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[DuskWanderer]

Got through it today, not bad. 

 

 

Going through and seeing everyone at the Winter Palace was actually kinda fun. Bull's build-up with the dragon skull was significantly better than the revelation of it. I kinda wanted them to fill the skull with booze and dump it on him. Sera hitting people with cheese (and concluding with cheesing each other) was absolutely hilarious. Cullen with a dog was hilarious, Josephine's ball was pretty funny. It had that ME3 Citadel feel to it. 

 

Yay on hats! Mother Giselle's hat looked like it belonged on a person now.

 

Arl Teagan was significantly more of an ass than I thought he would be. I get that 10 years can change a person, but where was the friendly guy who was the voice of reason. I did like Duke Cyril. He was scheming and so Orlesian, but at least he was pleasant about it. 

 

I don't think anyone explained how the qunari chanced upon the eluvian network, nor how they opened it. It smells more like forced plot than anything the Qun could have dreamed up. 

 

The first section in the elven tower place was beautiful, but plodded along and didn't seem to advance the plot much. I ran through the first purple fire and got the prize, but I was confused until I got the first anchor power.

 

If you're going to give new anchor powers, the best place to put it was where the mounts were. I never really used the horses anyway. 

 

Reading the story of the Dread Wolf gave me, if not a new perspective, than a new appreciation for what Solas did against the elves. The gods enslaved and killed, and Solas stood apart from that. I liked it. 

 

The second level in the Deep Roads was probably even more beautiful than the Descent, which was already gorgeous. Unfortunately, it was quickly marred by bugs. In this section, making choices in conversations caused lag for over a minute after making a choice, and the Inquisitor talking. This was only in this area. It also happened in actions like climbing ladders (one would say climb, then nothing would happen. If you moved, eventually after a few minutes, he'd start climbing in mid-air, reach the top, and fall.) It also crashed numerous times. These must be addressed. 

 

I felt for that templar guy who left the Qun. I was upset when he was killed. 

 

Killing the qunari gave me a certain amount of pleasure. Part of it was my general hate for them, part of it was the templar guy. I was motivated to kill them, probably even more than Corypheus.

 

The elven library was annoying to path and navigate through. I spent way too much time on that puzzle with the veilfire getting that unique sword.

 

The main antagonist, the qunari lady, I'm not exactly sure what her role was under the Qun, was it ever clarified? 

 

If you're going to give me a spirit nuke power, at least BioWARE had the courtesy to let me use it against the Qunari. 

 

I had forgotten to do Iron Bull's quest, and he showed up to join the Qun. I put him down like a rabid dog and didn't look back.

 

The final boss battle with the huge mage was sort of a space flea out of nowhere. He wasn't all that tough, just long. The Titan in Descent was a tougher boss. 

 

I'm okay with Solas turning that qunari lady to stone, but couldn't I at least smash her with my spirit nuke? She deserved it for basically being Anders 2.0. 

 

Solas is a genocidal racist who deserves to die. Even if he "relishes being wrong", he's okay with slaughtering humans and dwarves just to help elves, who he admits doesn't deserve the old world anyway, and is willing to unleash the evil elven gods again because they are elves. When it comes down to it, Solas learned nothing. He underestimated Corypheus, he was wrong about everything. I can see nothing in him worth saving. 

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Even before the DLC I said Solas will die. I will keep my word soon

[JasonPogo]

Well we will be a whole new character in DA4.  So we will not have as much baggage as the Inquisitor.  It might make killing or letting him go easier. 

[Jaison1986]

Do we get an option to want to "save" Solas if we are not in a romance with him?

[Knight of Dane]

Nah the titan was a scrub. The Sarebaas was not really tough either, he just had so much dang HP. Plus I was low on potions. Good thing I brough Vivienne.

[JasonPogo]

Do we get an option to want to "save" Solas if we are not in a romance with him?

 

yes you can choose "I will find a way to redeem you" or something very similar.  I did not pick it.
 

[Antonio246]

Good story, but the ending could do with a few changes.

1. DON'T LOP OF MY ARM!!!
2. There should be an option for the Inquisition to continue on without pledging allegiance to anyone except the Inquisitor (basically tell the nobles to stick it up there asses). I'm the Inquisitor! I bow to no one!
3. The fact that the Inquisitor goes from being "The Herald of Andraste" to a powerless cripple is probably what annoyed me most after the arm thing. I go from dancing in the winter palace to being nobody. And Cullen takes my leadership of the "new inquisition". I feel like a used up hanky.
4. Please let me go back to my Skyhold.

