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That was not mutual, he "killed" her to steal her power (but she knew he was going to do it). But yes, she will cheat death a third time.

 

Yeah I would say more like a willing sacrifice, but not cold-blooded murder. In fact for a moment I actually thought she was going for him with the look she had.


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I had a thought about a way to stop Solas without killing him.

 

We know he created the Veil and imprisoned the Elven rulers in such a way that they couldn't return.  I wonder if it is possible that we will have the choice to seal him away with them?  Seems like the sort of justice he would appreciate.  He sealed them away for their crimes against their people, we might be able to convince him that he deserves the same for his.

 

I also wonder if the reason we've got Circles and Colleges in every ending now is because we're going to need mages and Templars to either recreate the Veil or prevent it from falling.  We know that both can be used to fix a hole in the Veil, so maybe both will be able/necessary to stop Solas destroying it.


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Lol at people thinking they can kill Solas. The Evanuris (which he's part of) can't be killed so easily. The most you can do seal him up. Murder knifing him is an option, but futile.

 

Honestly, what makes him different from Corypheus? Corypheus did what he thought was right, he was just a loyal priest hoping to bring back the Old Gods. He woke up to find his nation on the verge of collapse and that he unintentionally brought the Blight and might've been deceived by the Old Gods.

 

He's fighting to restore Old Tevinter just as Solas is fighting to restore the Old Elvhen Empire.

 

Solas will use all those Elf soldiers and dispose of them just like he did with Felassan "The slow arrow breaks in the sad wolf's jaw" - Cole.

 

You can argue that "he feels sorry" for doing it, but the same can be said about what little we know about Corypheus: he felt sorry that he's going to bind the Drinker of the Well of Sorrows, especially Calpurnia. But it was all for the greater good.

 

Time will tell how he'll use his elf army though I doubt it won't be any different from Corypheus ... he'll actually know how to use all these ancient magic/ devises for one thing.

 

Solas has such a low opinion of the world that even if the Inquisitor's generation is able to convince that they're worth saving, what about future generations? There's nothing stopping him from doing it again.

 

He could have taken a page from Mythal and still help The People who call to "Asha' Bellanar" what's even more interesting is that Flemythal still refer to elves as The People which says alot

 

The main difference between them is characterization.


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Solas has to be killed, then man is racked with soo much guilt that the only way left is to kill him and put him at peace.



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I'm probably the only one here but.. I would like to see Solas' new world IF he does succeed. It will probably look magical.

And no I'm not a Solas fan. Not by a mile or 3.

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Bioware's created a weird precedent here. They set up the antagonist in the game previous to the one they're involved in. They go out of their way to connect the player character to the antagonist...

 

 

It's not that weird: previous antagonists like Loghain & Meredith were supposed to be ambiguous figures, but since their good-guys-past were either buried in the supplementary material (in Loghain's case) or merely hinted at (Meredith), many players simply saw them as villains who deserved to be slain as painfully as possible.

 

Here, they created ample opportunities for players to sympathize with Solas through his interactions with the Inquisitor, so when he comes back as the main antagonist, the audience won't ignore his ambiguity this time


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I'm probably the only one here but.. I would like to see Solas' new world IF he does succeed. It will probably look magical.

And no I'm not a Solas fan. Not by a mile or 3.

 

Sandal says it will happen.



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Lol at people thinking they can kill Solas. The Evanuris (which he's part of) can't be killed so easily. The most you can do seal him up. Murder knifing him is an option, but futile.

 

Honestly, what makes him different from Corypheus? Corypheus did what he thought was right, he was just a loyal priest hoping to bring back the Old Gods. He woke up to find his nation on the verge of collapse and that he unintentionally brought the Blight and might've been deceived by the Old Gods.

 

He's fighting to restore Old Tevinter just as Solas is fighting to restore the Old Elvhen Empire.

 

Solas will use all those Elf soldiers and dispose of them just like he did with Felassan "The slow arrow breaks in the sad wolf's jaw" - Cole.

 

You can argue that "he feels sorry" for doing it, but the same can be said about what little we know about Corypheus: he felt sorry that he's going to bind the Drinker of the Well of Sorrows, especially Calpurnia. But it was all for the greater good.

 

Time will tell how he'll use his elf army though I doubt it won't be any different from Corypheus ... he'll actually know how to use all these ancient magic/ devises for one thing.

 

Solas has such a low opinion of the world that even if the Inquisitor's generation is able to convince that they're worth saving, what about future generations? There's nothing stopping him from doing it again.

 

He could have taken a page from Mythal and still help The People who call to "Asha' Bellanar" what's even more interesting is that Flemythal still refer to elves as The People which says alot

 

The main difference between them is characterization.

