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[Al Foley]

Wait the Inquisitor losses their arm?  How did I not notice it?  I thought her arm was fine.  Kara is an archer this is devestating!

[9TailsFox]

Wait the Inquisitor losses their arm?  How did I not notice it?  I thought her arm was fine.  Kara is an archer this is devestating!

[Al Foley]

I see where that analogy is coming from, but the fact is, it would be even worse than that. The Archdemon had no personal emotional build-up with HOF before hand. They didn't interact with each other, build a relationship etc. Not to be overly dramatic, but not following up properly with Solas+Inquisitor would be the biggest mistake of this Franchise to date. Maybe their philosophy has changed with Patrick taking over, he has made it clear he knows the players emotional investment is important before. But the Inquisitor NEEDS, absolutely NEEDS to be at that Final Showdown, and we need to be the one who controls what comes out of their mouth in that moment. If this does not happen, then it is proof to me, that the writer's do not understand what they've created. 

Well lets face it though without an arm in such a 'fight' the Inquisitor will be useless.  

 

Besides at this point there likely will be no final fight with Solas.  He has the mark, he is a god whether he wants to admit it or not.  You saw what he did to those Qunari.  Any battle with him is liable to be one of ideaology...which actually puts the Inquisitor back in play.  You know it would be cool if we get to jump back into the Inquisitor at the end of the series to finalize this conflict once and for all.

 

"See, I told you old friend."

[9TailsFox]

Well lets face it though without an arm in such a 'fight' the Inquisitor will be useless.  

 

Besides at this point there likely will be no final fight with Solas.  He has the mark, he is a god whether he wants to admit it or not.  You saw what he did to those Qunari.  Any battle with him is liable to be one of ideaology...which actually puts the Inquisitor back in play.  You know it would be cool if we get to jump back into the Inquisitor at the end of the series to finalize this conflict once and for all.

 

"See, I told you old friend."

If Inquisitor is mage you don't need arm. If archer/warrior Dagna can make cool lyrium infused arm. And final battle be Solas vs Sandal. Solas turn Sandal to stone. Sandal now I am really child of the stone  I think it will be elf's vs dwarf/titans. Solas leading elf's Sandal/leader of Titans leading dwarfs.

[Al Foley]

If Inquisitor is mage you don't need arm. If archer/warrior Dagna can make cool lyrium infused arm. And final battle be Solas vs Sandal. Solas turn Sandal to stone. Sandal now I am really child of the stone  I think it will be elf's vs dwarf/titans. Solas leading elf's Sandal/leader of Titans leading dwarfs.

Like Giants in a sandbox.  

 

You know I could see the next protag, with all this coming to light, being an agent of the Inquisition/ Trevelyan for the next game.

[Bombadyl]

I see my male Inky, having been betrayed by a party member who from the start had rather intuitive knowledge of the breech and seemed to be holding back, lose an arm and thus changed, both physically and mentally.   After all, betrayal is so harsh because it is the slaughter of hope.  Being a 'different' man, aware that my former colleague has intent on destroying my world, I become a darker person, less trusting, and while my Inky wanted to redeem someone he thought was a friend or at least trusted companion, he may no longer feel this way after stewing over the events.  Time can both heal and be a corrosive agent.  

 

Inky, knowing that spies are in his midst, goes underground and obsessively seeks out a way to stop his former companion, searching for just the right group of people with the right skills to track Solas down undetected, then spring into action to prevent the Dred Wolf from continuing his chain of errors born in hubris.

 

Steeped in angst for not being able to retire on an island villa off the coast of Gwaren, amid his orchards and honeysuckle, he revels in the single thought that at least he didn't romance that walking disaster.

[FXi]

I kept trying to save him to the end - felt the character had done that for nearly everyone and it was the core nature of the my Inquisitor.  Morrigan was about the only one she cut out but even then, only gently (Inquisitor drank the Well of Sorrows).  Seemed like the proper angst and plight of the forlorn and possibly his only hope of redemption and cancelling his goals or at least altering them.

 

Kept the Inquisition intact but smaller peacekeepers.  Again, just my take but that's what people come here to share, their take.

 

 

 

 

[Kamon89]

I think, if they are to appear in future games, the Inquisitor would not have a similar role to Hawke in Inquisition. There was something very deliberate about them saying their 'adventuring days' were over, no?

[RawThunderHustle]

Wait the Inquisitor losses their arm?  How did I not notice it?  I thought her arm was fine.  Kara is an archer this is devestating!

