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The Pathfinder potentially being an N7 doesn't make sense to me...


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#76
Xaijin

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What?

There's no reason for the pathfinder to be an N7 themselves, even if it's description rather than a title.

The trailer specifically refers to the the strike team themselves, which would obviously be N7s if you expected to get your **** done. There's nothing that says the human colony and ship haven't been in Andromeda for a while at the beginning of the game. And if the Khet have only recently gotten access to remnant tech pretty obvious why you'd be out rustling up support as either a civilian scout, and military freelance contractor or an actual pathfinder scout, none of which requires or even implies that the PC be N7, or even in the military for that matter.

It's probably even possible for your Strike squads to be higher up the food chain than you are, because their job is kick ass to rescue colonists or secure tech or territory, your job is to explore and chart places to get that stuff and make kissy face with new/old aliens to keep the Khet from kicking you out of the galaxy, and you're not going to send a bunch of half-ass mountain boys, you're going to send Dutch and his team of interracial badasses to go all captain planet on every motherf@cker they see.

You don't have to be Alliance to scout. You probably will be, but the implications that the protagonist will be a clone of shepard haven't been set up other than brokering friends with aliens and being in combat.

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No becoming a specter and the one N7 soldier at the time awesome enough to become one is someone important.  His individual fame through pretty extreme background choices started him on the well known galactic messiah route.  A N7 operative isn't any more important than any other navy seal or other special forces guy.  Outside knowing one personally or a retired one who is now a talking head on some news channel how many navy seals are super important that you know of compared to how many there actually are. Most special forces guys/gals are bad ass but not super important, not well known and many will have little actual combat experience because lots of people can join and have been in the special forces in times where there isn't much war.(seems odd to think of currently, but there are years where people aren't in constant war)  N7 might be the top end of special forces for the alliance, but that still means they are tons of them lying around and not all of them are super important, battle tested types.

 

You are wrong. Do you even know what it takes to be an N7? The courses are so extreme tha even qualifying for N1 is enough to make someone respectable. The N6 course involves actual combat experience in conflict zones across the galaxy. Only if they survive these actual combat scenarios in an “admirable and effective fashion", they can attain the N7 rank. So not only are they the best of the best in Special Forces but they are also important and definitely battle-tested.



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You are wrong. Do you even know what it takes to be an N7? The courses are so extreme tha even qualifying for N1 is enough to make someone respectable. The N6 course involves actual combat experience in conflict zones across the galaxy. Only if they survive these actual combat scenarios in an “admirable and effective fashion", they can attain the N7 rank. So not only are they the best of the best in Special Forces but they are also important and definitely battle-tested.

 

Combat experience in conflict zones is a very very wide range of accomplishments.  And nothing in what you are even implying somehow makes a soldier important.  They are still just A soldier.  The people of the alliance will roll on with no differences in how their lives play out with or without a soldier or even a full squad of N7 operatives. Outside of the people who personally know them like friends and family, no one knows them, they aren't effecting the galaxy in a measurable way. That is the reality of most individual special forces troops. If you are talking all of the N1-7 operatives yeah they have an effect on the galaxy, one of them though outside of Shepard and the next protagonist no not really.  Anything they do, another operative would have done in their place if they had the mission. 



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78stonewobble

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George Lucas' motto. ;-) and let's not forget that change also gave us Star Trek: Enterprise.

Seriously though, I wouldn't have been opposed to change had it made more sense to me. Playing a radically different protagonist like a roguish smuggler, or a noir-ish private investigator in Omega's seedy underbelly might have been an interesting change. But another N7? We already had a perfectly good one of those.

 

Man, I liked Enterprise :D 



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Combat experience in conflict zones is a very very wide range of accomplishments.  And nothing in what you are even implying somehow makes a soldier important.  They are still just A soldier.  The people of the alliance will roll on with no differences in how their lives play out with or without a soldier or even a full squad of N7 operatives. Outside of the people who personally know them like friends and family, no one knows them, they aren't effecting the galaxy in a measurable way. That is the reality of most individual special forces troops. If you are talking all of the N1-7 operatives yeah they have an effect on the galaxy, one of them though outside of Shepard and the next protagonist no not really.  Anything they do, another operative would have done in their place if they had the mission. 

Those military units did effect the galaxy in a measurable way though, or was it a bunch of office workers and Krogan go go dancers fighting the Reapers?



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I've seen this alot, so I'm just gonna ask. If the MC is not current or previously military then what would you prefer that would make sense and qualify them to lead anyone?


There are several types of leaders who arn't military, military rank or experience isn't a prerequisite for leadership.

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Those military units did effect the galaxy in a measurable way though, or was it a bunch of office workers and Krogan go go dancers fighting the Reapers?

 

You are missing the point.  The military as a whole is important, a single random N7 operative not even close to important.  Yeah millions or 10s of millions(100's at this point?) of people in the military 10's of thousands maybe 100's of thousands or even millions of which are special forces add up to something big.  Take one of them out and no one outside of their personal circle will know, they wont care and it wont have an effect on them.



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A few special operations people making it aboard the Ark (or whatever the means is to get to Andromeda) wouldn't affect much in the big picture. There are probably thousands, if not tens of thousands of them, in the Milky Way. N7s are very rare, but N1 through N6 much less so.


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There are several types of leaders who arn't military, military rank or experience isn't a prerequisite for leadership.

True. Having military experience would be a bonus



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to be fair, we need context before we begin to make sense of anything. we dont have any context at all. what we do have is some meager info from Bioware, we have rumors, and then we have versions of Bioware's information that people are spamming

 

i'd call all that, "no context at all" and i wouldnt worry about anything making any sense, until we have more concrete information.


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**** I wanted to be a Pirate.


Hey, maybe we're just a pirate who killed an N7 & stole their suit. One could hope.

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 isn't that the dream? To be a completely independent individual in this universe, free from affiliation. Living and dying by your own rules.

 

 

 

 

 

What a wonderful world....

 

I think you just described every TES game ever.


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Personally, I'd be more happy with a conscripted space pirate or bandit. 

 

But if we have to be military again, sure.......