Exactly, as you said, they are no different, it all depends on how their vision was presented. Corypheus worldview was much more demonized than Solas.



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its cause you cant bang Corypheus.  :P


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its cause you cant bang Corypheus.  :P

Make sense. hahaha


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I had a thought about a way to stop Solas without killing him.
 
We know he created the Veil and imprisoned the Elven rulers in such a way that they couldn't return.  I wonder if it is possible that we will have the choice to seal him away with them?  Seems like the sort of justice he would appreciate.  He sealed them away for their crimes against their people, we might be able to convince him that he deserves the same for his.
 
I also wonder if the reason we've got Circles and Colleges in every ending now is because we're going to need mages and Templars to either recreate the Veil or prevent it from falling.  We know that both can be used to fix a hole in the Veil, so maybe both will be able/necessary to stop Solas destroying it.

Solas will do something that will screw up Thedas even more, the best thing is just to kill him.

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I'm confused, so the evanuris are strong enough to kill the best of them- Mythal. Fen'Harel wasn't strong enough to kill them?



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Maybe strong enough together. Solas is just one guy. And Mythal wasn't the best as in strong, but the sanest of them all. She was wise and caring, while the others were nuts and bloodthirsty.



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I'm confused, so the evanuris are strong enough to kill the best of them- Mythal. Fen'Harel wasn't strong enough to kill them?

 

It think Solas wanted the Evanuris to suffer by being sealed for eternity rather than die.



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1. he says they can't be killed so easily

2. he says any alternatives to imprisoning them had even worse consequences

3. they murdered his good friend and he wanted them to suffer. 

 

it's explained.  :)



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If they cannot be killed, why he would fear Andruil or Anaris? or how Mythal was killed, now he drained her, she is gone isn't she? Perhaps there is not an Evanuir on each corner, but we still have six Magisters, a Titan, the Queen of Dragons, 2-3 Old Gods and the Formless One, one of them should be able to challenge Solas.

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Next time I see him there won't be any talking

 

Just a sword in his body, where it enters depends on how much he annoyed me before that.


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I am Elvhen, yet I agree.

 

The man who calls himself Pride, or the Dread Wolf, has to die. There is no alternative.

 

Banal'dareth, Fen'Harel. Emma din'an ne. Ma'nan tel'felas.



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I'm confused, so the evanuris are strong enough to kill the best of them- Mythal. Fen'Harel wasn't strong enough to kill them?


Maybe strong enough together. I doubt Fen'harel was strong enough to outright kill all of them. And you have to remember that even though Mythal was murdered, part of her survived and made it to Flemeth. Even if he had killed them all, fragments might have survived and influenced the world, just like Flemeth did.

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Solas has a very different body language even towards a romanced Inquisitor as if he is attempting to keep a certain mask that you see the cracks of during certain parts of the scene. It is very formal and stoic which I see as fitting as he is trying to distance himself from you least he falls into old habits and familiar feelings and gives too much away about his plotting or his guilt over yours and others' fate compromises him.

 

To put it in another way: Solas was expressive and relatively open in comparison both emotionally and eventually intellectually - he was doubting. Fen'Harel is stoic and closed in comparison both emotionally and intellectually - he needs to not doubt.
 

Pretty much if your are friends or in a romance he cracks at various points in his dialogue props to the voice actor as well. I could feel the regret oozing from his lines. When he told me to grab his hand I knew what was coming considering what was going on with the mark. Still the end scene was pretty grand gonna save my bro solas from himself that's the plan, well he is going to aid the person confronting solas. 

 

Man DA4 seems so far away. :(



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Next time I see him there won't be any talking

 

Just a sword in his body, where it enters depends on how much he annoyed me before that.

my plan is to wipeout the dalish clan by clan till he gets mad....then ill start on the city pointy eared lot..then ill breed the halla with nugs..that'll make him think twice



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my plan is to wipeout the dalish clan by clan till he gets mad....then ill start on the city pointy eared lot..then ill breed the halla with nugs..that'll make him think twice

 

I don't blame the elves for Solas. He can die without the elves following suit.


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Can we let Sandal take the crap out of him? He cannot stand an Enchantment right?
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I don't blame the elves for Solas. He can die without the elves following suit.

ok...you think its a bit ott.....can i still breed the halla with nugs? or would fennec be more acceptable?



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Next time I see him there won't be any talking

 

Just a sword in his body, where it enters depends on how much he annoyed me before that.

 

It's amusing that people think they can beat someone that has the power to turn others into stone with an blink. I guess being Inquisitor really made people get over their heads. The likelihood is that you're the one ripped to shreds next time you meet Solas.


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