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Solas will unstablelizes your arm if you try to attack him too, he's a dick. A dick that cares, but still a dick.



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I must said I loved Sera in this DLC , well I already liked her...but I was playing my Dalish with a crisis of faith since DAI and Mythal business...so when I saw an option to talk about the Creators with her, well I took it .

So my Inquisitor said he was feeling bad about it...and Sera was super nice!!! No " stupid" just a really friendly Sera trying to cheer you up.

Yup, Sera's dialog was amazing int his dlc. How she reacts when a betrayal happens just hurt,



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Solas will unstablelizes your arm if you try to attack him too, he's a dick. A dick that cares, but still a dick.

 

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Son of a **** I think Varric is mackin on Cass here... he must have realized I dropped the ball by not proposing to her in the DLC... oh wait.

 

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You did not disappoint Bioware, BRAVO

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Tis why Solas needs to die. There's no saving Solas. His guilt has totally and utterly corrupted him. All he cares about is saving the elves, he's always been a bit racist afterall and unstable

 

At least we now know who killed Felassan tho in Masked Empire and who wanted the passcode.


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Well I kinda felt like I wanted to strangle Solas...seriously the level of bulls*** is too damn high.

"I am not a monster.I will kill you all but before that my elven servants will bring of all Thedas gifts and joy , so you may die in bliss."

I started to roll my eyes.

Then

"The Qunari are your fault , Inquisitor."

Excuse me?Guy send Qunari after the Inqui , the Qunari are after you because they're paranoid after the Breach , Solas caused.And paranoid about the mark , Solas is also responsible for that.


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Just gonna break the flow for minute to talk about my boy Cole getting himself a girlfriend, I felt like dad watching my son show off his girl :D

Had the biggest smile on my face I Cole with Bard
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Just gonna break the flow for minute to talk about my boy Cole getting himself a girlfriend, I ft like dad watching my son show off his girl :D

Had the biggest smile on my face I Cole with Bard

Lol I got Spirit Cole to hook up Mary with Krem. lol Krem Brulee!


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While I don't expect the Inquisitor to be a playable character in the future at all, I can't help but feel that the fixed outcome of losing the limb makes for interesting potential in gameplay, since it effectively allows the skills to be reset to accommodate the drastic change. I would've loved to be able to try an Inquisitor with a crossbow for an arm. 


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Tis why Solas needs to die. There's no saving Solas. His guilt has totally and utterly corrupted him. All he cares about is saving the elves, he's always been a bit racist afterall and unstable

 

At least we now know who killed Felassan tho in Masked Empire and who wanted the passcode.

 

I think the 'not give up on Solas' choice may result in an altered plan.

 

I mean both paths will, probably, but the 'not give up' one may result in a more Fade/Spirity/etc consequence than otherwise. Still Bioware-merged-story but yeah.



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Anyone else noticed the hint of Spirit Cole being implied to be helping to stop Solas? Does that mean Cole confirmed for DA4?



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I squealed when Zither appeared. Squealed. and then Krem Brulee

 

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Solas is still my bae but I'm very happy on how they handled him and the romance. I'm glad my interpretation of his character was correct. Vhenan is a silly baka, and I'll kick his ass until he sees reason next game.


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Anyone else noticed the hint of Spirit Cole being implied to be helping to stop Solas? Does that mean Cole confirmed for DA4?

 

Why would that be considered "confirmed"? Maybe he might get a Zevran-style cameo, but I'd expect nothing more than that. Heck, we don't even know how big a role Solas will actually play in DA4. For all we know, he's a sideshow while a-hole magisters and/or the Stenishok serving as the true big bad.



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...Okay, I have a huge problem with your attitude towards companions. You know being friends with someone doesn't mean being slavishly devoted to them and sacrificing all other priorities, responsibilities, and interests.

