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#126
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I don't have the DLC yet, I'm one of the unfortunate XBOX 360 users. But from what it sounds like, my Lavellan would angrily disband. If she could continue the inquisition as an independent organization, instead of being controlled or regulated by either the council or the Chantry she would. But sadly that's not an opption. As I said in another post:

 

I'm thinking my next elf Quizz will disband. She viewed the inquisition as (1) necessary to stop Mr. God-wannabe, and (2) help elves obtain a better life. She was hoping to use her position to elevate the elves enough for them to be treated better, of course this wasn't going to happen over night or anytime soon. But she hoped that with enough time she could use her power as the inquisitor to help them in any small way, which is why she put Briala on the throne and put a hardened Divine Leliana on the Sunburst Throne. But if the inquisition is losing influence and  the fate of the inquisition is either to be disbanded, or be controlled by shemlen and their Chantry, she would rather destroy what she created then to give it to them. She hates the Chantry and doesn't want to help it in any way, which is also one of the reasons she put a crazy Leliana as their leader and told Cassandra to give up on the Seekers.

 

The bad side about this is whole Briala and Gaspard thing. Without the eluvians and the Inquisition's backing it doesn't look well for her. I can only hope that she went with the other elves to join Solas. Abandoning a sinking ship before it explodes. Also, Frelden is possibly going to get invaded, without the Inquisition to intervene, Gaspard has no reason not go back to war mongering ways

 

Plus, she really never liked that the Inquisition was founded on the belief that she was chosen by their Maker. For one, she does not want to be associated with the Chantry or their faith in anyway. 2) Even if it was a faith she believed in she feels uncomfortable using religion as means to gain power. 2) Shemlen thought that her being the Herald meant that she had given up/or should give up on her dalish culture and faith, which p*** off to no end. Beyond that, my elf quizz is sick of dealing with shemlens.

 

What my elf quizz really wants is to find an alternative to Solas's plan. One that does not involve the mass genocide of modern day elves.



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Agressive disband B)  and try to save Solas from himself. 


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This was a very good spanner in the works.  I chose the Angry Disband, the speech was fantastic!

My human male Quizzy, was just getting sick of all the infighting, all the backstabbing.  Also, with the betrayal of Iron Bull, which left both my Quizzy and myself utterly gutted, he decided that he didn't want corruption to deal him a blow like that again.  Along with his lover, Dorian, and his friends, he knew he would go safely to try and persuade Solas, (I kinda figured earlier on before the dlc, but still was like no way..) that he didn't need to destroy us to bring his people back into the world.  And my Quizzy, his friends and in my mind, the help of Vivienne's new college of magic, would be scouring both Southern Thedas as well as Orlais and all the other friendly parts of Thedas for more books on magic, the eluvians etc.  I just would hope that Morrigan would come back and help and hear what her opinion may be.  Also, how much of Flemmeth lives on in Morrigan? 

Questions questions and we need more game to get answers :)

Next playthrough is definitely going to be a Female Dwarven rogue.  That way I don't have to always carry around a rogue in the party and not have my two tanks or two mages. :)

Great to hear what everyone else thought.

After this playthrough, knowing what the Iron Bull will do, I don't think I can trust to have him in my party again.  I know I will because he is a damned good tank, but, it just really damned hurts knowing that he is going to stab me in the back.  And since I won't be trying to get into Dorian's trousers, I will take Solas with me more, and get more of his insights.  It just sucks about Iron Bull.


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#129
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Disbanding is like admitting defeat to Solas. Also, it's exactly what Teagan wants, and screw him.

 

I think the "choices" were garbage, and I haven't decided on the tone yet, but I think I lean toward the thumbs up option. They all suck though.

 

My prediction is that whether you went back to the Chantry or disbanded, in DA4 your forces will be equalized. Either you will have expanded, or you will have shrunk further. And the Chantry will have always been an ally.


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#130
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Depended on the Inquisitor and the Divine...as always with me...

