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What was Bioware thinking with the romance plots??? I am baffled by some of it, although I do realize that they wanted to keep things as open as possible.  But, I would really like to see a proper ending to the romances, but specifically for Cullen and female inquisitor. They spent so much time setting up the romance and then the ending is so disappointing, especially when you have two annoying nobles nattering on about the romance throughout the entire game.

 

I quote:  "Could you have imagnined such a pairing?"  "Has there been any exchanges of gifts?"  "They will be planning gowns in Val Royeaux."  and so on.   The whole conversation leads you to think that Cullen or whoever you romance will have some kind of proporsal or committment to the Inquisitior at the end, but instead you get his stupid comment about not knowing what comes next.........or some obscure comment, I mean really!  :angry:

 

I was so deflated at the end of the Cullen romance plot :crying: as I was really expecting more.  I know that a lot of people were as well.

 

So here is the thing, if you want to see proper endings to the romance plots, post a comment here, and maybe, just maybe Bioware will hear us and do something about it in the next patch upgrade.........HINT HINT!!!!

 

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Sorry to disappoint you, but those nobles gossip about all the romances and their dialogue is not Cullen specific at all.

 

And it's not Bethesda, it's Bioware. Bethesda has had nothing to do with this game.


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Damn you bethesda!


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Bethesda? BioWare. One look at the top of the screen would have been all you needed to not look silly. :P
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Bethesda romances involve finding a piece of jewelry to wear and talking to the person.

 

Whatever faults you may have with Bioware, they do better than that, usually  :P


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I'd love for Bethesda to try and update the companion romances. Just for the reaction from Bioware, lol. Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

I can't actually comment on the Cullen romance, as I haven't done it. But having done the Blackwall romance, I could have definitely done with more scenes after his personal quest than what I got. So I would love more updates in that department.



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I was so deflated at the end of the Cullen romance plot :crying: as I was really expecting more.  I know that a lot of people were as well.

 

What were you expecting? You defeat Corypheus and suddenly a baby falls out of you? :P


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What was Bethesda thinking with the romance plots???

 

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Sorry people are teasing about your error and not discussing this. 

 

You'll be happy to know the new DLC coming out on Tuesday will have "extra sauce" for romances and you might just get your wish with Cullen!


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Firstly, I apologize for my slip up with saying Bethesda, NOT Bioware.  It happens to everyone now and again, unless, of course, you are perfect! :blush:

 

Secondly, this was a post to discuss the romance options, not a bash session over a error on a name..........

 

Thirdly, thank you "dafan0903" for the information.  I will definitely be glad to see the changes. :kissing:

 

@ Potato Cat  Thanks for the info, but I am well aware that the noble comments are not specific to Cullen and are for all romance plots, I have played through the game several times (probably about 20 times or more)  with different romance scenarios, and yes, even tried out Dorian romance.

 

@ thatsoneevildude  NO, I was not expecting to have a baby pop out, just a proper ending to a romance that you have committed to, would have been nice.  But, I guess I am just a romantic at heart.  When I make a committment to a person, sleep with them, I would expect more than just whatever, at the end.  But hey that is just me..... <3 

 

So, having got all of that off my chest, and if you guys are finished with the rude or teasing remarks, either post something serious about this discussion or don't bother.

 

Cheers,


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Well, both the Josephine and Cassandra romances end with them looking out on the balcony in the Inquisitor's quarters wondering what will come next.  It may not be concrete, but it sure beats something like, say Mass Effect 3.

 

I certainly wasn't planning on something like Josephine's sister's weird idea of he Inquisitor and Josephine running off to the Grey Wardens and fight darkspawn the rest of our lives.


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I never even realised the noble's comments were about the Inquisitor, I thought they were just random. I did wonder this though as I'm playing a male for the first time and heard them say something about being a confirmed Batchelor. Then after the romance seen with Cassandra they said something about, erm, reaching a climax.
 
Bull's ending was pretty bad. He says something really strange about giving you a love bite. But then I wasn't a fan of that whole romance and by that point just wanted to erase it from my memory and my hard drive. But on the whole I think some of the endings are fine because at least they end up together. I think it's meant to be part of your Inquisitor's story but not a major part.



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I never even realised the noble's comments were about the Inquisitor, I thought they were just random. I did wonder this though as I'm playing a male for the first time and heard them say something about being a confirmed Batchelor. Then after the romance seen with Cassandra they said something about, erm, reaching a climax.
 
Bull's ending was pretty bad. He says something really strange about giving you a love bite. But then I wasn't a fan of that whole romance and by that point just wanted to erase it from my memory and my hard drive. But on the whole I think some of the endings are fine because at least they end up together. I think it's meant to be part of your Inquisitor's story but not a major part.

 

 

I got frowned upon by nobles for kissing Solas on the balcony lol


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OP, you should edit your OP in order to lower the probability that more people will comment on your mistake with the name.

@The topic:
I think that it is intentional that the specifics of romance outcomes are left open to our imagination. I, for one, hate romances that end with a wedding because that feels like it ends in a static, unchanging state, and as a rule I'm very happy if a romance says "who knows what comes next, but we'll be together". From my point of view, that's just perfect, because it feels like the future is dynamic, that there are more stories to be told about those two if you so imagine.