 

Its a scratch, not an arrow to the knee *slaps knee*

[SlottsMachine]

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[Boost32]

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Wow, what eloquent necro post!

[Cobra's_back]

Varric gave me a title and the key to the city. I'm set for life. He also gave my clan some political power.

[Dai Grepher]

My Inquisitor is a Rift Mage. So he can just call Stone Fist from the Fade and use that.

[Nefla]

Sad how so many people think that losing an arm will make the inquisitor completely helpless

[TheChosenOne]

Sad how so many people think that losing an arm will make the inquisitor completely helpless

That's perfect. We'll defeat Solas with a well placed roundhouse kick!

[Nefla]

That's perfect. We'll defeat Solas with a well placed roundhouse kick!

It would be satisfying lol

[TheRevanchist]

Sad how so many people think that losing an arm will make the inquisitor completely helpless

 

I think it says a lot about the general ignorance of our modern world when people believe that a simple missing limp is basically being given a death sentence, thrown in a wheelchair and mourned, lost and forgotten. Or perhaps that is merely the excuse they cling to, to use as their justification for yet another new character without taking that stance officially. Who really knows, all I know is, it is indeed sad how many people think this way. 

[Nefla]

I think it says a lot about the general ignorance of our modern world when people believe that a simple missing limp is basically being given a death sentence, thrown in a wheelchair and mourned, lost and forgotten. Or perhaps that is merely the excuse they cling to, to use as their justification for yet another new character without taking that stance officially. Who really knows, all I know is, it is indeed sad how many people think this way. 

To me, the missing arm is just an excuse to kick more people (and/or set them on fire)

[oflavellan]

I always read these threads and come out with more questions and mixed feelings than I had coming into them   I've finally plucked up the courage to make an account and chime in (hello) with an opinion that nobody asked for.

 

Everyone has made some really interesting/great points and I find myself agreeing with them all while I'm reading them, leaving me still confused about what happens to the Inquisitor after the arm thing. Are they gonna die? Are they ~cured~? we just don't know. Justinia tells us in the fade during HLTA that the mark will ultimately kill you (or something to that effect, I can't remember her exact words), which lead me to believe that, yes, the inquisitor will eventually die due to the effects the mark has had on them, even after the arm is removed.

 

WHICH....is kind of messing me up when I start thinking about LIs. sweats. Apart from companions losing wives/husbands/whatever, how will it impact a romanced Dorian in the next game, assuming he will be playing a significant role in it, if the inquisitor does die? tfw one day amatus stops answering your message crystal skype calls. 

 

Anyway, whatever role, however big or small, that our inquisitors end up having in the next game, if our new PC does make it to Solas I would be so salty if my Inquisitor doesn't make a proper cameo to confront him. It just feels way too personal to let somebody else takeover, especially if you're trying to redeem Solas, romanced or not.

 

As for disbanding, I really couldn't decide what to do on my first playthrough, but thinking back to the very start, when you speak to Mother Giselle in Haven and ask about the inquisition, she tells you that it's meant to lay itself to rest once it's purpose has been fulfilled. It kind of felt like the right thing to do, for me at least. I felt like it would make the transition from this PC to the next a little smoother.

 

Anyway, I found almost everything about this DLC enjoyable, even with some of the question marks that it left me. I felt like the conclusions for your companions and LIs were pretty good and I felt so good reading through the epilogue at the end of all my playthroughs, fuzzy and happy with a tear or two in my eye 

 

edit: this is...longer than i had planned sorry

[CardButton]

Alright I know I'm probably late to the party, but I think this is perfect excuse for those awful Sha-Brytol enemies to actually be used for something constructive and get my Lavellan back in the fight.  I mean they're essentially using Lyrium based power suits, I can not imagine it would take an unreasonable amount of work for Dagna to jerry rig up a decent prosthetic out of that armor.  Hell, Valta most certainly owes the Quizzy one (and has no love for the Sha-Brytol) and I don't think it would take to much prodding to get Varric to guilt trip Bianca to assist with the mechanical components.

 

At bare minimum it would make "The Descent" something more than a pretty grind fest with a miserable final boss fight.

[srabana]

I didn't think we'd lose it at the elbow.  That kinda sucks - would have preferred just the hand.

 

It's hard being Solas' girlfriend.  Takes your heart, takes your tattoos, then takes your limb.

The only thing he does not take is you....

