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[teh DRUMPf!!]

 I dressed 'Bull in formal wear in anticipation of this scene (did not know it would play out like so, but still).

 

It was pretty glorious. He looked like a true villain in that outfit.

 

And he melted like ice cream -- LOL!

[RGC_Ines]

So Bull turns on you no matter what?

It could be bug, while I have some problems with this DLC regardnig World State

[Shevy]

Interesting...I saved Chargers and did Bull's personal quest, and I still had to kill him. To be honest I was a little dissapointment, while Bull should be harder to kill. He should be a mini boss...Now Im interesting about Chargers fate...

Really depends on Bulls equipment. I played with Inquisitor (tank), Varric, Vivienne (specced as KE) and Bull (Twohander). My Inquisitor and Vivienne were unkillable through the whole DLC on nightmare with most of the challenges on. Because my equipment was the absolute maximum. But in this situation Bull with his maxed out gear killed my whole party in less than 5 seconds. He killed a full barrier Vivienne with guardian spirit up in less than two seconds (his +5 hidden blades masterwork procced on her).

I had to undress him to win this fight.

[Costin_Razvan]

What gets to me isn't the fact the Bull betrays me, but that our friendship and the friendship he had with others in Inquisition all meant NOTHING to him.

[Milan92]

Inquisitor: "Only the Qun deals in absolutes! I shall do what I must."

 

Iron Bull: "You will try!"

 

*Lightsaber battle ensues*

 

I gotta admit, I kinda love it. ZE DRAMA!

[electrifried]

The part that hurts the most in his betrayal is his line. "Nothing personal, bas." That crap is just very powerful as it shows that a Bull that stayed with the Qun never cared or respected the Inquisitor, it was all an act.

I knew there was a reason I never liked the Iron Bull. >_>

[Jaron Oberyn]

Inquisitor: "Only the Qun deals in absolutes! I shall do what I must."

 

Iron Bull: "You will try!"

 

*Lightsaber battle ensues*

 

I gotta admit, I kinda love it. ZE DRAMA!

I enjoyed killing him. I love FPJ, but Iron Bull was James Vega with horns. He just didn't fit imo.

[Isaidlunch]

Does it happen regardless of romance?

[Korva]

I never liked him either. The Chargers, yes, and that's why he would live if I were to play this DLC. But not him. That's not why I give thumbs up his to betrayal and death, though ... rather, this is an example of what I mean what I say that I like a "good death". It doesn't have to be redemptive or sacrificial or "noble" in some other way. Sure, that helps because I tend to be a bit of a sucker for that sort of thing at times , but the main requirement is that it fits the character, which this definitely does to a T.

 

I think the biggest gut-punch by far would be him betraying you even if the Chargers survive, meaning if you never did his quest, because that would also mean betraying the people who were his friends and family much moreso and for much longer than the Inquisition was. Or does he simply not return for the DLC in that case, similar to how I hear Cole does not return if you never helped him?

[Amne YA]

well you killed his freinds  what did you excpect ?   the only thing  left for him was the Qun .  i would do the same if you killed my freind just for more power . die you  selfish  bas 

[NoForgiveness]

"Nothing personal" my ass. This guy fought with my Inquisitor for years. How is anything more personal then that?

[Amne YA]

"Nothing personal" my ass. This guy fought with my Inquisitor for years. How is anything more personal then that?

He's a soldier. he told you he was in the first place when you recruited him. you chose that he need to stay with the Qun. he got a direct order from a general officer of the Qun. he is right nothing personal

[ComedicSociopathy]

Does it happen regardless of romance?

 

Yep. Sorry, man. 

[guardian of hades]

So Bull turns on you no matter what?

 

Nope, he didn't turn on me.  He said, "Hell No, ma'am!" or something along those lines.

[NoForgiveness]

He's a soldier. he told you he was in the first place when you recruited him. you chose that he need to stay with the Qun. he got a direct order from a general officer of the Qun. he is right nothing personal

When you kill someone your not just taking their life. Your hurting their friends and family and anyone who ever cared for them. Your also betraying any relationship and trust you might've shared with that person(like 3 solid years of fighting side by side). Honestly the only things that could possibly be more personal(imo) are love and sex.

[Rappeldrache]

So if the Chargers are alive that doesn't happen? I thought that would have happened either way.

 

Bull was with me at this place and he said something like .... I can't remember. I will look. But he stays with me.

 

I made his personal quest, we are very good friends and his chargers are alive.

 

Did she still try to get him to betray you?

 

Yes, but he answer something else like in the video ....

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Here it is, but in german:

 

 

 

 

Translation: Forget it, mylady!  ("This you can forget, Mylady!")

 

 

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[Cha0sEff3ct]

Not that mad by his betrayal anymore, it made it a bitter-sweet ending. I can liken it to Andraste being betrayed by Maferath. You know being her herald and all... lmao

 

Killing Bull(at least romanced) should have had a cinematic. 

 

but this tho... 

 

Spoiler

lol at Bull eating my Inky's arm off.

 

 

 

lol

[TobiTobsen]

Not that mad by his betrayal anymore, it made it a bitter-sweet ending. I can liken it to Andraste being betrayed by Maferath. You know being her herald and all... lmao

 

Killing Bull(at least romanced) should have had a cinematic. 

 

but this tho... 

 

Spoiler

lol at Bull eating my Inky's arm off.

 

 

 

lol

 

"Njohoho! Pass the salt, my dear!"

 

Damn orlesians.

[Nefla]

Sucks to be people who let the chargers die or ignored his quest my Inquisitor and Bull are getting married and he had no hesitation killing all the Qunari who attacked us or tried to get him to betray.

[Rappeldrache]

Sucks to be people who let the chargers die or ignored his quest my Inquisitor and Bull are getting married and he had no hesitation killing all the Qunari who attacked us or tried to get him to betray.

 

 

What does he say in english? When the Qunari ask him to betray the inquisitor ...

In german it's something like: "Forget it, Mylady".

 

We are just friends, the chargers live, but we have NO romance. He stay my friend and don't betray me.

 

 

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[Nefla]

What does he say in english? When the Qunari ask him to betray the inquisitor ...

In german it's something like: "Forget it, Mylady".

 

We are just friends, the chargers live, but we have NO romance. He stay my friend and don't betray me.

 

 

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I forget the exact words but something like "not a chance...ma'am."

[bitcloudrzr]

I am sure that I have the conditions for him not to betray me, but yet he did. I'm guessing bugs?

[MKDAWUSS]

Not that mad by his betrayal anymore, it made it a bitter-sweet ending. I can liken it to Andraste being betrayed by Maferath. You know being her herald and all... lmao

 

Killing Bull(at least romanced) should have had a cinematic. 

 

but this tho... 

 

Spoiler

lol at Bull eating my Inky's arm off.

 

 

 

lol

 

I hope the music for that scene is memorable (assuming it's an opera or operetta).

[Fearsome1]

So this is what happens if you romanced Bull and sacrificed the chargers...

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

That bastard   "Everything we had, everything I thought we... katoh. katoh"    

 

I one hit killed him for some reason but he deserved it!

 

I love that my Vivtoria will plan an Exalted March on Par Vollen! lol

 

Interesting how Cole says he felt no pain with Iron Bull. I guess he was completely brainwashed. oh well 

 

 

I appreciated seeing the videos that you made. It helps me plan out some of what I do on a few playthroughs.