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[Ariella]

But not to everything:
 
- no origin stories (!)
- no healing (which many people wanted)
- no Kal'Sharok (spelling?)
- only one country again
- etc.

This is a joke, right? First you're in Ferelden and Orlais, the latter which we've never been before. Ka'Sharok isn't anywhere near where they're telling the story. Healing spells were removed because lore since origins has stated that healing is difficult and cannot be done in combat. Now I disagree with the last, but it's not an arbitrary decision. Origin stories would have screwed the narrative something fierce.
 

So while they are listening, they are sometimes only listening to what they want to hear it seems

Just because they listen doesn't mean everything people want is going to work with the game they're trying to build. Your claim of Kal'Sharok is a perfect example. It wasn't anywhere near where the story was going to be set. Just because you ask for something doesn't mean you'll get it, but it also doesn't mean you've been ignored.

People wanted a more Citadel experience with their companions, and guess what: Trespasser.
 

What I've gathered so far from topics like this is that -
 
1 - awards/ reviews don't count, since they are all bought. Unless it's for a game that isn't DA, then its proof that this other game is better.
 
2 - statements from Bioware about how well Inquisition did are meaningless. Statements about well DA2 did are very important.
 
3 - numerous opinions from people posting about how much they enjoyed DAI don't count. Ones about how much they didn't enjoy it do count.

Pretty much.

[Majestic Jazz]

10 More days until we see how DAI fares against the heavy hitters at the Golden Joystick Awards.....

 

http://www.gamesrada...ctober-30-2015/

[Al Foley]

I will laugh so hard if it wins. 

[Elhanan]

Rather keep it mind that so-called fans are pulling against Bioware. Now we have to go no further to go for quotes when they try and grab that 'Fan' title again.
 

[Majestic Jazz]

I will laugh so hard if it wins. 

 

 

Honestly, I would to, but because this is being chosen by the people, and judging on how DAI is received today by many gamers, I highly doubt DAI would get voted as GOTY, especially against MGS5 and The Witcher 3. I always held the stance that DAI winning all those GOTYs was more about novelty and not having stronger competition. Now that the novelty has worn off, as well as worn off of MGS5 and TW3, it would be interesting to see how DAI stacks up with the gamers in terms of what they believe is the GOTY. 

 

Again, 10 more days.....

 

Game of the Year

1. Batman: Arkham Knight (Warner)
2. Dragon Age: Inquisition (EA)
3. Destiny (Activision)
4. Bloodborne (Sony)
5. Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (Namco Bandai)
6. Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate (Capcom)
7. Life Is Strange (Square)
8. Ori and the Blind Forest (Microsoft)
9. Kerbal Space Program (Squad / Steam)
10. PES 2016 (Konami)
11. Her Story (Sam Barlow)
12. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (Konami)

 

Rather keep it mind that so-called fans are pulling against Bioware. Now we have to go no further to go for quotes when they try and grab that 'Fan' title again.
 

 

Mind you I voted for ME: Andromeda as the most wanted game for 2016. But I guess that doesn't count because that isn't your beloved Dragon Age: Inquisition.

[Al Foley]

 

Honestly, I would to, but because this is being chosen by the people, and judging on how DAI is received today by many gamers, I highly doubt DAI would get voted as GOTY, especially against MGS5 and The Witcher 3. 

 

 

 

Mind you I voted for ME: Andromeda as the most wanted game for 2016.

 

Judging on how DA I has been recieved by gamers, at least the ones I talk to, interact with, and read, I would think it would be close.  Mind you I think the Witcher 3 will likely win because in your face violence.  Wow.  So mature.  Such action. 

[Nefla]

What I've gathered so far from topics like this is that -

 

1 - awards/ reviews don't count, since they are all bought. Unless it's for a game that isn't DA, then its proof that this other game is better.

 

2 - statements from Bioware about how well Inquisition did are meaningless. Statements about well DA2 did are very important.

 

3 - numerous opinions from people posting about how much they enjoyed DAI don't count. Ones about how much they didn't enjoy it do count.

And what I've gathered from threads like this is:

 

1-Awards and professional reviews are the most important thing, any criticisms stem from someone being too stupid to know how to play the game or secretly enjoying the game but lying about it.

 

2-Sales numbers mean the game is objectively perfect and any critical opinions are irrelevant and made up.

 

3-Numerous opinions from people posing about how much they were disappointed in DA:I don't count. Ones about how awesome the game was and how not one detail should be changed do count.

[Majestic Jazz]

Judging on how DA I has been recieved by gamers, at least the ones I talk to, interact with, and read, I would think it would be close.  Mind you I think the Witcher 3 will likely win because in your face violence.  Wow.  So mature.  Such action. 

 

It is true that many gamers who like TW3 are in love of it because of their liberal stance on violence and sexuality. However to act like that is the ONLY reason behind TW3's popularity is to be really be blind. I mean, TW2 had just as much violence and MORE explict sex scenes and TW2 wasn't as popular as TW3 is.

