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[NomNomZom]

I've fully completed JoH. I have one "hidden" tile in my keep which is above The Descent so I'm guessing that's the one. The character loaded in the keep is the same one I completed it with. Tried reloading game to get it to trigger but to no avail, also tried using a diff character. I have the Keep settings to show spoilers but that doesn't seem to be the issue. Any assistance would be much appreciated!

[katerinafm]

Did you play and save the game since the new tiles were added? It may need to sync your save again.

[NomNomZom]

Did you play and save the game since the new tiles were added? It may need to sync your save again.

 

Yes, I did. I loaded the same character back up, traveled to the basin talked to a few people and saved. Still not showing up though. 

 

Edit: Scratch that. The tile still said hidden but after clicking on it i was able to make my choices. So I guess it did end up working. Thank for your input! (:

[kukumburr]

I'm having a similar problem with The Descent. I just recently played through both Jaws and Descent and while my Jaws choices showed up, everything for the Descent is still hidden (and I've tried clicking on everything). It's been over a day and I've logged off and on that character several times since.

[Arisugawa]

I can see some of the choices in JoH, but not all.

 

For example, there is option of "The Dragon Was Slain," but the opposing option is still listed as hidden. Does that actually mean the alternative is the Dragon was left to rampage? How can the Keep account for that, considering there's no real way to fail the quest permanently?

[movie_diva]

I  see The Descent but just one tile shows nothing else, and I don't see the JOH at all, it just shows hidden and when I click on it nothing happens, I have finished both DLC's, saved the games, and loaded it back up and synced the save.

[Kantr]

You copied the worldstate over from current playthrough? Because that's what I did to have the descent tiles show up

[MaxQuartiroli]

You copied the worldstate over from current playthrough? Because that's what I did to have the descent tiles show up

 

This can be a solution to see the tiles that you have unlocked with your choices in JOH and The Descent. But if you wish to see the content of the hidden tiles (and perhaps change manually your decisions) you'll have to wait for future updates of the keep.

 

So far I have 4 tiles out of 5 unlocked for JOH and I wonder what is the 5th tile that I missed (or that, perhaps, didn't update properly)  

[Ranadiel Marius]

I can see some of the choices in JoH, but not all.

 

For example, there is option of "The Dragon Was Slain," but the opposing option is still listed as hidden. Does that actually mean the alternative is the Dragon was left to rampage? How can the Keep account for that, considering there's no real way to fail the quest permanently?

Well you can just leave the area once the Dragon is free and never deal with it. Additionally the Keep does seem to account for the possibility that you never do the DLC at all.

 

 

This can be a solution to see the tiles that you have unlocked with your choices in JOH and The Descent. But if you wish to see the content of the hidden tiles (and perhaps change manually your decisions) you'll have to wait for future updates of the keep.

 

So far I have 4 tiles out of 5 unlocked for JOH and I wonder what is the 5th tile that I missed (or that, perhaps, didn't update properly)  

Just looking at the five unlocked tiles in my Keep, I'm going to guess you are missing the Nox Morta tile. I do not comprehend why there is a tile for that quest though. O.o

[Arisugawa]

Well you can just leave the area once the Dragon is free and never deal with it. Additionally the Keep does seem to account for the possibility that you never do the DLC at all.

 

 

No, my point is since you can finish the quest at any time, even after the end game, what is the criteria that the Keep would use to unlock the failure state? Wouldn't that need to be manually assigned by the player, and thus always available? It's not as though there is such as thing as a completed world state that uploads to the Keep that flags the failure to kill the Dragon.

[kukumburr]

You copied the worldstate over from current playthrough? Because that's what I did to have the descent tiles show up

 

Is this when you turn your current playthrough state into an editable state? If that's what you mean I tried it and all the Descent tiles are still locked out. I guess I can just wait until they remove the spoiler locks but it's weird that it updated for Jaws but not for Descent for me. I played them one right after the other.

[Kantr]

Is this when you turn your current playthrough state into an editable state? If that's what you mean I tried it and all the Descent tiles are still locked out. I guess I can just wait until they remove the spoiler locks but it's weird that it updated for Jaws but not for Descent for me. I played them one right after the other.

Yeah. Odd that it's not unlocked for you. I can't see Hakkon tiles either (despite doing part of it in another PT) but my descent tiles unlocked after finishing it. I haven't yet unlocked Hakkon on the wartable yet on this PT so we'll see what happens

[MaxQuartiroli]

Well you can just leave the area once the Dragon is free and never deal with it. Additionally the Keep does seem to account for the possibility that you never do the DLC at all.

 

 

Just looking at the five unlocked tiles in my Keep, I'm going to guess you are missing the Nox Morta tile. I do not comprehend why there is a tile for that quest though. O.o

 

No.. I have got the Nox Morta tile. I am missing the last one, the one which is near the Nox Morta and that have 3 tiles, all of which are hidden.

 

Like I said, maybe is something I completed but didn't update properly. It happened often. For example, I had to set manually everytime that I gave the wyvern heart to Vivienne, because the keep never uploaded that choice, even if I completed the quest in all of my playthroughs. Same for the judgment: the keep unlocked only the "merciful" tile even if did very different choices with every inquisitor.

[Ranadiel Marius]

No, my point is since you can finish the quest at any time, even after the end game, what is the criteria that the Keep would use to unlock the failure state? Wouldn't that need to be manually assigned by the player, and thus always available? It's not as though there is such as thing as a completed world state that uploads to the Keep that flags the failure to kill the Dragon.