Inquisitor Lavallen with Sera disbanded angry. Divine Viv (though technically I played through all the choices to see what happened that was my save)

Inquisitor Lavallen with Cullen kept Inquisition peaceful. Divine Cassandra

Inquisitor Lavallen with no1 disbanded peaceful. Divine Cassandra

Inquisitor Trev (F) with Josie kept Inquisition (Neutral) . Divine Viv (way didn't get along with Viv if it mattered).

Still playing...about to have Divine Leliana (inspired) probably keep Inquisition as her personal leashed dogs of war...


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#131
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I went with aggressive disband for my canon ending and it was just perfect.  It wasn't even a matter of "let's reload a few times and see which option is most fitting," no, it was my first choice and my only choice. 

 

Teagan may have been an ass, but my IQ was already of the belief that the Inquisition's job was done and it was time to let everyone go home.  Events at the Winter Palace only highlighted how bloated, unwieldy, and unaccountable the organization had become.  She's still determined to deal with the threat Solas poses, but felt it was time to trim the fat, free herself from the political crap, and get down to business with the core group of her most trusted friends and advisors. 

 

She would have liked to provide the Divine with support (it's inspired Leliana, who looks like she'll need all the help she can get), but that would only retie her hands (hand?) and distract from her real mission.



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Angry disband of the Inquisition, because my Lavellan was enraged at the council, and ultimately she agreed with Solas that the organization was corrupt and no longer served the purpose it was formed for. She's going to save his ass or die trying, though.


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Man, where's my option to ally with the Avvar tribes and carve out a nation in the Frostback Mountains?  Talk with King Bhelen - form an alliance and encourage him to branch outward from Orzammar and take surface landholdings and assist me in a united dwarven/human kingdom.  I'll bulk up the Avvar - and when Orlais and Ferelden start mouthing off - I'll hold Pillage Parties. 

 

And we won't even have an elven slaves!  Cause... we won't have elves... because the idiot weaklings can't stop serving a master... whether it's Qunari or Solas.  

 

Give back my landholdings.... indeed.  If they want to BUY them back - I'll gladly await the wagons full of gold.  If I can't hold them - I'll fill them with all new mercenary bands to replace the ones I cleaned out.  Teagan can lick the mabari **** from the bottom of my boots. 

 

Unless my Hero of Ferelden, the KING, comes and personally asks me and offers up a bro-fist - then I'll reconsider. 

 

They can take my other hand and I'll still kick Orlais and Ferelden's collective asses. 

 

As for Solas... I'm coming for you. 


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#134
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Disband diplomatic.  



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Disbanded with I guess it's the heroic option and vowed to stop/save Solas. I liked being able to wave that giant book and remind everyone why the Inquisition was invoked, then take the high ground while everyone was trying to prove the Quizzy's motives were secret world domination. Nope, job done and thank you to everyone that actually risked their asses instead of sitting on them. Seeing Cass divinely smile as Quizzy did this was a bonus, another bonus was seeing Cass in the epilogue literally roll up her sleeves and help rebuild the Seekers.

Side Note: Best epilogue slides ever!!!

Thom becomes Santa Claus, Iron Bull and the Chargers never stop being heroes, Cole proves popular spirit theories wrong and goes back to the fade, Sera and Quizzy are like Yin/Yang harmony. Cullen retires and opens a rehab home, Leliana and Harding keep being awesome, Josephine learns to roll with it. Even Viv checks her desire and instead acquiesces to Cass's leadership. Dorian standing for goodness and being a constant texting buddy with Quizzy. BEST OF ALL HAWKE AND VARRIC "happily ever after" in Kirkwall.

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Chose to serve the divine.

 

Having spent the past few games bringing about peace between mages and the chantry, I'm damned if I'm going to squander the chance to help Leliana in seeing it all through.

 

I figure that having both a robust intelligence network and a smaller organisation will help mitigate the corruption somewhat; not to mention the Red Jenny involvement which will probably prove invaluable in ousting any nasties.