 

There are many people such as myself that likes TW3 because of the quality of side quest (Think Bloody Baron, which is also up for a Best Gaming Moment award) as well as the open world immersion. 

[DarthLaxian]

What I've gathered so far from topics like this is that -

 

1 - awards/ reviews don't count, since they are all bought. Unless it's for a game that isn't DA, then its proof that this other game is better.

 

2 - statements from Bioware about how well Inquisition did are meaningless. Statements about well DA2 did are very important.

 

3 - numerous opinions from people posting about how much they enjoyed DAI don't count. Ones about how much they didn't enjoy it do count.

 

And how is all that important to someones personal opinion? (I am not going out to shop for opinions -.- I try to have my own, thank you very much -.-)

 

Reviewers tend to be more generous than I am, so my opinions tend to be harsher then theirs!

 

How well a game does on the market does NOTHING for me, it does not change my opinion in the slightest! (even if it sells so well that you can buy a small country with the money means nothing to me if I think it's total crap (example: lots of people like Minecraft - I myself don't like that game at all as it seems pointless and doesn't have the things I am looking for, like a great story and good looking graphics!))

 

No, the opinions of others don't matter to me personally - they might enjoy something (which is FINE btw. I don't hate/dislike somebody because of that - unless it's liking something like slavery or something equally distasteful!), great and I might hate it, so what? - Big deal!

 

greetings LAX

[Al Foley]

It is true that many gamers who like TW3 are in love of it because of their liberal stance on violence and sexuality. However to act like that is the ONLY reason behind TW3's popularity is to be really be blind. I mean, TW2 had just as much violence and MORE explict sex scenes and TW2 wasn't as popular as TW3 is.

 

There are many people such as myself that likes TW3 because of the quality of side quest (Think Bloody Baron, which is also up for a Best Gaming Moment award) as well as the open world immersion. 

Bloody Baron was a main quest.  

 

And sure, I wasn't arguing it was.  But that seems to be the tenor of many of the debates and the arguments from a lot of people that just because the Witcher bashes you over the head with mature content matter that makes it a mature game, while DA I does not, and thus is not considered a mature game while both have buckets of maturity.  

[Majestic Jazz]

Bloody Baron was a main quest.  

 

And sure, I wasn't arguing it was.  But that seems to be the tenor of many of the debates and the arguments from a lot of people that just because the Witcher bashes you over the head with mature content matter that makes it a mature game, while DA I does not, and thus is not considered a mature game while both have buckets of maturity.  

 

Well it depends on what the person percieves as "maturity". To some, it could simply be violence and sex in which TW3 has. To others, it could mean tackling issues in a manner that does not care about being politically correct and offending anyone such as rape, poverty, the effects of war on a land (which DAI is good at, but TW3 extends it to another level), homosexuality and other themes and issues which TW3 handles in a more grim way than DAI does.

 

Think of the TV Show, The Wire. It was a mature and grim show but it wasn't because of violence and sex. It just depicted the drug/crime culture of Baltimore in a realistic and gritty way that most other shows do not dare touch on. 

[Nefla]

Bloody Baron was a main quest.  

 

And sure, I wasn't arguing it was.  But that seems to be the tenor of many of the debates and the arguments from a lot of people that just because the Witcher bashes you over the head with mature content matter that makes it a mature game, while DA I does not, and thus is not considered a mature game while both have buckets of maturity.  

It was a good game with a good story, characters, really fun sidequests, well developed character relationships, etc...simple enough.

[Al Foley]

It was a good game with a good story, characters, really fun sidequests, well developed character relationships, etc...simple enough.

All of which DA I also had.  At least in my opinion. 

[TheOrangeProject]

Judging on how DA I has been recieved by gamers, at least the ones I talk to, interact with, and read, I would think it would be close.  Mind you I think the Witcher 3 will likely win because in your face violence.  Wow.  So mature.  Such action. 

 

 

So what makes DA:I special? Because I can't see anything special about DA:I. At least witcher has action then.

 

Don't get me wrong, DA:I is good in some aspects and more or less average in others, overall a good game but with some serious flaws which makes it hard to enjoy sometimes. 

 

 

Good Story: Check.

Characters: Very check.

Developed Character Realtionships: Yes, better imo than in DA:O. 

Really fun sidequests: No. Huge amout of repetitive stuff. 

 

Bugs aside: Combat is...no. Not the mechanic is bad, but is badly done. AI stuck. Characters frozen. Sometimes they don't use skills because their have to "adjust" their position. Lack of variety regarding class and specialisations - just to name a few. Menus are just woah confusing. I bet I am not the only one who had real trouble actually to equip stuff. This is a counterintuitive hence a bad concept.

 

I remember older Bioware games very well regarding the above stated problem and they did some things way better. Keep the good and take the bad out.

