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#101
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And that would be to gripe it to satisfy the very few minority of minority with no payout in either revenue or publicity, which I already said would make no sense for a business.


You're assuming that only a "minority of minority" would be interested in any sort of romances other than the formula we've seen thus far.

In terms of payout, I'd suggest it could be much cheaper to make at least some of the romances less defined.
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You're assuming that only a "minority of minority" would be interested in any sort of romances other than the formula we've seen thus far.

In terms of payout, I'd suggest it could be much cheaper to make at least some of the romances less defined.

It's not up to me to prove otherwise, it's up to the people who want the feature to prove it that it's profitable or logical.

 

And less satisfy as well to cut corner. You want to add asexual because of the philosophy behind it and profit, not because it's a side effect of cutting cost. By making it as defined, it also means that it has less contents compare to other romances. That's just gonna make a romance inferior compare to others.



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Look, am I gonna get to stick it in a cloaca or what.
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It's not up to me to prove otherwise, it's up to the people who want the feature to prove it that it's profitable or logical.


No, actually it isn't.

Consumers don't need to prove anything. They have every right to request features they think they might like. Deciding what to do about those requests is up to the producers of said product.
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of course not, assuming they both know the intention of the relationship, hence "at an unspecified date in the future".
 

 

No, and in that case the sexual attraction probably didn't simply cease to exist just because it is now more difficult to perform acts of sexual intimacy (assuming the will is still there at all for both partners)
 

probably not, then again you are describing a relationship where neither of you are asexuals. It isn't really analogous. Asexuality is a medical condition resulting in the lack of a sex drive, seperate from abstention from sexual activity either due to social or even physical reasons (religion, distance, physical disability etc).
 

The intended functions of the genitals don't exclusively define human (or in this case alien) sexuality.  It is also encompasses neurochemical processes and fixed action patterns (instincts). If those processes truly aren't physically present in an individual, than neither should the sexual behaviors based upon them (i.e. "cuddling" as an example).

Romantic relations are defined by sex or sexual activity. If there is none, there ceases to be a distinction with platonic relationships, and therefore the two terms are redundant.
 

Pardon me for asking scientific questions, but don't call me "ignorant" simply because you can't elucidate on them. I'm not attempting to define anyone's sexuality, I'm simply using the empirical physical definition of asexual as the physical lack of sexual attraction, which is distinct from celibacy or abstention, both of which are chosen behavioral traits.

If someone enjoys cuddling/ physical contact as a result of oxytocin release, than they are not asexual, they are simply celibate. I do plenty of research, and it doesn't involve listening to random people who have no scientific knowledge and are in actuality the ones performing "rectal pull".

I'm not at all an expert on asexual "romance". The concept seems an oxymoron to me based on my understanding of human sexuality and sociology, that's why I'm asking the questions.

 

Actually, oxytocin is released when mothers cuddle their children, or even when people pet dogs..........

 

 

it's the "bonding" chemical, not the "sex" chemical.


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No, actually it isn't.

Consumers don't need to prove anything. They have every right to request features they think they might like. Deciding what to do about those requests is up to the producers of said product.

And that is something I already said. I find the thread useless because even with the request, it's not gonna be implemented because there is no logical reason to include it. I could request for a first person camera or meelee combat as an alternative, it's also suggestions, but there is no reason for them to include it if it's either illogical or nonprofitable to include it. It's just fruitless and will get buried once the mocking from some people on here stop just like every other posts out there. We're just arguing about something that's not gonna happen since there is no incentive to implement such a feature. This is basically just wasting time on something that not gonna happen if all you're gonna do is requesting an obscure or overwhelmingly unpopular suggestion without an incentive for them to include it. I have never said they couldn't request it, but it's just a waste of time if nothing comes out of it.



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Well, even if it is not clearly stated, it appears obvious that turians are mammals, if only for the fact that garrus might have sex with female shepard. And an intercourse between a mammal and a non-mammal would simply be IMPOSSIBLE.
As for the rest....you quoted a relationship between a race with a very short life span with a race with a very long life span. So, salarians process emotions very quickly, and asaris are ''emotionally mature'' enough for knowing that detah is unavoidable.
So, you quoted a special exception of what i said: a relationship between a human and a salarian would be impossible, in my opinion.

 

...obvious? How so? Because it complies to your preconceptions? And, I'll say it again, SLEEPING WITH AN ALIEN WITH INCOMPATIBLE PHYSIOLOGY WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE IN AN ASEXUAL RELATIONSHIP.

 

...that last part doesn't even make sense. You think there aren't any humans who have to come to terms with the fact that they are going to outlive their partner from an early point in their relationship?



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Whoops.  Double post.