 

I have a huge problem with being told explicitly and implicitly over and over that romance is the only way if you want an enduring bond with someone, and with being insulted and having my words twisted (classy, people) when I get bitter over it. Asking for an option to build platonic bonds that are given similar weight and respect, or for a bit of togetherness instead of an instant scattering to the four winds, is not "slavery". And if people care to read, I specifically said that I don't expect everyone to stay, or for anyone to give up their lives. Just to be able to keep sharing them with them in some way, as Dorian does with the crystal. Mutual caring, mutual support. The companion quests and pretty much any companion interaction revolve heavily around what the NPCs think, need and want -- it's not like we just take and demand and use them.

 

Pursuing other goals isn't "abandonment" and it certainly isn't that they "don't care two sh*ts" about the Inquisitor.

 

Given Bioware's track record all the way back to BG2 ToB, yes it is. When most NPC epilogues don't mention the ex-protagonist with a single word, when a distant god and a still-present mortal, or a pile of ashes and a living person, get treated the same, that is exactly what it means. And for the few who mention it, I'll believe "promises" when they actually come true -- and, again, it's not as if the threat is over, it's barely yet begun.


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Anyone else noticed the hint of Spirit Cole being implied to be helping to stop Solas? Does that mean Cole confirmed for DA4?

 

While they may not be in the exact main party in DA4, I think that as opposed to DAO and especially DA2, the feeling of the conclusion of the companions of DAI is that they're still committed to maintaining order in Thedas. That they haven't just been given the gift of freedom to find what they want (DAII for example), but given a purpose, and that while they're not necessarily immediately tied to the fight against Solas, they are also not running away from it, are aware of it, and will do what they can to help.

 

That is to say that I do almost expect Cole in DA4, companion or not. I would like it if helps out in an optional but useful way (for story/gameplay).



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Why would that be considered "confirmed"? Maybe he might get a Zevran-style cameo, but I'd expect nothing more than that. Heck, we don't even know how big a role Solas will actually play in DA4. For all we know, he's a sideshow while a-hole magisters and/or the Stenishok serving as the true big bad.

 

I think Solas will be, at minimum, the focus of one main story quest in DA4.

 

And will probably be more than that.

 

Doesn't matter if he's not the be-all-end-all of that game (he even shouldn't be). He's going to be big.

 

This isn't a Morrigan "Oh she's up to something but we don't really know what its about", but "Oh, the world will end. Uh."



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Yeah, except my LI had her entire romance be the cutesy stuff and yet doesn't get a wedding.


Well we don't see it, but you can ask bull and he says that be doesn't need to be bound as he chooses the inquisitor every day, BUT of quizzy wants marriage, then he will happily oblige. So it's something that happens in their future, off screen. Lol

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Tis why Solas needs to die. There's no saving Solas. His guilt has totally and utterly corrupted him. All he cares about is saving the elves, he's always been a bit racist afterall and unstable

 

As I said repeatedly, I kinda liked Solas-as-Solas, but the post-credits scene was a shock and made me fear for the worst. And now ... yeah, I wonder how Solas-as-Fen'Harel is "not a monster". The worst evil often isn't the bwahaha-moustache-twirling sort but the ones who really believe, and can make others believe, that their atrocities are completely reasonable and that they somehow had no choice and that they really don't want to hurt anyone more than they have to ... but still do it without hesitation.

 

I like a good redemption story. But on this level, that will very hard to pull off without turning it into a farce, especially once his plans really kick off.

 

I think the 'not give up on Solas' choice may result in an altered plan.

 

I don't think they'll set it in stone just yet, this early, especially seeing as how the Inquisitor won't be calling any shots anymore. The next protagonist will not have whatever friendship bond with Solas that the Inquisitor thought they had to possibly make them think there would be any point in trying.


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I found a cure for insomnia people!  I had to renew my drivers license today, and was so jazzed about the DLC last night that I couldn't even ATTEMPT to lay down to pretend to sleep.  This morning, AS SOON as it downloaded, I sat back in my reclining chair, started it up, got all the way to the convo with Cullen with my Lady Mage Trevelyan, and WHAM...out like a light.  I woke up JUST in time to start getting ready for work! :blink:

 

C'est la vie, no? :P


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Solas brought the veil which led to the downfall of Arlathan..so..Does that mean the veil did not exists at the time of Arlathan and pre-first Blight  Tevinter Imperium? Or am i getting confused somewhere?

