is acquiring the energy the Dread Wolf would need to get his power back so that he can right his wrong and bring back the past glory of the elves.
I understand that Solas was the Dread Wolf Elven god, Fen'Harel, and in a fantastic stroke of poor judgement gave his orb to Corypheus because he couldn't activate it, but there's a couple things I don't understand.
1, assuming he planned on getting it back after Corypheus activated the orb, what did Solas intend to do with it?
2, what happened at the end with Flemmeth/Mythal? Did she take over his body or did he absorb her into his to increase his power?
The Anchor is what is broken/spoiled, not the Orb.But from Corypheus' point of view it is essentially broken, at least part of its power was transferred into the anchor (i.e. Inky's mark). In his quote I posted above he even says you spoiled it and he has to begin anew.
IMO the odds seem to be in favor of Solas's end game being to remove the Veil to restore the world go its original state.
The Anchor is what is broken/spoiled, not the Orb.
The anchor is spoiled because it's bonded to the Inquisitor. The orb is broken at the end.
My current pet theory is that the orb allows Solas/ Fen'harel to separate safely. Fen'harel came across Solas in the Fade after locking away the other gods and judged him to be a strong enough Mage that he could hide out for awhile. Without the orb, Solas is stuck with a god in him possibly forever, and Fen'harel probably doesn't have enough power while tied to a mortal body to complete whatever plan he has in mind.
Mythal sees that he's going after the orb for this reason and decides to hop over for the ride leaving and killing Flemeth in the process. She must see a way to solve and avenge her murder. That was one thread they just dropped and never picked up. At least to me, it doesn't look like he's expecting the transfer. Now boyfriend"s got two gods, who probably don't get along super well with each other wandering around inside of him, which has to cause a lot of strain. Honestly, I think this is it for him. Releasing two gods is going to be too much for him to handle and bye bye boyfriend.
I understand that Solas was the Dread Wolf Elven god, Fen'Harel, and in a fantastic stroke of poor judgement gave his orb to Corypheus because he couldn't activate it, but there's a couple things I don't understand.
1, assuming he planned on getting it back after Corypheus activated the orb, what did Solas intend to do with it?
2, what happened at the end with Flemmeth/Mythal? Did she take over his body or did he absorb her into his to increase his power?
I have so many questions about what happened. But in particular, I want to know what was supposed to happen at the sacrificing of The Divine. What was Corypheus supposed to do with the orb, was this bit of sacrificial magic part of Solas' plan? At what point did Cory divert from Solas' original plan? If Solas worked so much to close the breach, what was the Foci supposed to do?
Ultimately, I just want to know what his plan truly was in terms of giving the orb to a psychopathic and unpredictable relic. Solas is supposed to be one of the most intelligent characters given all the lore about his wisdom and trickster ways. It seems like too obvious of a bad move to have made even for the most simple minded of characters.
All of this becomes much more relevant with the eluvian plot it seems to be taking now.
I understand that Solas was the Dread Wolf Elven god, Fen'Harel, and in a fantastic stroke of poor judgement gave his orb to Corypheus because he couldn't activate it, but there's a couple things I don't understand.
1, assuming he planned on getting it back after Corypheus activated the orb, what did Solas intend to do with it?
2, what happened at the end with Flemmeth/Mythal? Did she take over his body or did he absorb her into his to increase his power?
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One possibility would be that Solas wanted Cory's plan to happen. In other words, Solas needed someone to get into the Oil City and Cory seemed to have the motivation and the power to use the Orb. So the plan only sent South when the Inq interfered, thereby creating the Breach.I have so many questions about what happened. But in particular, I want to know what was supposed to happen at the sacrificing of The Divine. What was Corypheus supposed to do with the orb, was this bit of sacrificial magic part of Solas' plan? At what point did Cory divert from Solas' original plan? If Solas worked so much to close the breach, what was the Foci supposed to do?
Ultimately, I just want to know what his plan truly was in terms of giving the orb to a psychopathic and unpredictable relic. Solas is supposed to be one of the most intelligent characters given all the lore about his wisdom and trickster ways. It seems like too obvious of a bad move to have made even for the most simple minded of characters.
All of this becomes much more relevant with the eluvian plot it seems to be taking now.
The Anchor is what is broken/spoiled, not the Orb.
The anchor is spoiled because it's bonded to the Inquisitor. The orb is broken at the end.
The anchor is the orb. Why else would Coryphesheet bother to go after Inky in Haven.
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