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Blade of Tidarion: Lightsaber Staff for Knight Enchanters


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#1
Bigdawg13

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Found this schematic from running the war table mission "Stop War between Nevarra and Tevinter".  I do not know if this came with 1.10 or Trespasser.  But it is really cool.  I have an image of the schematic and some animations of the attack.

 

Attack Animation

 

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Dabrikishaw

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That is cool. I like the buffs it gives and I really like that it has a great sword animation. 



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AW, I mean KE, should have had some sort of swords to begin with.  Not necessarily 2H, but still.

 

That does make me recall when I tried to run AW with Yusaris in DAO.  Not all that effective, but it was entertaining. :)



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I've just been messing around with it.  Stats-wise it's not as good as the Seer Staff with Dragon Blade and Hilted Staff Grip, but it makes up for it with better base damage (77 vs 71 for staffs with T4 materials).  Unfortunately, even though the average damage is slightly better, crit chance is way lower, which hurts Flashpoint & just being able to spike things down.  It's pretty fun, though.



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Thedas is Coruscant confirmed. And mages are now Jedi/Sith.


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I've just been messing around with it. Stats-wise it's not as good as the Seer Staff with Dragon Blade and Hilted Staff Grip, but it makes up for it with better base damage (77 vs 71 for staffs with T4 materials). Unfortunately, even though the average damage is slightly better, crit chance is way lower, which hurts Flashpoint & just being able to spike things down. It's pretty fun, though.

Consider each swing will hit multiple enemies though. So crit on auto attack will be under estimated.

AoE staff
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Consider each swing will hit multiple enemies though. So crit on auto attack will be under estimated.

AoE staff

 

AoE too? blasted mages get all the cool toys.



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This means that Rift Mage with this sword may make for a better jedi build than KE, although the KE passives are definitely still better.


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i haven't tried this yet, but as soon as i learned of this sword i had a idea, tell me what you guys think.

 

for a knight enchanter.

 

make this sword, with frost damage.

 

use frost step, with cold damage upgrade--winters grasp with new upgrade for 1000% damage to chilled or frozen targets.

 

have Spirit blade with amplified blade--fade cloak with either upgrade--stasis lock with new upgrade for improved Spirit blade damage to targets inside it (kinda optional but i like it.)---another optional would be the new blizzard upgrade, where its not a toggle and just has one cost and a duration.

 

now imagine, you dash in, do damage, start auto attacking, targets are chilled so now frost armor is up, your takeing 50% reduced damage while building barrier---also amplified blade makes your charges go up fast---spirit blade nuke while targets are inside your stasis lock---any target you auto is game for 1000% damage winters grasp

 

i see big potential here, but i don't have the items yet to test it INGAME. what do you all think??


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Yes, it's AOE.  The damage is not good, but it seems to charge Spirit Blade crazy fast.  As in, 10 charges per enemy hit.

 

There is also a new staff schematic, Encore, that may be the best staff in the game with upgrades.  Overall it seems better than this sword, but it's not anywhere near as cool.

 

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Yes, it's AOE.  The damage is not good, but it seems to charge Spirit Blade crazy fast.  As in, 10 charges per enemy hit.

 

There is also a new staff schematic, Encore, that may be the best staff in the game with upgrades.  Overall it seems better than this sword, but it's not anywhere near as cool.

 

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No offense leather slots?   Bleh I would never use it.  I need me some crit.  Then again it could be pretty nice on Necromancers since dots don't crit.



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The Encore Staff can get about 76% Attack with upgrades. Plus it has a built in Heal on Hit ability from one of the song buffs.


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I fully agree this is probably the best Necromancer staves.  But I want crit on Rift Mages as I'm cooldown limited.  I need more critical hits.  I won't comment on Knight Enchanters as they seem in a bit of a flux at the moment.



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No offense leather slots?   Bleh I would never use it.  I need me some crit.  Then again it could be pretty nice on Necromancers since dots don't crit.

 

Well, that's what Dragon Staff Blade and Hilted Staff Grip are for. :)  But yeah, you can't get nearly the same amount of crit as you get from the Seer Staff or Wrath of Lovias.

 

 

The Encore Staff can get about 76% Attack with upgrades. Plus it has a built in Heal on Hit ability from one of the song buffs.

 

Interesting...I messed with it a bit and didn't notice healing, but it procced an ability that looked like "Mark of the Riff" from the Virtuoso.  I.e., added a couple of extra hits of elemental damage to every attack while it was up.  Good time to cast Energy Barrage.



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I found a rogue schematic called Griffon Mail from the war table-op Contact the Hero of Ferelden



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I saw that, but it's a level 6 epic that you would not get until after Here Lies the Abyss.  O_O 

 

What where they thinking?

 

On a positive note, it is really awesome looking and seems to have a unique appearance (at least on Sera).



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I'm kind of curious Blade of Tidarion interacts with the Storm Passive 'Gathering Storm'.  If the cooldown reduction is every swing, or every hit?  If it's every hit, and you swing the blade through 5+ enemies, that makes you able to reduce your cooldowns wickedly fast.



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*stares*

Now I need to get it before I take my Knight Enchanter thru Trespasser.


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Wow!! This looks so cool!!

 

perfect for my Knight Enchanter!!

 

just curious.....but are there other staves similar to this with the "elemental blades" that swing as swords??

 

is there a one handed longsword version of this?

 

I hope this isn't a glitch or bug.....lol, cuz I want that weapon.

 

This is something I can get and use in the main game, and not just in Trespasser, right?



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I'm sad that I learned about this after beating Trespasser. And that there was no way for me to get it in that game. Kind of frustrating. :\



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KnightXE

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yeah.  it's too bad this new weapon type wasn't available from the beginning.

 

fortunately, I'm restarting my Knight Enchanter, so hopefully I can obtain this weapon.

 

would be nice if there are other sword staves to find.  would love a 1h longsword version.



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Dabrikishaw

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yeah.  it's too bad this new weapon type wasn't available from the beginning.

 

fortunately, I'm restarting my Knight Enchanter, so hopefully I can obtain this weapon.

 

would be nice if there are other sword staves to find.  would love a 1h longsword version.

Funny you should mention that, there is a longsword version of what the Blade of Tidarion does but it's only for warriors.



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Oh, so there's a longsword that has an elemental blade but it's only for warriors??

 

:(

 

what's the name of that sword?

 

and I really hope this Tidarion blade isn't some kind of bug, where it's really a greatsword meant for warriors, but because of the bug, mages can equip it and thus it can be patched out later on.



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Oh, so there's a longsword that has an elemental blade but it's only for warriors??

 

:(

 

what's the name of that sword?

 

and I really hope this Tidarion blade isn't some kind of bug, where it's really a greatsword meant for warriors, but because of the bug, mages can equip it and thus it can be patched out later on.

 

It's called "Brand." http://forum.bioware...ics/?p=19669840



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^^ Thanks!

 

too bad it's Warrior only.  :(

 

Can you only get that in Trespasser or in the main game as well?

 

Can anyone confirm if the Tidarion blade is indeed classified as a staff and thus Mage only?

 

I wonder if Warriors can wield it as a 2h greatsword.