 

Anyhow, it was a great DLC. Enjoyed it lot.



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Well we don't see it, but you can ask bull and he says that be doesn't need to be bound as he chooses the inquisitor every day, BUT of quizzy wants marriage, then he will happily oblige. So it's something that happens in their future, off screen. Lol

I don't want to have to imagine things to something I paid money for, especially while other people get to actually have that thing. Plus I don't even get to talk to the LI about it. It never comes up with them. The only time it comes up is when Varric pulled the prank on Cassandra by telling her we were going to propose to *insert LI here*.



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I have a huge problem with being told explicitly and implicitly over and over that romance is the only way if you want an enduring bond with someone, and with being insulted and having my words twisted (classy, people) when I get bitter over it. Asking for an option to build platonic bonds that are given similar weight and respect, or for a bit of togetherness instead of an instant scattering to the four winds, is not "slavery". And if people care to read, I specifically said that I don't expect everyone to stay, or for anyone to give up their lives. Just to be able to keep sharing them with them in some way, as Dorian does with the crystal. Mutual caring, mutual support. The companion quests and pretty much any companion interaction revolve heavily around what the NPCs think, need and want -- it's not like we just take and demand and use them.

 

Ok, three words: fragile and needy



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Solas brought the veil which led to the downfall of Arlathan..so..Does that mean the veil did not exists at the time of Arlathan and pre-first Blight  Tevinter Imperium? Or am i getting confused somewhere?

 

Anyhow, it was a great DLC. Enjoyed it lot.

 

It didn't exist.

 

There was a line between 'Thedas' and 'Fade', but it was not what we know as the Veil. Instead of a 'curtain'/'wall', there was more a fluid to wade through. Solas made it a 'thing'. The Veil.

 

Ancient, even pre-Tevinter humans experienced this world of greater magic. As did dwarves, or whatever they once were. Tevinter grew on a world of magic, yes. The Veil likely played a part in the decline of the elves and Tevinter's movement towards blood magic taught by demons gave them an edge in the world and they grew into the Imperium.

 

That's why we see the spirit worship of the Avvar in DLC, and how it actually has some legitimacy. And content of how ancient whatever tribes with axes were mistranslated and they actually were using staves for magic, etc. :)

 

The point is that before Solas did what he did, the world was magic. Our understanding of current Thedas is a dead world to Solas, essentially Tranquil compared to what it COULD be and (in his view) once WAS and COULD BE AGAIN.

 

Even if it means much mortal pain, Solas thinks (whether for elven supremacy reasons or care for the state of the world or both) Thedas is significantly better off with the magic returning. He has an unknown plan for the gods and is totally glad at having a Thedas more ready for the change, but the change will ultimately mean a rewrite of everything people used to consider normal, and great danger no matter how careful Solas is about it. He's not willing to make small nudges over centuries, not when he sees the elves basically dying out.

 

EDIT: I'm using the word magic in a generic way. In the DA world, 'magic' is often a specific thing that 'mages' do on Thedas, while the most cosmic level activity seems to use a language that goes beyond just 'being magical casting spells' like you're in Hogwarts. As we continue, we may see more terms arise (like the realms beyond Thedas not just being 'the Fade' exactly but instead 'the Beyond').


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At the end of the day, after all considerations about guilt and responsibility and whatever, Solas thinks like a god... and Thedas has no space left for gods. I won't feel bad for having to kill him and if I can talk him down I'll turn around and still kill him. He's just too dangerous, that combo of ego and power can't be left to run around unchecked.

 

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Still kinda confused as to how Mythal ties into all this, anyone wanna clear it up for me? Is she down with what Solas is doing? Who killed her way back when? If she isn't down with what Solas is doing why didn't she fight him [I suspect I know the answer: she's snekky AF]? AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: does drinking from the Well mean anything in this dlc? Or the epilogue?