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Did you believe in the Maker?


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Arshei

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Well, i'm not talking about if one of your characters believe in the Maker, i'm saying if you think (of course in the game) there exists that.

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Maker

We have a lot of information about the Maker, Andraste and this religion, there are things like the sacred ashes of Andraste, a powerful thing, but can be simply magic dust.

andraste.png

 

Also Corypheous speak a lot about the golden city, but maybe he is insane, like Leliana.
Andraste_and_Maker_WoT.jpg

 

 

We know Andraste truly existed, but we can't know if she had a relation with the Maker, maybe she is another crazy

 

Maker.jpg

 

In a world where exist the magic, the qunari, the elves, nobody can simply deny the maker doesn't exist, i don't think he exists (but my character believe in him to get Cassandra approval :3), but if my character can throw fire of her hands, this makes me think

 


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Asdrubael Vect

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There is only Elgar'nan


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Some of my characters do;

 

myself, no, I am an agnostic.



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Dancing_Dolphin

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I believe the Maker or creator of Thedas was a
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Killdren88

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The one true god in both fantasy and reality.

 

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The Maker has to exist...there has to be someone giving these deities and titans their assignments



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My characters all tend to believe in the Maker unless they are from a different culture, but as a player I don't really think there even is an answer, given that the Maker's purpose within the narrative is to be ambiguous. Or if there is an answer, it's irrelevant because we aren't supposed to know. I don't think, meta-textually, he's supposed to have a direct impact on the world. I can say I believe it's plausible he's exists, though. 



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Less so now. If there is a maker, I believe that he just created the fundamentals of creation and just left them to their own devices kinda like what Morrigan speculated.

 

He's certainly not The Maker the Chantry believes. And due to the Sun symbols I am starting to think the person who contacted Andraste to spread The Maker's religion could very well have been the Sun deity that Elgar'nan defeated. The Maker certainly has the jealous god vibe going on



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The last fictional god-like "supreme-creator" that I saw proving itself to be real, turned to be:
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I don't think the Maker exists, and I have no reason to believe he does.

 

No I'm not an Atheist in real life, so that's not why I'm saying this. It's video game, he either exists or he doesn't. It's that simple.



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Doesn't really matter if he exists or not in my opinion.

 

He's not bothering to answer anyone's prayers or involve himself in Thedas, so why even care? 



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The maker is false. There is only Dumat.
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Yes

 

And everyone who doesn't gets a free trip to the gallows


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I believe that I don't know everything.
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 In a meta sense, yes. I believe there is no "Maker" within the setting itself, but that reality outside the game can be seen as its god. The developers who created it, and the player, are its ultimate, all-powerful masters, and they have an impact on the setting as relevant as (or maybe more than) any other part of it.


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Yup, there is a Maker and he is jealous. Why do you think modding has gotten harder with each game in the series? He doesn't care for imposters... even if they improve upon his creation  :whistle:


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 In a meta sense, yes. I believe there is no "Maker" within the setting itself, but that reality outside the game can be seen as its god. The developers who created it, and the player, are its ultimate, all-powerful masters, and they have an impact on the setting as relevant as (or maybe more than) any other part of it.

Kinda like in this life,i always thought of people as npcs into the hands of some player,all-powerful masters.

Ironically i still remember those two morons outside the tavern on lake Calenhad,and the way in which they were talking about   the developers/masters, they were by far the smartest people of the game



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As in real life ... there isn't enough evidence yet to come to a definitive conclusion.



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There is only Elgar'nan

For now i saw only a cute,bald wolfy.



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The Maker is a good of an answer as anything else for the random crap that happens in thedas.

 

So sure why not. 



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Arshei

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Yes

 

And everyone who doesn't gets a free trip to the gallows

 

Go home Meredith, you are insane.



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Cassandra: "I'm curious, do you even believe in the Maker?"

 

Lady Lavellan: "I'm Dalish. I believe in our own gods."


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Go home Meredith, you are insane.

 

Merrill calls Meredith insane? :lol: Get a room, you two!  :kissing:  

 

 

As my I'm-not-an-elf! Inquisitor would say if she got an opportunity: "Isn't it strange that everyone who was supposed to create the world has left? Either they're bunch af arseholes or they simply never existed."


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It's funny-- coming to the series from Inquisition (never having played Origins or II-- the latter only for an hour or so), it gives you a different perspective on the maker existing or not.  Now, having played DA:O (I went back to play it, loved Inquisition so much obvzzz), the whole stuff with Andraste's ashes throws a little bit of doubt onto my usually-agnostic mind-- at least in the world of Thedas.  

 

The spirits you talk to (the disciples) on your way to Andraste's Ashes, it's a really great scene, as well as, yes, it could make belief in the Maker seem less "faith" and more "real."  Or, could just be magic :)

 

Either way, I like the fact that the Maker's existence or not is left ambiguous in the series.  

 

Cool thread discussion-- cheers!



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In a weird sort of way, the fact that the series keeps the Maker ambiguous means that he must exist.  Basically, as long as the Maker can only exist through seeming acts of "providence", then in order to maintain the ambiguity, convenient coincidences that can be chalked up to providence have to be included.  Thus, providence is provided, indirectly, proving the Maker's existence within the setting.  Even if that never happens again, the fact that it has happened means that the Maker remains "true" until proven "false", QED.

 

That silly bit of logic aside, I don't really have an opinion on the Maker's "existence", other than that I like the fact that the devs have kept it ambiguous so far, and I hope they will continue to not give anything even remotely approaching a definitive answer.  I feel like they've already delved a little too deeply into the "truth" behind the religions with the Elven Pantheon, and I really don't feel like that's suited for the kinds of tales the series was originally built around.