But yeah I dunno what happened. Starting this DLC I was hoping to keep the inquisition as it IS or rather WAS now than to have to choose between service to the Divine or disbanding it. One does not simple disband an enormous Inquisition. It's like poof. 

 

Oh yeah, then you got good old Solas...If I didn't want to kill him then, I do now. He fixed my hand the first time but instead of fixing it a second time NOOO, just decides to cut it off. I mean WTF! You don't just do that! I was the great and powerful Inquistior and now I'm a crippled mage. I started this DLC hoping he wasn't gonna die like Shep, but right now I'm wishing he did die. And I can't return to my good old Skyhold :'( pls fix that. Pretty pls Bioware? I'll give you an inquisition cookie?

 

And finally: there's this really weird glitch where I chose Celene and Briala but Arl Teagen says: "the inquisition is the only reason Gaspard sits on the throne" when I distinctly remember Celene ordering his execution. So thats something to fix.

 

So thats it, everyone leaves, I can't go back to skyhold, Cullen leads the Inquisition according to the end credits and Solas cut MY GOD DAM HAND OFF!!! My Inquisitor and I feel used and abused. Well, I just feel used, but Inqy feels used and abused. And I'm starting to hate elves in every game: the Altmer (Thalmor) in TES, the Aen Elle in Witcher. God dam elves ruin everything for everyone.

 

I'm curious though, the Golden City, was it perhaps an elven city? Perhaps thats where the elven gods are. perhaps they created the blight.

[Rappeldrache]

Good story, but the ending could do with a few changes.

1. DON'T LOP OF MY ARM!!!
2. There should be an option for the Inquisition to continue on without pledging allegiance to anyone except the Inquisitor (basically tell the nobles to stick it up there asses). I'm the Inquisitor! I bow to no one!
3. The fact that the Inquisitor goes from being "The Herald of Andraste" to a powerless cripple is probably what annoyed me most after the arm thing. I go from dancing in the winter palace to being nobody. And Cullen takes my leadership of the "new inquisition". I feel like a used up hanky.
4. Please let me go back to my Skyhold.

But yeah I dunno what happened. Starting this DLC I was hoping to keep the inquisition as it IS or rather WAS now than to have to choose between service to the Divine or disbanding it. One does not simple disband an enormous Inquisition. It's like poof. 

 

Oh yeah, then you got good old Solas...If I didn't want to kill him then, I do now. He fixed my hand the first time but instead of fixing it a second time NOOO, just decides to cut it off. I mean WTF! You don't just do that! I was the great and powerful Inquistior and now I'm a crippled mage. I started this DLC hoping he wasn't gonna die like Shep, but right now I'm wishing he did die. And I can't return to my good old Skyhold :'( pls fix that. Pretty pls Bioware? I'll give you an inquisition cookie?

 

And finally: there's this really weird glitch where I chose Celene and Briala but Arl Teagen says: "the inquisition is the only reason Gaspard sits on the throne" when I distinctly remember Celene ordering his execution. So thats something to fix.

 

So thats it, everyone leaves, I can't go back to skyhold, Cullen leads the Inquisition according to the end credits and Solas cut MY GOD DAM HAND OFF!!! My Inquisitor and I feel used and abused. Well, I just feel used, but Inqy feels used and abused. And I'm starting to hate elves in every game: the Altmer (Thalmor) in TES, the Aen Elle in Witcher. God dam elves ruin everything for everyone.

 

I'm curious though, the Golden City, was it perhaps an elven city? Perhaps thats where the elven gods are. perhaps they created the blight.

 

 

@Antonio: THANKS so mutch! You wrote what I feel!

[Ferretinabun]

My two cents:

 

God, Teagan fell out of the Frostbite Ugly Tree and smashed his face on every single branch on the way down. Every. Single. One. 

[kupowark]

I just finished Trespasser and have so many feels, I must vent them somewhere safe, such that I don't spoiler the friends who haven't gotten through it yet.  Mostly babbling about the Solas storyline and DA4 possibilities.

 

In a nutshell: Trespasser thrilled me. I loved learning about yet another take on elven (elvhen?) history while going through the Elven Mountain Ruins and how it built upon the really strong hints from the base game that elven history and mythology as we knew it was corrupted and twisted by time and retelling. I also love how it built the premise for the next game taking place in the Tevinter Imperium and set Solas up as a believable (and, at least to me, sympathetic) villain in the next game.