 

In my opinion, the best way to demonstrate to Solas that the world is worth saving is to preserve a powerful organisation that is wholly focused on maintaining peace. Opposing him directly seems suicidal, and we did part ways with him saying he looked forward to the chance to be proven wrong again. I'm taking him on his word.


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#137
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I've only managed to get two PCs through Trespasser, and they both disbanded, but for different reasons.

 

Laura hated being Inquisitor the whole time and just wanted a normal life and a family. Come Trespasser she finally saw her chance. However, she then ran into Solas and learned that maybe disbanding wasn't the best choice. In the end, her only options were serve Leliana (she was a non-believer, so not ideal) or disband (essentially keeping the important people and letting all the double agents go). She was absolutely torn, so she did the sad disband. (Also vowed to get Solas to change his mind.)

 

Marcus was more annoyed than angry with being Inquisitor. He didn't really have plans for the future, but Dorian dashed his hopes for anything cute and adorable for a while, so he was more ok with keeping the Inquisition. But then he met Solas, learned about all the spies, and got super pissed at Ferelden and Orlais and their damnable politicking. He chose the angry disband. And now I don't know which of the two I prefer.



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My Male Mage Lavellen (who romanced a non divine Cassandra), chose the aggressive 'I'm keeping the Inquisiton" choice. He has a sense of code to continue with the Inquiston. Plus, he was happy with the Inquiston, it gives him a purpose in life.

My Female Mage Lavellen (who romanced Solas), chose to disband the Inquiston sadly. Too much has happened in her life, she needs a break from everything, so that she may grieve her lost and go get Solas.

My Rogue Cadash (who romaced a Tal Volash Iron Bull), choose to keep the Inqusiton with the aggressive choice. She felt that the world wouldn't be very safe without the Inquiston, and to her, it's a good asset to have.

My Male Rogue Lavellen (who romaced Dorian), choose to keep the Inquiston with the sad choice. He was missing Dorian, so he decided to throw himself into the Inquiston, in order to keep his mind off of Dorian being in Tevinter.

My Female Warrior Cadash (who romaced Sera), decided to disband the Inquiston. She wanted a wild life without the stress of the Inquiston and Solas, even though it wouldn't last, she wanted to make the best of her time with Sera left.

My Male Warrior Trevelyan (who romaced Josie), choose to keep the Inquiston with the angry choose. He wanted a nice life with Josie, but he wanted Thedass threats gone before he fully in joyed them.

My Female Mage Trevelyan (who romaced Cullen), decided to disband the Inquistion. She felt as she was no longer needed, and as such she disbanded for a quiet life with Cullen, even though for a little bit.
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#139
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If you romanced him, you can tell him you love him and he sounds so utterly heartbroken in his reply. The feels!  :crying:

 

First time through I went with serving the Divine ("we need more oversight"), but now I'm not sure if a smaller, unofficial group with more trusted allies wouldn't be better. I don't know yet, but it's not as though I don't have plenty of time to decide. ;)

 

 

Wait we give that murderous death cult the inquisition?  Maybe if the Inquisition WHERE The over sight, and after executing the worst of the chantry (so to be just about 95% of it's bureaucracy and priesthood, and that is letting a lot of hate and sadism slide) what was left would be at best a neutral force in the world,. not the malevolent cancer it is now, then maybe, just maybe maker worship could be allowed to survive, but I think that it would be to much of a risk of it's vile evil spreading again.

 

But since my chances of playing DA:I again are low to say the least, I suppose it doesn't matter.



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Question. Are any of the disband options really accounted for? There is no save post epilogue. Does the Keep reflect the options? I have not checked the Keep yet.



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Yes, the options appear in the Keep.


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I'm conflicted over what will make the best story for my Inquisitor. She romanced Solas and I played her as a person who, after all she learned about the elves in the main game, threw herself into the organization and dedicated herself to the task of providing order because she didn't feel she could return to the Dalish after all that. The Inquisition meant a lot to her, but at the same time it was a bit of a crutch, something she fixated on because it was all she had.