Maybe when you start Intruder since you can't return to old areas then? Then again there are several tiles that I don't think you can unlock the "didn't do" tile.

No.. I have got the Nox Morta tile. I am missing the last one, the one which is near the Nox Morta and that have 3 tiles, all of which are hidden.

Like I said, maybe is something I completed but didn't update properly. It happened often. For example, I had to set manually everytime that I gave the wyvern heart to Vivienne, because the keep never uploaded that choice, even if I completed the quest in all of my playthroughs. Same for the judgment: the keep unlocked only the "merciful" tile even if did very different choices with every inquisitor.

Can't check the Keep atm to be sure this is the right tile, but did you talk to the archaeologist guy back at camp after the dragon was freed?

[MaxQuartiroli]

Can't check the Keep atm to be sure this is the right tile, but did you talk to the archaeologist guy back at camp after the dragon was freed?

 

Nope.. I talked with Harding but it never crossed my mind that I had to talk to him again.. and what would be the 3 possible outcomes of this action?

[Ranadiel Marius]

Nope.. I talked with Harding but it never crossed my mind that I had to talk to him again.. and what would be the 3 possible outcomes of this action?

From memory:

Spoiler

-Did not reveal the history of first Inquisitor (aka what you did)
-Revealed a partial history of the First Inquisitor (aka didn't mention the ears)
-Revealed the full history of First Inquisitor

[MaxQuartiroli]

OK it was 100% that one thanks!!

I went back to the Basin in order to talk to the archeologist and I made my choices... for once I am grateful to the static world since no one had ever moved from the camp during all this time and he was still there! xDD

 

When I will be done with Trepasser I'll check the keep to see if my choices are shown correctly.

[PsiFive]

I've been back to talk to the archaeologist and done the resultant war table operation, but all the Jaws of Hakkon tiles remain locked for me. I've also got a couple of discrepancies between what I've done on this playthrough and what the Keep thinks I've done:

• Keep says I didn't give the snowy wyvern heart to Vivienne when in fact I did
• Keep says I was a merciful judge of prisoners, which is true to an extent but as I recruited everyone I could apart from Samson the "pressed many of those judged into service to strengthen the Inquisition" result would have made more sense
• Keep says Inquisition forces were not deployed regularly when I did every war table operation that became available

The only thing I can think of for the second one is that the description "many of those judged" is a bit misleading and it actually does have to be everyone who can be recruited must be recruited, and for the last one I suppose it's possible that it means I needed to use Cullen more than I did (I got the secrets slide in the epilogue so I guess that means I used Leliana for more operations than the other two). But I absolutely got that wyvern heart and completed all of Hakkon, so I've no idea what's wrong there. I suppose the Vivienne choice is a duff plot flag but as I can change it in the Keep it's not that big a deal. An entire DLC not showing up is pretty annoying though.

 

Edit: Just found a possible 4th discrepancy: the Keep's In Your Heart Shall Burn choice was "Player declared for the Inquisitor". As I was RPing a dwarf Inquisitor who still kind of bought into the whole Stone thing I avoided any Andrastian choices, so I wouldn't expect the "declared for faith" result. But what I got seems more like the Muahahahahaha Moar Powah For Me option, which I definitely didn't take. Think I went with stopping Corypheus, so wouldn't that be more declaring for order? The Keep is hard to figure out sometimes.

[Kantr]

Yeah the declaring is bit odd in what shows up in the keep.

 

I assume you've tried importing a Playthrough to be edited? Before I started Hakkon no tiles showed after they did show up.

[PsiFive]

Yep, tried that. I can only speculate why it's not working but I've run out of things to try beyond deleting it all and reinstalling, and frankly I'm bored with that as I've already done it twice without success to try and fix the PS3 Black Emporium sound bug. Maybe it'll show up once I get there in the next playthrough, or maybe BioWare will just unlock the tiles in the Keep by then. It might be a while off but I'm sure they will eventually ahead of the next game for anyone who couldn't/didn't play all the DLC.

[Gileadan]

I've bought and played through Jaws of Hakkon, The Descent and Tresspasser this week. Only Jaws of Hakkon shows up in the Keep, the two other DLCs don't. Meh.

 

Plus the Keep apparently also didn't recognize most of my war table operations.

 

Overall, a lot of hit and miss there.

[Kantr]

The war table tiles in the keep are Sutherland and "did the inquisition forces deploy regularly?"

 

Have you imported your playthrough into the keep since finishing it? That's how I got my tiles for Hakkon & Descent to show.

[Gileadan]

I didn't even know that there was a specific "import" option, so I just hit "load into the keep" again. Might not have been really effective because I had no other world state to swap it out and back in again. Anyway, the problem remains... no tiles for Inquisition forces deployment, Descent or Trespasser.  Jaws of Hakkon showed up just fine though. Odd.

[NichaelBluth]

My world state didn't show Hakkon, but did show Descent as being unfinished (despite it being finished). I did what was suggested in the FAQ, and made a copy world state that does show Hakkon, but now only shows Descent as "hidden" and unfinished.

[MaxQuartiroli]

 

• Keep says I didn't give the snowy wyvern heart to Vivienne when in fact I did
• Keep says I was a merciful judge of prisoners, which is true to an extent but as I recruited everyone I could apart from Samson the "pressed many of those judged into service to strengthen the Inquisition" result would have made more sense
• Keep says Inquisition forces were not deployed regularly when I did every war table operation that became available

 

Same thing happened to me everytime. I had to set up manually those tiles in all of my playthroughs. I suppose the keep is still a little buggy when it has to read some choices.