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[Mdizzletr0n]

First and foremost, how can you be an N7 and not be battle tested? Aren't they essentially the best of the best? Is that decided by a random test score or something?

Secondly, if it's about exploration and finding a new home or whatever. Why wouldn't a scientist lead the expedition? Sure, you may need fire power but that's essentially mercs or soldiers as security.

[Zekka]

The guy in the trailer isn't the protagonist and I don't even think he's a squad character. I'm thinking Bio is throwing around the "N7" title as a thing because it is memorable throughout the series.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I believe Bioware said that we won't be an N7, but "will have something to do with N7". I know the person in the trailer is not the protagonist. 

 

A lot of scientists in the Mass Effect universe have at least some combat training. Just look at Liara, Amanda Kenson, or Mordin. 

[Zekka]

Now that I think about it, if the player is not an N7 this will change gameplay and story in a different way and could create new things. It means that the player doesn't even have to be someone with complete military background and would introduce new skills into the game.

[Jaquio]

Merchandising.  The N7 logo is good branding.  It helps sell jackets, sweatshirts, wallets, keychains, shoes, pants, leggings, keyboards, mousepads, coffee mugs, tote bags, backpacks, etc.

 

They'll make it work, story-wise.  It's just the reality of business.

[Chealec]

First and foremost, how can you be an N7 and not be battle tested? Aren't they essentially the best of the best? Is that decided by a random test score or something?

Secondly, if it's about exploration and finding a new home or whatever. Why wouldn't a scientist lead the expedition? Sure, you may need fire power but that's essentially mercs or soldiers as security.

 

*sighs*

 

https://en.wikipedia...nder_(military)

[dreamgazer]

First and foremost, how can you be an N7 and not be battle tested? Aren't they essentially the best of the best? Is that decided by a random test score or something?

Who says they aren't battle-tested?
 

Secondly, if it's about exploration and finding a new home or whatever. Why wouldn't a scientist lead the expedition? Sure, you may need fire power but that's essentially mercs or soldiers as security.

Who says they're leading the expedition?

[Xaijin]

First and foremost, how can you be an N7 and not be battle tested? Aren't they essentially the best of the best? Is that decided by a random test score or something?

Secondly, if it's about exploration and finding a new home or whatever. Why wouldn't a scientist lead the expedition? Sure, you may need fire power but that's essentially mercs or soldiers as security.

The human members of your strike will start as N7s, the Pathfinder hasn't been mentioned to ever participate in a Strike mission. If you're an antisocial shut in or have crappy internet, those teams will be AI. If you don't have a neckbeard and anatomically correct poster of Miranda you commissioned off of DeviantArt, you'll use your MP chars and Skinner Box unlocks to help your friends and strangers on their Strike Missions.

[Broganisity]

*sighs*

 

https://en.wikipedia...nder_(military)

I like this human, they understand!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

*sighs*

 

https://en.wikipedia...nder_(military)

So we are just another gung-ho military person. Joy. 

[Mdizzletr0n]

Who says they aren't battle-tested?


Who says they're leading the expedition?

The first info was that we'd play as someone thats combat trained but untested.

[Mdizzletr0n]

I believe Bioware said that we won't be an N7, but "will have something to do with N7". I know the person in the trailer is not the protagonist.

A lot of scientists in the Mass Effect universe have at least some combat training. Just look at Liara, Amanda Kenson, or Mordin.

That's what I'd thought as well, but repeatedly hearing some posters would still say the protagonist would be. This is more explaining why it wouldn't personally make sense to me.

[Mdizzletr0n]

*sighs*

https://en.wikipedia...nder_(military)

If all we'd be doing is setting dropzones for combat and what not, then we'd be better off having a side story to the original trilogy than a totally different system. It'd be like ME:Odst or something.

[Helios969]

If all we'd be doing is setting dropzones for combat and what not, then we'd be better off having a side story to the original trilogy than a totally different system. It'd be like ME:Odst or something.

There's just a bit more to being a pathfinder than that.  I kind of think in the context of a ME game we'll being exploring and/or securing areas filled with enemy forces and other hazards in order to establish FOB's or making it safe for our civilians to establish encampments.  Whether they can tell an engrossing story in such a context remains to be seen, though I think it's entirely doable.

[Han Shot First]

Chances are the protagonist will be Reaper War veteran, whether or not he or she is an N7. 

 

From the sound of it the protagonist is going to be one of the first generation of Andromeda colonists, and most likely the colonists will set out for Andromeda during the Reaper War. The reason for shifting the setting to Andromeda is almost certainly to avoid having to deal with ME3's endings. If that is the case, the colonists would have to set out before the Crucible fires in order for the devs to avoid having to write their way out of the mess created by ME3's endings.

[KaiserShep]

So we are just another gung-ho military person. Joy. 

 

I don't see what's so bad about having a military background in the story. It's one of the few legitimate reasons for a character to have serious combat training and the ability to assume a leadership role without having to be some kind of battle-hardened space criminal by default. 

[Deebo305]

So we are just another gung-ho military person. Joy. 