Should wedding scenes be added to DAI, I'll replay all my Inquisitors to not romance anyone. Except for those romances without a happy ending.
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Honestly I felt that the romance endings in Inquisition were more satisfying then the previous games.


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With the upcoming DLC being an Epilogue, I have no doubts the romances will have more conclusion to them.

 

I hope we get an option to marry the LIs.


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....

I quote:  "Could you have imagnined such a pairing?"  "Has there been any exchanges of gifts?"  "They will be planning gowns in Val Royeaux."  and so on.   The whole conversation leads you to think that Cullen or whoever you romance will have some kind of proporsal or committment to the Inquisitior at the end, but instead you get his stupid comment about not knowing what comes next.........or some obscure comment, I mean really!  :angry:

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I am well aware that the noble comments are not specific to Cullen and are for all romance plots, I have played through the game several times (probably about 20 times or more)  with different romance scenarios, and yes, even tried out Dorian romance.

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I never even realised the noble's comments were about the Inquisitor, I thought they were just random. ....

 

Any hint about which nobles I should stalk to get these comments? I could never get them. :( 



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Any hint about which nobles I should stalk to get these comments? I could never get them. :(

They show up occasionally in the main chamber of Skyhold. They are standing near where the Dwarf who translates the Mosiacs stands.



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Any hint about which nobles I should stalk to get these comments? I could never get them. :(


OK, you know when you enter the throne room by the main doors, there's usually two people standing there? The ones who comment on your relationship status sre sn Orlesian noble in a mask speaking to a woman in a long dress.

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They show up occasionally in the main chamber of Skyhold. They are standing near where the Dwarf who translates the Mosiacs stands.

 

OK, you know when you enter the throne room by the main doors, there's usually two people standing there? The ones who comment on your relationship status sre sn Orlesian noble in a mask speaking to a woman in a long dress.

 

OK, thanks, I'll try to not miss them this time. 

(I knew it was some Orlesian noble, but there's a ton of Orlesian nobles in the throne room)



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They are random, but usually start showing up immediately after you commit to one of the relationship plots.  They get annoying after a while actually, once you have heard them going on about it once, that was enough for me anyway...... :rolleyes:

 

Also, thank you to all of you who have posted about their experiences with relationships, it is interesting to hear everyone's take on them.  Since I generally play a female character, the comments about the other romances are appreciated.  Keep the dialogue going, who knows what will come of it.

 

Cheers,


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OK, thanks, I'll try to not miss them this time. 

(I knew it was some Orlesian noble, but there's a ton of Orlesian nobles in the throne room)

 

One of them is voiced by the same actor that voices Stroud, I'm pretty sure.



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I like the ending with Josephine and the Inquisitor on the balcony



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I found Sera's romance to be the most satisfying I've played in any single BioWare game yet. But you know, we all have different tastes...


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The whole conversation leads you to think that Cullen or whoever you romance will have some kind of proporsal or committment to the Inquisitior at the end, but instead you get his stupid comment about not knowing what comes next.........or some obscure comment, I mean really!  :angry:

 

I was so deflated at the end of the Cullen romance plot :crying: as I was really expecting more.  I know that a lot of people were as well.

 

So to actually comment on the specific issue you brought up.... the "commitment" point with Cullen is in the sex scene in his office - he's explicitly saying, "when this is over, I won't want to let go of you" and asking if that's what you want too. If you don't want that much commitment you have the option to end the romance right there, but if you continue it, you are by all means agreeing to staying with him, even after the whole Corypheus, Inquisition etc stuff is done. Not all the romances lock-in in those terms (Blackwall's, for instance, locks in terms of "I don't know how to be with you anymore but we'll figure it out," Solas' locks in in terms of "I love you but I can't do this"); but Cullen's specifically locks in with a promise of staying together after what you brought together is over. It's not a typical proposal, on one knee with a diamond ring or whatnot, but it is a commitment.

 

As for a formal proposal... sure a lot of players like to headcanon marriage and babies, but a lot of players also don't want that at all. If you search the Cullen thread for marriage, you'll see long discussions we've had over the last months about it - some players like the formal structure of marriage, other players just want to be together and don't want a proposal at all... it's hard to please everyone, which is probably why BW, with rare exceptions, doesn't take romances further than "we'll stay together" and just lets you headcanon the rest.

 

If you look back at the series, the only two romances that could end in marriage were Sebastian and (a very specific spin of) Alistair, and these marriages were logical extensions of those characters' stories - king!Alistair needed to marry Cousland or Anora for political reasons, and priest!Sebastian needed the marriage as a religious compromise. Those romances weren't assuming marriage as the natural end point of a relationship, they were just resolving a larger issue that the romance subplot conflicted with (see Alistair breaking up with every f!Warden who's not a Cousland). Cullen doesn't have an issue like that, though; he's not a political figure, his religion doesn't interfere with his intimate life, he can pretty much do and date whoever he wants, so there's no reason for the writing to force a political marriage into his romance. He wants to be with your Inquisitor, that's it. The final terms of that relationship, whether you'll get formally married or just stay together as it is, are for you headcanons to decide.

 

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Post-Trespasser edit: well, this post just got really funny now, in retrospect. :P


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