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#126
Lady Artifice

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My suggestion:

 

Heterosexual white males who feel they are not adequately represented by Bioware games should go play the hundreds of other games designed to pander specifically to white heterosexual males.

 

My other suggestion:

 

We should all avoid feeding whiny troll threads created by posters who are desperate for attention.

 

Just sayin'......

 

Consider me duly chastised.

 

I do, after all, know better.

 


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Heathen Oxman

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Consider me duly chastised.

 

I do, after all, know better.

 

 

Don't worry.

 

I was including myself in my comment, too.  :lol:

 

Being a message board junkie, I know it's pointless to engage buffoonery, but I still do.  As punishment, I shall abuse my own liver with sub-par, p_sswater beer throughout this Labor Day weekend.


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I am not saying that Bioware should not pander to males, but I am also suggesting that they do not forget that males make up their majority demographic. If Witcher 3 is to be anything to go by, it is that making a game with the male player in mind is still a profitable move. Also, while games like COD and Halo 5 features female characters.....the male in those games still remains to be the main protagonist and hero. Fallout 4 allows you to play as a female, but it was the male that they use in promotional material.

And GTA5 sold like 50+ million units and all 3 protagonist were male....

http://www.vg247.com...c-ps4-xbox-one/
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#129
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So this is basically a bunch of worrying about something that Bio's shown no sign of doing anyway? Or am I suppose to believe that those DAI players who got their panties in a twist over the romances were on to something?
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#130
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Yeah, I'm not really sure what this thread is about.  The OP and a few others are insisting that Bioware continue to 'pander' to players who play male PCs.  Which, as far as I know, isn't something that's going to change.  It's been that way from the beginning and continues to be that way.  No one wants to say anything specific, so it's all these vague statements that mean nothing.  I think it's tied to the hyperbole around how much content there is for females in DA:I, but I'm not really sure exactly.  It certainly can't be drawing from the ME series because that was definitely skewed to male PCs.  I don't think there's anyone in the thread who says that the majority of players won't chose male PCs or that marketing to male players is unprofitable, but that's what people keep reiterating over and over.  Who knows, frankly.  I think the OP was trying to be clever and got in over his head, frankly.


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So this is basically a bunch of worrying about something that Bio's shown no sign of doing anyway? Or am I suppose to believe that those DAI players who got their panties jockstraps in a twist over the romances were on to something?


FTFY.
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#132
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Except the 3.8% who shot Mordin.

 

Those bastards.

 

10/10 would do it again.


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10/10 would do it again.

And twice on Sunday.



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I would prefer a Poster Girl character over a poster boy character any day!  There were enough femshep fans to get the reveal trailer redone with a female character so 18% my ass.



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Majestic Jazz

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I would prefer a Poster Girl character over a poster boy character any day! There were enough femshep fans to get the reveal trailer redone with a female character so 18% my ass.


Again, you are confusing the dedicated Bioware online community to that of the general population of those who bought ME3. Not everyone who bought ME3 follows Bioware or Mass Effect on facebook. Not everyone who bought ME3 visits the forums.

Again, you can deny or twist the facts to support your stance but at the end of the day, players generally would rather play with a male character than a female character in Bioware games.
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So?


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We should also be mindful that not all data points are equal in terms of $$ for EA.

 

I don't know what EA's internal data says about merchandise sales, so I have no idea what direction they should go into.

 

I introduced ME to a friend who I knew would love it.  And she did.  She just went on a spending spree this summer and bought a slew of ME merchandise that I would never even consider buying (jackets and stuff).  So, at the end of the day, even though we both bought the games, she has given EA much more money than I have.

 

The reason this is pertinent is that the FTP model is built entirely around the idea that small, rabid segments of the fanbase can account for the vast majority of the company's revenue.

 

I don't know what direction they should take, because I don't know their data.  How much money does ME make on game sales vs. merchandise sales, for example?  What segments purchase, how much do they purchase, what kinds of goods do they purchase, etc.  That should have an effect, from a business perspective at least, on who they market their products to.  I have no idea what the answer to that is though, because I don't have that info.



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And GTA5 sold like 50+ million units and all 3 protagonist were male....http://www.vg247.com...c-ps4-xbox-one/


Because you have no choice if you want to play GTA. I for one have been waiting for a playable female character since the dawn of time.

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Here's the full infographic:

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Going by this, they should clearly pander to fans of Liara and the asari before all else.

 

These numbers don't make sense to me. If you didn't meet Wrex in ME3 wouldn't you have had to shoot him on Virmire? If you didn't cure the genophage (8%) and you did meet Wrex (36%), wouldn't you have had to shoot Mordin (3.8%)?



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These numbers don't make sense to me. If you didn't meet Wrex in ME3 wouldn't you have had to shoot him on Virmire? If you didn't cure the genophage (8%) and you did meet Wrex (36%), wouldn't you have had to shoot Mordin (3.8%)?

 

Not everyone played all three games, I'd assume those numbers are for the choices players deliberately made.

 

I don't think Wrex even shows up if you ignored him in ME.



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I'm being perfectly serious: I genuinely had no idea that anyone thought that any class other than the Infiltrator was the most OP in the game. O.O

Infiltrator is pathetic when compared to Vanguard.

Vanguard is immortal and deals insane amount of damage.