I've seen this alot, so I'm just gonna ask. If the MC is not current or previously military then what would you prefer that would make sense and qualify them to lead anyone?

[Halfdan The Menace]

Most likely he's our scout at the start of a quest, similiar to Scout Harding in Inquisition.

[N7M]

The N7 in the trailer looks like he's hunting for something, possibly for the fan-theorized ark. There could have been a schism, mutiny and separation of crews. The armor the N7 has is much different than the more explorer/scientist styled concept art armor. Hunting and destroying the population of the ark would be corrosive to the N7's connection to humanity which would lead the N7 to join the ghost riders in the sky.

[Lady Artifice]

I still contend that it wouldn't be ridiculous to have options when it comes to the protagonist's career speciality, and their origin. I just want the option to play a character who's both a trained combatant and an academic. 

[KaiserShep]

I still contend that it wouldn't be ridiculous to have options when it comes to the protagonist's career speciality, and their origin. I just want the option to play a character who's both a trained combatant and an academic. 

 

I'd love to get dialogue options that you could unlock by having your character learn certain things. It wasn't really used to its fullest potential in Inquisition, but I rather enjoyed how my Trevelyan didn't have to ask what everything was and could seem knowledgeable about certain obscure things, like knowing a few things about magic and elves despite being a rogue shem. Too bad about the elf and Mythal though, though I understand that this wasn't supposed to happen. 

[Lady Artifice]

I'd love to get dialogue options that you could unlock by having your character learn certain things. It wasn't really used to its fullest potential in Inquisition, but I rather enjoyed how my Trevelyan didn't have to ask what everything was and could seem knowledgeable about certain obscure things, like knowing a few things about magic and elves despite being a shem. Too bad about the elf and Mythal though, though I understand that this wasn't supposed to happen. 

 

Inquisition had the some of the best implementation I've seen so far when it came to varied dialogue, with the exception of the mythal incident, and maybe some of the mage specific stuff. A mage character is described as being talented and knowledgable already, so they should have had the options that came with the arcane research perk by default. 

 

Overall, though, I'm cautiously optimistic about the direction they're headed.

[Chealec]

So we are just another gung-ho military person. Joy. 

 

 

Military does not equate to gung-ho. If the Royal Marine Commandos are a sledgehammer the RAF Paratroopers (Pathfinder regiments) were more like scalpels ... possibly scalpels inserted with sledgehammers for added effect but they were very much precision strike units ideally suited to recon.

 

You air-dopped in the Pathfinders to clear landing zones or to hold bridges (or booby trap them if necessary), to scout routes of attack - they're the troops you dropped behind enemy lines to trap their troops between themselves and the incoming infantry support; always outnumbered, always outgunned but could be pivotal to the outcome.

 

In MEA we've got jetpacks rather than parachutes but I wouldn't be at all surprised if BioWare hadn't taken a little inspiration from history when pencilling in the role of the N7 Pathfinders. Shepard was Navy - captained a ship and everything - I suspect the N7 Pathfinders are going to be more akin to an Air Force SpecOps unit... and I don't see that as a bad thing.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't see what's so bad about having a military background in the story. It's one of the few legitimate reasons for a character to have serious combat training and the ability to assume a leadership role without having to be some kind of battle-hardened space criminal by default. 

We've already had a protagonist with a military background for three games. I was hoping for something new. As you said, it is one of a few, as in there are other backstories that still work. 

 

I've seen this alot, so I'm just gonna ask. If the MC is not current or previously military then what would you prefer that would make sense and qualify them to lead anyone?

Them displaying leadership qualities. That isn't restricted to people in military professions.

 

Military does not equate to gung-ho. If the Royal Marine Commandos are a sledgehammer the RAF Paratroopers (Pathfinder regiments) were more like scalpels ... possibly scalpels inserted with sledgehammers for added effect but they were very much precision strike units ideally suited to recon.

 

You air-dopped in the Pathfinders to clear landing zones or to hold bridges (or booby trap them if necessary), to scout routes of attack - they're the troops you dropped behind enemy lines to trap their troops between themselves and the incoming infantry support; always outnumbered, always outgunned but could be pivotal to the outcome.

 

In MEA we've got jetpacks rather than parachutes but I wouldn't be at all surprised if BioWare hadn't taken a little inspiration from history when pencilling in the role of the N7 Pathfinders. Shepard was Navy - captained a ship and everything - I suspect the N7 Pathfinders are going to be more akin to an Air Force SpecOps unit... and I don't see that as a bad thing.

So exactly what we did as Shepard? Lead a squad that is dropped behind or in enemy lines and eliminate them with precision attacks. I thought Bioware said we weren't going to be Shepard 2.0?

[AllianceGrunt]

The human members of your strike will start as N7s, the Pathfinder hasn't been mentioned to ever participate in a Strike mission. If you're an antisocial shut in or have crappy internet, those teams will be AI. If you don't have a neckbeard and anatomically correct poster of Miranda you commissioned off of DeviantArt, you'll use your MP chars and Skinner Box unlocks to help your friends and strangers on their Strike Missions.

 

What?