If I choose to keep the Inquisition, it would be a continuation, but if I disband it would be because she's finally found something more important to her than the Inquisition, redeeming Solas. I'm leaning towards the latter as I write this but I also don't like the idea of dropping her position as leader of an organization. *sigh*. I don't know...

 

My first Elf Mage to finish Tresspasser is male so no Solas romance option but the political reasoning you had towards the Inquisition is almost identical to how I imagined my elven mage feeling. Just found this really cool.

 

I ultimately had him disband but it was a very tough decision. He just felt like the Inquisition had brushed the dust off a lot of misconceptions and led the way forward towards many good things in Thedas but was also fearful of allowing pride and mistrust in others to influence his decisions regarding the Inquisition.


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I normally don't get too involved in the forums but after just completing the Trespasser DLC I thought I'd give my 2 cents.

On a side note, lol at how many angry disbanders there are hahaha.

 

For me I choice to integrate the Inquisition to a peace keeping personal guard for Divine Victoria who is Leliana.

I am quite happy with the ending I got and I'll explain why, and some of the reasons are going to be so stupid, if anyone is interested in reading my post.

 

I was happy to have Leliana as the new divine because I liked how she really made the chantry to be less about politics and discrimination and more about peace and acceptance.

Looking at today's society, it frustrates me when religion often mixes itself into politics often becoming very messy and so just based on what I thought would be a nice ideal, since I get to have a say as Inquisitor hehe, is that the chantry shouldn't be political.

It could be the one place where people who don't give a crap about lame politics can escape and still contribute positively to the community without ulterior motives.

 

So in saying that, I chose to keep the peace and make the Inquisition her honour guard because I know there will be too many political and religious fanatics trying to assassinate her.  Leliana is an original character, from origins through to her cameo in DA:2 and then now in DA:I, I felt like she had come such a long way and went through such a transformative journey that I kind of wanted to stick around and see her through til the very, very end as well as ensure she stayed alive to spread the love and peace (lol that sounded so hippie).

 

I wouldn't mind Cassandra being divine but I felt that the Seekers would definitely need as much help as it could get to be properly reformed and so I'd have preferred Cassandra to focus more on that rather than split her focus over too many things.

Plus with the potential Elvhen rebellion possibly happening, a potential war of mages thanks to Vivienne, crap getting crappier in Tevinter with their war against the Qun, and then trouble brewing with the Wardens in Weisshaupt, I figured if she managed to actually get the order properly re-established, they could be a potential ally if a crisis were to emerge from any mixture of those potential threats.

 

I kept Iron Bull with the Chargers simply because out of some crazy fantasy that he would some how interact and possibly persuade Sten (Qun from DA:O) to not war against Thedas, or at least be an example that you don't have to war if you don't want to and hopefully be persuasive through example.  I remember at the end of DA:O Sten mentioned to the hero of Fereldan that he hopes they won't meet on the battlefield alluding to some inevitable war.

I know that's such a dumb reason but I also liked the chargers anyway since I dislike politics and scheming and the Qun aren't loyal to anything really.

 

My Inquisitor was a female elf mage who romanced Solas and I did that in the hopes that it would really have a significant role in DA:4 (praying there is a DA:4) and that it would really enable me to change Solas a.k.a Fen'Harel's mind.

I told Solas that I would hope to change his mind.

I figured going against him with aggression obviously will not work because he'll simply turn you to stone before you can think of an argument, and even quicker if you decide to attack him.

He may have been weaker than Cory at the beginning but that was only because he had just awoken.  In the span of 2 years, his strength rose so quickly that an entire sector of the Qun army were literally no match against his might, especially since it seemed like he usurped the power of Mythal (or something to that effect) making him even stronger, but he DOES have a heart and that's where I feel you're going to be most effective.

 

My Inquisitor also drank from the well because I really didn't want Morrigan to be dragged any further into this and you can see she really is quite devoted to Connor and so I wanted there to be an opportunity for her to have her happy little family.

Plus I'm hoping that in DA:4 (again praying that there will definitely be one) I wanted there to be a way to keep everything still linked together.