 

Finding out that Solas originally planned to sacrifice Corypheus to utterly destroy the Veil - not just rip the Breach in it - and then manipulated the Inquisition into forming simply to eliminate the threat to his plans made an enormous amount of sense, particularly given his newly-revealed plans to replace the current world of Thedas with the world as he once knew it.  The way he spoke to the Inquisitor at the end implied his enormous guilt for the price elf-kind paid for their freedom: restoring Thedas, with its Tranquil-like people, to the way it once was is possibly his way of making up for having destroyed something so beautiful, connected, and wonderful.  Walking through the modern world of Thedas must feel like traveling through a faded watercolor to Solas: everything pale in comparison to the brilliance it held when the Fade and the physical world were one.

 

My Trevelyan Inquisitor - whom I've played as being thoughtful and level, rather than reactive, and befriended Solas - had a deep respect for Solas, and so pledged to do whatever she could to save him.  She also decided to disband the Inquisition, as it had achieved its original purpose of stopping Corypheus, healing the Breach, and restoring peace: as a reluctant Inquisitor serving only at the needs of the people, it seemed the right decision.  Hearing of how the Evanuris were corrupted elven mages mistaken unto gods, and how ancient elves were destroyed to save the world from them, only reinforced her own concerns of the Inquisition becoming corrupt after its purpose was served, especially if she and the other original leadership were to pass.  Allowing the Inquisition to remain, even if at the direction of Divine Victoria (Cassandra), when it had already been proven throughout Trespasser that it was prone to infiltration (both to Qunari and Fen'harel agents) and to corruption (with the Inquisition soldiers/lieutenants arrogantly asserting power over Orlesian or Fereldan forces repeatedly), seemed contrary to the honorable purpose that had formed the Inquisition's basis.

 

The epilogue - so satisfying after the brief, incomplete footnote after the base game - was so much more satisfying. My Inquisitor is busy playing Red Jenny with her crossbow arm alongside Sera, when she's not off farming or something with Cullen and their dog; Josephine is becoming a merchant queen; Leliana is quietly preparing herself for the next war; Cassandra is rebuilding the Seekers to some secret purpose while re-establishing peace; Varric has restored Kirkwall to a bastion of trade and power in the Free Marches; Dorian is leading anti-corruption efforts in Tevinter, where we'll probably re-encounter him in DA4; Vivienne is terrifying the College after becoming First Enchantress of the Circle; Cole is wandering the roads with his bard-girlfriend being a gentle badass; Iron Bull and the Chargers are galumping about Thedas as a mercenary band fighting Venatori and restoring peace; and Thom Rainier joined the Grey Wardens for real and continues to help people wherever he goes, like the bearded softie he is.

 

I'm delighted and so f***ing excited about the post-epilogue reveal that the original Inquisition leaders are quietly working against Solas, even though the official Inquisition has been disbanded. I love that they remain dedicated to the world's well-being even after the world turned against them.  The Inquisitor declaring that they will find people to work against Solas that Solas does not recognize seems like it'll be the new basis for DA4's hero(ine): a secret Inquisition's recruited agent for working against Solas in Tevinter?

 

And lastly, Cassandra's reading of Varric's new Inquisition-based book - specifically, his dialogue/description of the Inquisition characters, and her reaction - complete with voices and imitated accents over the credits had me howling with laughter. So awesome.

 

In conclusion, I really loved how Trespasser developed the mythology of Thedas and the story of Dragon Age even further, while concluding the stories of our Inquisition cast in a way more satisfying manner than the base game. The new levels we got to explore in the Elven Mountain Ruins and the Deep Roads (especially the epic flooding of that immense underground cavern) were beautiful, and the new(?) music ethereal and gorgeous.  *happy sighing*

[kupowark]

My two cents:

 

God, Teagan fell out of the Frostbite Ugly Tree and smashed his face on every single branch on the way down. Every. Single. One. 

 

I'm wondering why they chose to use Arl Teagan as the Fereldan representative in Trespasser at all. He doesn't look OR act like Teagan in any believable way: Teagan was kinder by nature, not so nasty and petty, and not quite so...weasel-like.  Also, his use of the Grey Warden example made so little sense in the wake of the Fifth Blight, and how his own nephew was part of the greatly diminished Grey Warden forces that helped end the Blight and restore order to Fereldan (particularly since said Grey Warden now sits on the throne of Fereldan).  The historic banishment of the Grey Wardens from Fereldan seemed like a pretty obvious mistake once the Fifth Blight popped up...