 

Hell, every biotic class is better than Infiltrator. 

 

And soldiers just shoot. I mean, weapons in Mass Effect 3 are not worth even looking at, with those insanely low cooldowns on overpowered biotics. 

 

 

These numbers don't make sense to me. If you didn't meet Wrex in ME3 wouldn't you have had to shoot him on Virmire? If you didn't cure the genophage (8%) and you did meet Wrex (36%), wouldn't you have had to shoot Mordin (3.8%)?

What's wrong with that? Slightly less than half of the people who didn't cure the genophage, killed Mordin. Those 3.8% were among those 36% of people who had Wrex in their games. Everything's fine here. 

 

Apart from that, I have no idea what this thread is about. 



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How about most people didn't have Wrex because they didn't import a save game.

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Everytime a guy hears that I love to play games too and it is perfectly okay to spend a day and night with a great and addicting new rpg game it is always like YES AWESOME LET'S DO IT. WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING NICE TO EAT, TOO. And then when I log in and go online looking for a smart discussion about my favorite console game ever gamers here and there react to my gender as OH MY NO YOU ARE RUINING THE GAME CULTURE. NOBODY IS FOCUSING TO THE WHITE MALE CHARACTERS ANYMORE. EVERY SECOND CHARACTER IS NOW A BISEXUAL BECAUSE OF THE FEMINISTS.

I really wasn't looking for this kind of discussion.

I don't know where I really should go to look for it anymore.

But definitely

*I should go*


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Back to ruining game culture? Huh? Huh?!



#145
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Alright, alright guys.... let's *PANDER* and let's go beyond the data presented in the OP.

 

Now, according to taboo statistics, the world is made up of a majority of dickheads. Coming second to that, and a very close percentage, is arseholes.

 

Catering to the small minority of pus*ies, however, would be ineffective for marketing, because pus*ies are too afraid to do anything about anything, so are left behind. In which some form of government body or rather, needs to take note of and form some kinda taxpayer funded support group.

 

But that's another story. So BioWare, be reminded that to make money, you need to pander to dickheads and arseholes.

 

This could be implemented, by making Andromedan humans slightly alien to normal humans, with weenies on their foreheads instead of between the legs. Some sort of advanced technology would allow thermal clips in the danglybag, so it doesn't overheat while shooting the enemy, which will be the arsehole.

 

The arsehole will also be a playable race, with arsths for facthes. Their primary class of combat will come in the form of biotic farts.

 

This will make a great MMO. Use the microtransaction model, but make it free to play and punish those leeches for not spending any money. Make it so they can't get past the prologue of "story" content, until they subscribe monthly.


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#146
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I don't really know what this thread is about either...

 

 

 

I'm for as much choice for as many people as possible. 

 

I think skimpy armor is silly, unrealistic and boring. 

 

I don't mind some raunchy nudity at the appropriate time. 

 

I think everyone being bi is silly, unrealistic and boring. 

 

PS: Last bit includes playersexual, because I like the idea of being able to be completely "flirty"/joky with someone, that is completely locked out of romance, because we're simply not into eachother that way. 



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These numbers don't make sense to me. If you didn't meet Wrex in ME3 wouldn't you have had to shoot him on Virmire? If you didn't cure the genophage (8%) and you did meet Wrex (36%), wouldn't you have had to shoot Mordin (3.8%)?

Remember, only 50% of ME2 players imported ME1 saves according to Bio tracking data, and only 39.8 % of ME3 players got the LSM achievement from importing once and completing or completing twice

If you didn't play ME1, Wrex is dead (IIRC it's not clear how). If you didn't play ME2, Shepard didn't do Mordin's LM, so Eve can't survive. Without Wrex or Eve alive, Shepard can talk Mordin out of curing the genophage instead of shooting him.
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Remember, only 50% of ME2 players imported ME1 saves according to Bio tracking data, and only 39.8 % of ME3 players got the LSM achievement from importing once and completing or completing twice

If you didn't play ME1, Wrex is dead (IIRC it's not clear how). If you didn't play ME2, Shepard didn't do Mordin's LM, so Eve can't survive. Without Wrex or Eve alive, Shepard can talk Mordin out of curing the genophage instead of shooting him.

 

Side not I almost always shoot wrex I sometimes give Ashley the nod to shoot wrex.  I doubt I'm alone of this.  My roleplaying choice is based on the dialogue presented not by being given the magic red or blue get out of all your problems buttons. so yeah, you didn't import and are a new player add in a decent sized group of people who shot him out of roleplaying reasons, or if you only played through once you might not have dumped enough points into the magic blue button skill to have a choice. Yeah nut jobs like me play enough NG+ to get all the persuasion and intimidate skills maxed for free, but that is probably the vast minority. And while I frequently would dump a lot of points into those skills in other bioware games I can see a lot of people when given the choice shoot people better skill or talk better skill maxing the shoot skill first.



#149
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Wut? That's exactly what companies do.

 

Not successful ones. Running a business based on raw data is about as wise as eating raw meat.


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#150
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What about me im black am i included in your not so subtle shpeel?

 

You know someone has reached the point of desperation when they play the race card in a discussion that had nothing to do with race (is there such an equivalent for Godwin's Law?)  :lol:

 

I admit that I didn't notice the specification that they were "white." I don't think it actually impacts the intended point any, but it did refer to race.