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The thing of outliving them is actually pretty interesting to me I mean we had the reverse with Liara already (though some could say we had this already with Thane but I think that having a rapidly short natural life span compared to your partner and dying of a illness could be written quite differently or handled differently)


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And that is something I already said. I find the thread useless because even with the request, it's not gonna be implemented because there is no logical reason to include it. I could request for a first person camera or meelee combat as an alternative, it's also suggestions, but there is no reason for them to include it if it's either illogical or nonprofitable to include it. It's just fruitless and will get buried once the mocking from some people on here stop just like every other posts out there. We're just arguing about something that's not gonna happen since there is no incentive to implement such a feature. This is basically just wasting time on something that not gonna happen if all you're gonna do is requesting an obscure or overwhelmingly unpopular suggestion without an incentive for them to include it. I have never said they couldn't request it, but it's just a waste of time if nothing comes out of it.


If you don't want it you can just likewise say that you don't want it.

Leave it to the devs to decide whether or not something will come of it.

I mean, pretending they read these forums and take suggestions from here anyway. lol.

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If you don't want it you can just likewise say that you don't want it.

Leave it to the devs to decide whether or not something will come of it.

I mean, pretending they read these forums and take suggestions from here anyway. lol.

I said I didn't want it a few posts back already. I was just responding back to the follow up replies. Certain features like kissing was back to DAI because of fan suggestions, so they do read up on it sometimes. Anyway, I doubt it will get implemented anyway, and I was just pointed out that it's a waste of time since there is no logical reasons to include it even if the developers were to read it.



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And that would be to gripe it to satisfy the very few minority of minority with no payout in either revenue or publicity, which I already said would make no sense for a business.

With fade to black option alongside with a sexual one, then the asexual people could do the same. It's something Bioware already stated they would work into the game. 

 

BW pretty much already included asexual romances in their games with Solas and Josephine.



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Josephine is asexual?  Really?



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Josephine is asexual?  Really?

 

I wouldn't say asexual but they left it intentionally vague for people, and as far as I know her and Solas are the only ones with no sex scene at all optional or otherwise.


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BW pretty much already included asexual romances in their games with Solas and Josephine.

Not showing it doesn't mean that it's asexual. It's like saying Elsa is a lesbian because she doesn't have a boyfriend. Many games out there have romance without sex scene but that doesn't mean they are asexual. 



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I wouldn't say asexual but they left it intentionally vague for people, and as far as I know her and Solas are the only ones with no sex scene at all optional or otherwise.

 

I agree, I wouldn't say she is asexual either.  In this thread there seem to be many instances were 'asexual romance' is being used to talk about couples who happen to abstain from sex.



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You misspelled turian there.

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Not showing it doesn't mean that it's asexual. It's like saying Elsa is a lesbian because she doesn't have a boyfriend. Many games out there have romance without sex scene but that doesn't mean they are asexual. 

 

Maybe or maybe not.

 

They never show "the deed," so it's left open for interpretation.

 

If I was playing an asexual character, it's good enough for me.


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Maybe or maybe not.

 

They never show "the deed," so it's left open for interpretation.

 

If I was playing an asexual character, it's good enough for me.

I personally didn't care for Josephine's approach but it's just my personal preference. Anyway, they have fade to black scene option which can be open for interpretation. It's already something they said they do. This thread is asking for an asexual character specifically which is something different from what Solas or Josephine is. 



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Maybe or maybe not.

 

They never show "the deed," so it's left open for interpretation.

 

If I was playing an asexual character, it's good enough for me.

 

Solas does mention that getting the elfquisitor into bed is "a bonus" of the relationship at one point. And Josephine is very appreciative of walking in on a naked Iron Bull.



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SERIOUSLY THOUGH, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO ROMANCE THIS?

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TELL ME YOU DON'T WANT TO ROMANCE THIS

 

Honestly, it never occurred to me. But a Josephine style Salarian romance? I actually wouldn't argue against o_o



#122
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Solas does mention that getting the elfquisitor into bed is "a bonus" of the relationship at one point. And Josephine is very appreciative of walking in on a naked Iron Bull.

 

To be fair though that Solas line it optional and only happens with a certain dialog option for him so those who want to look at it as no sex involved can avoid hearing that line all together. Can't really say much on Ruffles though she was clearly wanting to try that bull ride. Back off poof sleeves that's mine hisssss.



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Like in the AI thread, the question is why would the Salarian (who is the asexual in this case) be interested in the romance?

 

Are people trying to set up an unrequited love romance?



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Like in the AI thread, the question is why would the Salarian (who is the asexual in this case) be interested in the romance?

 

Are people trying to set up an unrequited love romance?

 

Well we have seen at least two examples of a salarian in a romantic relationship before, one was a husband shopping for his wife with his daughter there and another was an asari talking about her salarian father. Possibly three examples if you interpret the human and salarian talking about armor after the attack on the Citdel in ME3 as more than friends or not. (I personally don't but some people do)


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Well we have seen at least two examples of a salarian in a romantic relationship before, one was a husband shopping for his wife with his daughter there and another was an asari talking about her salarian father. Possibly three examples if you interpret the human and salarian talking about armor after the attack on the Citdel in ME3 as more than friends or not. (I personally don't but some people do)

 

Hmmm.  These relationships are apparently sexual though (inb4 asari).  Unless we want to explain it as Asari indoctrinating other species for the purpose of procreation (which has plenty of evidence in the series).