[Elhanan]

Honestly, I would to, but because this is being chosen by the people, and judging on how DAI is received today by many gamers, I highly doubt DAI would get voted as GOTY, especially against MGS5 and The Witcher 3. I always held the stance that DAI winning all those GOTYs was more about novelty and not having stronger competition. Now that the novelty has worn off, as well as worn off of MGS5 and TW3, it would be interesting to see how DAI stacks up with the gamers in terms of what they believe is the GOTY. 
 
Again, 10 more days.....
 
Game of the Year

• 
  
• Batman: Arkham Knight (Warner)
• Dragon Age: Inquisition (EA)
• Destiny (Activision)
• Bloodborne (Sony)
• Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (Namco Bandai)
• Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate (Capcom)
• Life Is Strange (Square)
• Ori and the Blind Forest (Microsoft)
• Kerbal Space Program (Squad / Steam)
• PES 2016 (Konami)
• Her Story (Sam Barlow)
• Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (Konami)

Mind you I voted for ME: Andromeda as the most wanted game for 2016. But I guess that doesn't count because that isn't your beloved Dragon Age: Inquisition.

And I continue to read the anti-DAI/ Bioware rhetoric due to biased hatred of the game. Seems rather shallow and pathetic, IMO.

[TheOrangeProject]

And I continue to read the anti-DAI/ Bioware rhetoric due to biased hatred of the game. Seems rather shallow and pathetic, IMO.

 

Complaining about bugs and a repetitive questsystem has nothing to do with hatred or beeing "pathetic".

 

Btw offtopic:

As far as I can tell the word pathetic is highly negative connoted hence often used offensive. The IMO part doens't change a thing about that. Just having a opinion doesn't justify it magically.

[introverted_assassin]

it's like at least 30 pages of the same two sn's caping incessantly and/or excessively hard for this game. i cannot even take it serious. especially when you have a rebuttal for every position offered that differs from yours. just makes me think you like seeing your sn in this thread...

nah.

[TevinterSupremacist]

Ah, yes "x is better because it's a more mature game". Maturity as a criterion for interactive virtual toys about make-believe stories in fantasy land.

 

 

Never fails to make me giggle.

[EmperorSahlertz]

What I've gathered so far from topics like this is that -

 

1 - awards/ reviews don't count, since they are all bought. Unless it's for a game that isn't DA, then its proof that this other game is better.

 

2 - statements from Bioware about how well Inquisition did are meaningless. Statements about well DA2 did are very important.

 

3 - numerous opinions from people posting about how much they enjoyed DAI don't count. Ones about how much they didn't enjoy it do count.

Funny how the EXACT opposite of this, seems to be true aswell...

[Nefla]

All of which DA I also had.  At least in my opinion. 

Not in my opinion.

[Elhanan]

Complaining about bugs and a repetitive questsystem has nothing to do with hatred or beeing "pathetic".
 
Btw offtopic:
As far as I can tell the word pathetic is highly negative connoted hence often used offensive. The IMO part doens't change a thing about that. Just having a opinion doesn't justify it magically.

Constructive criticism about bugs and other systems is not hateful. However, what I often see is not constructive; just hate. And pathetic does describe it rather well.

[Abyss108]

Funny how the EXACT opposite of this, seems to be true aswell...

 

I disagree. 

 

I don't see many people saying talking about how DA got awards, also claiming that reviews for other games don't count and were bought.

 

I don't see many people who claim that Bioware's statements only count for Inquisition.

 

I don't see many people who liked Inquisition telling people that didn't like it, that they are objectively wrong. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

I disagree. 

 

I don't see many people saying talking about how DA got awards, also claiming that reviews for other games don't count and were bought.

 

I don't see many people who claim that Bioware's statements only count for Inquisition.

 

I don't see many people who liked Inquisition telling people that didn't like it, that they are objectively wrong. 

1: No.. They just claim that the fact that the fact that DA:I got some GOTY awards, that it is a sign of god, that this game is indisputably a master piece.

 

2: Nobody claims that. But prior to DA:I, ME3 was the most succesful launch of any BioWare game, and not many would consider ME3 a succes, despite its financial and critical succes.

 

3: Then you aren't paying attention.

 

 

Bonus info:

The games on the left ALL recieved Game of the Year awards, in the SAME year. So obviously the GOTYs are worthless, but hey, if you want to be a sheep and think that the sticker is any indication of quality, then be my guest.

[Elhanan]

Comparing a gaming shop to the Gaming Industry itself. Yeah; seems objective to me....

[IanPolaris]

Comparing a gaming shop to the Gaming Industry itself. Yeah; seems objective to me....

 

Point: Missing it.  What the picture shows is a game shop has to reserve an entire shelf for games that got "GOTY" all in the same year.  That indicates how many different game gets this award in one fashion or another, making it essentially worthless as an objective tool to evaluate the quality of the game.