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#701
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Morrigan side:

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Cant say about Inquisitor side yet, sorry.

 

There is an encounter in this dlc where having taken a bath in the well of sorrows allows you to successfully interact with elven spirits to prevent them from attacking you!


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I don't think they were mindless, but they were somehow linked to the Titans in a mental and spiritual way. I'm not sure they possessed much individuality. Something happened at one point to sever that bond, something the dwarves wanted to forget (I don't think this was the veil or the elves' doing)

The inscriptions in the Temple suggest that the Evanuris were preparing for war after they were worshipped as gods. I think there was another enemy, probably linked to dragons.

We do have evidence of mindless dwarves being found protecting Titans (forgot their names, but the dwarves in the bottom levels of Descent). So I think it is certainly possible dwarves were mindless early in their history.

I doubt the Evanuris were preparing to fight dragons post ascension. Everything we have seems to point to the Evanuris being closely associated with dragons. I suspect the Evanuris had tamed the mightiest dragons prior to their ascension to godhood.

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Trespassers reveal that the martyr Corypheus was slain by Fen'harel's pawns


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Very satisfied with this DLC. It really brings a more satisfying conclusion compared to the original ending.

I wasn't even romancing Solas (nor that I'm particularly attached to him tbh) or anything but the last meeting set-up and music really got to me.

 

Better antagonist than Cory ever was for sure



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Well... not sure if it has been pointed out, but this DLC kind of made whoever is Divine a moot point for games after DA:I. Which makes sense, kind of like who is king of orzammar, it is just flavor.

 

Also, what plan does Solas have after freeing the elf gods? Does he plan on using the blight against them? Would the Old Gods be killed in the chaos? Would the blight still exist? Would the ancient magisters, who Solas underestimates, still exist? Would the Avvar and their gods support Solas, or oppose him due to their programming on protecting the Avvar?

 

Obviously Morrigan would oppose Solas...


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^Regarding Solas and his motivations, well, his prime motivation is tearing down the Veil to "save the People". It doesn't include modern elves and other races. I'm not sure if it includes Evunaris. I mean, he made clear that he think they will never suffer enough for what they have done.

 

Tinfoil theory: Maybe some Evunaris are trying to escape their prison and he thinks tearing down the Veil is also a way to caught them off-guard while they are still weak and kill them?



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Obviously Morrigan would oppose Solas...


I don't think you can say that with any certainty. Morrigan's primary goal is to preserve the old magics that are being lost to time. Solas's plan is basically, "Hey let's return everything to how it once was." Morrigan would certainly have gone along with Solas at some point in time. Question is whether she still would (which may be deendent on Kieran being born).

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What Solas aims to do is create a Rift or Breach so massive the Veil would collapse and in that moment utilize Time Magic to run back time.

 

That is why you and those in your world were not seen as "real" to him. You were a mistake - a point in time he could rewind and would never happen. A dream. A figment.

 

That is why we were forced to see Time Magic twice in game. Once at Redcliffe, and just to make sure Solas was aware that time magic was possible, again at that one Tevinter temple with Servis.

 

Time Magic is also only possible when the Veil is massively damaged. It s not that we might die, it is that Thedas as we know it with its people now might never even be born, erased from existence permanently.


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What Solas aims to do is create a Rift or Breach so massive the Veil would collapse and in that moment utilize Time Magic to run back time.

That is why you and those in your world were not seen as "real" to him. You were a mistake - a point in time he could rewind and would never happen. A dream. A figment.

That is why we were forced to see Time Magic twice in game. Once at Redcliffe, and just to make sure Solas was aware that time magic was possible, again at that one Tevinter temple with Servis.

Time Magic is also only possible when the Veil is massively damaged. It s not that we might die, it is that Thedas as we know it with its people now might never even be born, erased from existence permanently.

Problem with that theory, you can't go back before the Breach was made.
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To be fair, the Dwarves in the Descent were not mindless and being controlled; in fact it's probably the opposite. They're a bunch of fanatics who became increasingly more extreme in their methods due to isolation.

 

We find out from Valta that The Stone/ Titan does not need or want their protection and that it seeks to reconnect with them (and Dwarves in general). They're individuals with wills of their own ... they're probably crazy though.

 

Just like Solas don't consider modern people as People; perhap they viewed dwarves the same way. Especially if they went to war Titans which are children of the Stone

 

Solas says "Dwarves are like the missing limb of a great warrior" maybe there's more truth to that statement?


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Also, does anyone know what happens if you take Bull with you during the third dash into the Eluvians, where he possibly betrays you if you let the Chargers die/didn't do his personal quest? Kind of too impatient to wait for my brother to get to that point, but if he does before you guys tell me I'll post on what happens



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Damn you BSN!

I just uninstalled DAI a couple weeks ago, after reading everyone's lukewarm reviews of the first 2 dlcs. I'm reinstalling as we speak - looks like this one is worth buying!

Can't wait to experience this for myself and see BioWare return to form!

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Also, does anyone know what happens if you take Bull with you during the third dash into the Eluvians, where he possibly betrays you if you let the Chargers die/didn't do his personal quest? Kind of too impatient to wait for my brother to get to that point, but if he does before you guys tell me I'll post on what happens


He betrays you and attacks you with a large group of Qunari.

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I don't think you can say that with any certainty. Morrigan's primary goal is to preserve the old magics that are being lost to time. Solas's plan is basically, "Hey let's return everything to how it once was." Morrigan would certainly have gone along with Solas at some point in time. Question is whether she still would (which may be deendent on Kieran being born).