[solomon.kosin]

As far as i remember Bull says about Qunari that they may be fanatics, who think they operate under the Qun. It could be that Viddasala was sent to Thedas to study magic and went mad about the chaos and lot of uncontrolled magic here and started to prepare a diversion herself with people who were sent with her.
Just as Arishok gets crazy in DA2. They both believe thay are following the Qun, while no oders were given

[CuriousArtemis]

I'm wondering why they chose to use Arl Teagan as the Fereldan representative in Trespasser at all. He doesn't look OR act like Teagan in any believable way: Teagan was kinder by nature, not so nasty and petty, and not quite so...weasel-like.  Also, his use of the Grey Warden example made so little sense in the wake of the Fifth Blight, and how his own nephew was part of the greatly diminished Grey Warden forces that helped end the Blight and restore order to Fereldan (particularly since said Grey Warden now sits on the throne of Fereldan).  The historic banishment of the Grey Wardens from Fereldan seemed like a pretty obvious mistake once the Fifth Blight popped up...

 

I agree; I was really shocked by Teagan's portrayl and I'm not even a big Teagan fan. It was akin to Sera showing up in the next game advocating for rights for nobles and doing so in a sweet, posh little accent.

[kupowark]

As far as i remember Bull says about Qunari that they may be fanatics, who think they operate under the Qun. It could be that Viddasala was sent to Thedas to study magic and went mad about the chaos and lot of uncontrolled magic here and started to prepare a diversion herself with people who were sent with her.
Just as Arishok gets crazy in DA2. They both believe thay are following the Qun, while no oders were given

There's a missive in the last area of Trespasser from the official Qunari leadership to Josephine disavowing the Viddasala, her followers, and their actions against the Inquisition. In the epilogue, the Qunari return their focus north to Tevinter, with the implication that the Viddasala was officially acting independently, but possibly with unofficial support from the Qun.

[Lord Gunsmith 90]

Great DLC, made me hyped for DA4!

[Bombadyl]

My two cents:

 

God, Teagan fell out of the Frostbite Ugly Tree and smashed his face on every single branch on the way down. Every. Single. One. 

 

Well Teagan did spend 6 years in a Denerim tower negotiating with Charles Sheen (The White Wolf) and Princess Margret Lindsey Lohan of the Empire of Casks, so it was bound to take its toll.  

 

I honestly had to do a double take... THAT is Teagan?!

[solomon.kosin]

There's a missive in the last area of Trespasser from the official Qunari leadership to Josephine disavowing the Viddasala, her followers, and their actions against the Inquisition. In the epilogue, the Qunari return their focus north to Tevinter, with the implication that the Viddasala was officially acting independently, but possibly with unofficial support from the Qun.

I think its kinda in their nature-they would have approved Viddasala if she succeded but if she fails-"no,no, we know nothing she was acting on her own"

[m0tz0r]

and so we reach the end of the inquisition or should I say only the beginning (lol so confusing) but though at the end of it all we find out that solas is the representation of the asgardian god loki (just not so freakishly mad) and that he wishes to tear down the veil which in turn destroys all existence as we know it in order too rebuild the land he and his brethren destroyed, I still find myself deeply resolved into setting him apart from all other main villains and instead of killing him actually help him understand that the world he wishes too destroy is still his world and that their is still hope.

 

now too the qunari threat on tevinter I am still wondering if we will get a visit from a old friend (hopefully he has not been changed like teagan and Alistair have) and that is sten, who is the leader of the qunari forces, hopefully we wont have too kill him as I still want a reunion of the old cast from origins too happen and hopefully they (plus the hero of ferelden) plus hawk (if he is alive which I think he is) and his allies, as well as the inquisitor and his forces along with the help from ferelden,qun,orlais,orzamar,wardens and god knows what else help against the other elven gods and their forces.

 

 

in all I am happy with what happened in trespasser and just a little teary eyed from that last little gathering of the squad.

[Morroian]

and so we reach the end of the inquisition or should I say only the beginning (lol so confusing) but though at the end of it all we find out that solas is the representation of the asgardian god loki (just not so freakishly mad) 

 

Fen'harel has always been a Loki  equivalent in the lore even in DAO.