Anyway, I also feel like since my Inquisition is now bound to Solas and is also romanced with him, this will all add up to successfully changing his mind!!

 

If DA:4 is the final DA instalment that will sum up the DA world, I'm hoping the Hero of Ferelden, Alistair and at least some of the original gang, Hawke, and then the Inquisition will all have one giant get together lol.

They can make it an exclusive party where you had to have literally saved the world to gain access to this particular meet up haha.

 

Anyway overall I really enjoyed DA:I and can't wait to see the advances in classes, races and skills in DA:4!!

 

On a side note, if there is a war between mages because of annoying Vivienne, I wonder if Valta will make an appearance.

I imagine that with the war against mages and templars, and now a war between factions of mages, surely the abuse of Lyrium will upset the child of stone.

Or perhaps The Descent DLC was an introduction to a potential dwarven mage class selection???

 

Well that's just my thoughts rambling on now so I'll stop the post here.


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#144
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Disbanded with "Our job is done".

Would disband right after Corypheus was defeated, if the option was given. Because having an army of fanatics is not a wise idea in general, more like a lesser evil, necessary means to stop the big one.

Spoiler

 

Small party with understanding of what and why they're doing is more suitable for task of convincing a member of it that he is wrong.



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I think i chose aggressive disband.

 

Though i was thoroughly annoyed at the utter railroaded narrow options. Being given 3 flavours of garbage left me spitting. They were the final nail in the inquisitor as a character for me.



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At first,I disbanded, but then I realised that all institutions are doomed to have some level of corruption, be it political, military, religious or even academic.

 

If the Inquisition wanted to have the means to keep track of Solas, it would need resources. There's no way around it. So in my second playthrough, I maintained the Inquisition. Better to make sure the Inquisition will be able to anticipate the threat he poses than to be powerless when the time comes to take a decisive action that could save Thedas from his folly.



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I wanted to keep the Inquisition's power intact. I couldn't, so I disbanded it rather than for it to become the Chantry's lapdog.

 

For all their talk of how I could use the Inquisition to change the world I was a bit disappointed not to have the option.

 

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At the beginning of Trespasser my Inquisitor was determined to keep the Inquisition intact. Primarily, she wanted to remain in power to pursue elven interests. She wanted the resources of the Inquisition to research and investigate Elven history and lore, and to track down Solas. After two years it wasn't going well, but she's stubborn. 

 

By the end of Trespasser, she sadly disbanded. Her organization was infested with spies, Iron Bull had betrayed them, and Solas' words about corruption rang true. With that and all the difficulty with Ferelden and Orlais she knew then that the Inquisition must change, and believed the best move was to go underground as a covert operation. She is seeking to redeem Solas.

 

The sad disband option was pitch perfect for my Inquisitor. She was tired, overwhelmed, disappointed but determined. It was a great moment because throughout the game she'd given political answers that didn't always align with her feelings. The sad disband option was, for her, political and honest at the same time. What a great DLC.



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I keep the Inquisition going. A play through I thought about disbanding but that ungrateful ******* Teagan, reminded me why I don't disband. I keep it going just to spite him.



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I disbanded on my first playthrough. As a Dalish elf, my character was never overly comfortable with the Inquisition and it's history to begin with. She saw it as a necessary evil to stabilize Thedas.  By the time the Exalted Council had rolled around, she had done all the good she could. The Breach was sealed, Cory was dead, the Mage-Templar War was over, and Leliana had the Chantry well in hand. As she saw it, the Inquisition no longer had any reason to exist as it's goals had been accomplished. Then Trespasser happened, and it only cemented her decision. Solas and the Qunari had compromised the entire organization, and if she hoped to successfully oppose either party, she couldn't do so with spies hiding behind every corner.

 

That being said, I wish Trespasser had offered more alternatives. Personally, I would've loved the option to allow the Qunari to execute Dragon's Breath, allowing the Inquisition to fill the subsequent power vacuum. Or, at the very least, I would've liked the option to tell the politicians to shove off, and keep it independent.