 

I'm sure she will be all for recovering old magic and gaining more power and insight into reality, but Solas is not just talking about that. He is talking about wiping the slate clean, he means to commit mass genocide if not omnicide, and Morrigan is a part of that group Solas wishes to wipe out. The only allies of Solas are spirits, elves, and maybe the Promisers, and Morrigan is not part of any of those categories.

 

If her son is alive, she would oppose Solas for his sake. If her son doesn't exist, she will oppose Solas for her own sake.

 

Well... unless she discovered some way to ascend like Cory wished to and the way the old elf gods did, then maybe she won't care, but she won't support Solas ending her.

 

Solas is just another Cory (wishing to force the world to fit his concept of a better world with no regard to others), but with a Promiser bent (Paradise through Destruction).



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well its nice to know if you didn't do the favours for the DuParaquettes something shows up in the ending epilogue for it...  and Wycomme's elves get mentioned if you do the war table mission where the elves co-rule the city by Varric.

 

Also Cole says some really interesting things... (as always). 'All new faded for her'

 

What does it say about the Du Paraquettes? I'm thinking of letting Leliana's crew destroy the contract just to spite the House of Repose.



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What does it say about the Du Paraquettes? I'm thinking of letting Leliana's crew destroy the contract just to spite the House of Repose.

 

To quote from my epilogue: (Inquisition disbanded..)

 

"With the Inquisition disbanded, Josephine made her farewells and returned to Antiva and her family./ She was soon approached from an Agent from the House of Repose, whose assassins had been killed by the Inquisition on Josephine's behalf./ Far from being offended, the House of Repose was inquiring as to whether might have need of their services./ She quickly persuaded she had no need for assassins, but instead hired them as guards for the Montilyet's new trading vessels./ Rivaini pirates looking to rekindle an ancient feud soon learned the Montilyet's ships were not lightly boarded, and her house prospered greatly."

 

Edit: Added the missing lines


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We do have evidence of mindless dwarves being found protecting Titans (forgot their names, but the dwarves in the bottom levels of Descent). So I think it is certainly possible dwarves were mindless early in their history.
I doubt the Evanuris were preparing to fight dragons post ascension. Everything we have seems to point to the Evanuris being closely associated with dragons. I suspect the Evanuris had tamed the mightiest dragons prior to their ascension to godhood.

Shal Brytal? I probably spelled that wrong. Those dwarves chose to turn themselves into monsters, sealing themselves in lyrium infused armor fused to their skin. Valta indicates that they aren't connected to the Titan. I think they were on the other side of whatever schism separated the dwarves from the Titans. Where most of the dwarves separated and erased all mention of the Titans, these turned themselves into monsters in a misguided attempt to dedicate themselves to the Titans.

Only Mythal has shown an affiliation with dragons. Lesser dragons maybe they could, but the Great Dragons and the Old Gods are indicated to be more than wild beasts. I doubt they could be tamed.

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well... playing on hard about 4 hours for me. Still it concludes the story in a nice way and I want the soundtrack now..... oh and you are in for a shock at the end for your inquisitor. I really got to "hand" it to the inquisitor they had a rough life. 

 

Oh and Tevinter imperium seems like that is going to be the next area for the dragon age story. 

 

My Inquisitor used all of the elbow grease he could to get through that mission.



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Anyone who has the dlc already, playing it with an Inky that romanced Solas? I'm dying to know what happens...;_;


it's very touching. But more of the same I am sad to say (and I really did feel sad, very sad). I felt pretty much the same way at the end of this as I did at the end of DAI, just not angry because now you know what he is. He is a manipulative, complex, intelligent, emotionally torn, single-minded, aggravating pain with a fantastic voice actor who you just want to skewer with your dagger and tenderly stroke his bald shiny head at the same time. you can't make him come with you back to Skyhold; no happily ever after for us. It does seem he will be around for next time though.

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btw, does anyone have a video/link to a breakup with Solas scene from Trespasser? I lack the courage to see it on my own Inq...



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Bioware just revealed the protagonist for DA4. Here he is !

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This is funnier than it should be lol

Also, insanely accurate :D
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In at least one of Sera's ending slides that I've seen, Quizzie replaces it with a crossbow.  Quizzie confirmed for Archer Rogue?

That's Fu*king cool 



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Cole believes in Solas. Cole believes Solas is redeemable. I trusted Cole's viewpoint on other companions, particular when it came to Blackthom Wallrainier and  Machiavellian Vivienne.

If a Spirit of Compassion says that Solas can be redeemed, I believe that he truly can be redeemed.

 

It will take a lot of work but it will be worth it. Plus I like his theme music too much to let him die now.

 


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Cole believes in Solas. Cole believes Solas is redeemable. I trusted Cole's viewpoint on other companions, particular when it came to Blackthom Wallrainier and  Machiavellian Vivienne.

If a Spirit of Compassion says that Solas can be redeemed, I believe that he truly can be redeemed.

 

It will take a lot of work but it will be worth it. Plus I like his theme music too much to let him die now.

 

 

Cole and Solas in my team forever and ever and ever.



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Did anyone else notice that Solas LEAVES Lavellan to die?  It looked like he took Adaar's arm, but I THINK he wanted Lavellan's death to be quick, but COULDN'T do it himself.  WOW...what an ending though...