[srabana]

Allright I've read all the threads and they are all pretty cool . I mean everyone has some great points... But there are few things I am still confused about . In the end Solas says he wants to destroy the veil. I mean that was his plan all along right and he is going to do it even if it destroys this world and kills everyone in it then why did he help inquisitor to stop corypheus in the first place ? corypheus wanted the same thing well almost the same thing . He could've let corypheus destroy the veil and then kill him .It would've been much more easier . Well he said he was not strong enough to defeat corypheus or to open the orb. Then again he could've gone to mythal sooner , ask for help or petrify her the way he did later..And for his motives to destroy everything I can understand that . I mean you fought your whole life to free your people only to wake from hibernation thousands of years later to find that they are slaves again to some aliens . That is enough for someone to go crazy . But then again he fought his fellow evanuris and banished them for trying to destroy the world which he is about to do now .

 

And as for keeping inquisition or disbanding it , I kept it cause inquisitor worked really hard for it , she fought an archdemon ,almost died for what only to disband it cause two ungrateful nations orlais and ferelden are afraid !!! No that is not going to happen.

 

Though it really sucks to loose an arm but we always knew power like that does not come without a price. As for Solas I still think we can redeem him .He cares about inquisitor deeply whether he wants to admit it or not . But the inquisitor must be the one to do that cause everything started with them , so I think they are tied together somehow. Besides flemeth called her the harbinger in the fade and said she has some job for her ..

[9TailsFox]

Allright I've read all the threads and they are all pretty cool . I mean everyone has some great points... But there are few things I am still confused about . In the end Solas says he wants to destroy the veil. I mean that was his plan all along right and he is going to do it even if it destroys this world and kills everyone in it then why did he help inquisitor to stop corypheus in the first place ? corypheus wanted the same thing well almost the same thing . He could've let corypheus destroy the veil and then kill him .It would've been much more easier . Well he said he was not strong enough to defeat corypheus or to open the orb. Then again he could've gone to mythal sooner , ask for help or petrify her the way he did later..And for his motives to destroy everything I can understand that . I mean you fought your whole life to free your people only to wake from hibernation thousands of years later to find that they are slaves again to some aliens . That is enough for someone to go crazy . But then again he fought his fellow evanuris and banished them for trying to destroy the world which he is about to do now .

 

And as for keeping inquisition or disbanding it , I kept it cause inquisitor worked really hard for it , she fought an archdemon ,almost died for what only to disband it cause two ungrateful nations orlais and ferelden are afraid !!! No that is not going to happen.

 

Though it really sucks to loose an arm but we always knew power like that does not come without a price. As for Solas I still think we can redeem him .He cares about inquisitor deeply whether he wants to admit it or not . But the inquisitor must be the one to do that cause everything started with them , so I think they are tied together somehow. Besides flemeth called her the harbinger in the fade and said she has some job for her ..

What Solas and Cory want is not the same. Cory just want power and to manipulate fade to his will and don't care who die in the process. Solas just want to fix world he destroyed, remove veil and minimise damage of magic returning and spirits/demons coming into "real" world. Solas don't want to destroy world like Cory did, we see in future.

[Qun00]

Gameplay wise, a few minor changes would be necessary. Warriors become limited to one-handed weapons. They should be also unable to equip a shield or use shield related skills.

Rogues are retired for life. Dual wielding requires two hands (duh) and so does using a bow.

Mages will be fine, though.

[Heimdall]

I think it says a lot about the general ignorance of our modern world when people believe that a simple missing limp is basically being given a death sentence, thrown in a wheelchair and mourned, lost and forgotten. Or perhaps that is merely the excuse they cling to, to use as their justification for yet another new character without taking that stance officially. Who really knows, all I know is, it is indeed sad how many people think this way. 

Well, I'm not saying that.  I've only met one one-armed person in my life (He'd lost his arm before birth to amniotic band constriction) but he was amazingly capable, able to drive, ride horses, and fly fish with ease.  Fantastic sense of humor too.

 

But it is undoubtedly a handicap for someone rushing into a life or death struggle.  Two handed weapons are out.  Rogues can't dual wield or use a bow.  The only way past that is contriving some magical prosthetic (Which rather defeats the argument that it somehow isn't a problem).  It doesn't need to be debilitating to be a big problem.  That's why I think it's clear Bioware wants to use this as a reason for the Inquisitor to leave the front lines even as they continue going after Solas.