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whathot

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Does anyone know what the actual damage points translated from armor weakening percentage of these ammo?  

 

For example Warp III ammo weaken armor by 50%,  so how is this get computed in term of actual damage done to armor?

 

 



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Dalakaar

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Armor works pretty simply in ME3.  Armor simply takes a fixed number of points off of each bullet/pellet.


  • 15 for Bronze

  • 30 for Silver

  • 50 for Gold & Platinum

A bullet will do a minimum of 5 damage.

 

 
Armour Weaken is a percentile based off those numbers.
 
...IIRC.


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Target_ARMOR_DR - constant from config files ... Armored enemies in ME3 get fixed amount damage reduction from each weapon shot ...
Values for difficulty levels (15/30/50) ( / /insanity) SP (bronze/silver/gold&platinum) MP

DRmodifiers
=(1-sum_armor_weakening_effects)*(1-sum_armor_piercing_effects) ...
-Armor weakening effects are party friendly (can get them from debuff powers like cryo blast, warp , snap freeze or ammo powers//consumbles warp, cryo) ...
-Armor piercing effects are for the individual player (can get them from AP ammo and AP piercing mods on weapon) ..
-If 1-sum_armor_weakening_effects or 1-sum_armor_piercing_effects gets <= 0 Target_ARMOR_DR is effectively nulified ..

rest of the picture - weapon damage formula
http://forum.bioware...a/#entry8986837
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That is funny this subject got brought up..I remember being in a platinum lobby with a player that had stupid high N7 & challenge points..He was the host...GOD.., do I really want to name & shame them..Most of us know him here........and he brought up the subject of cryo-armor weakening..SPECIFICALLY his question was "Does cryo ammo weaken a guardian's shields?"  ..I ask what he meant...He said..does it weaken the shield to a certain point that you can .get thru it"...WAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!  I told him to preset the lobby to Cerberus..equip cryo rounds and go for it.....Serious?...


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Does anyone know what the actual damage points translated from armor weakening percentage of these ammo?  

 

For example Warp III ammo weaken armor by 50%,  so how is this get computed in term of actual damage done to armor?

 

 

 

 

 

 
Armour Weaken is a percentile based off those numbers.
 
...IIRC.

 

to be easier to read than peddro then yes, u loose 25 damage on gold instead of 50 for each pellet thanks to your warp ammo III. (thats without taking inot account the other gain u would have from amor piercing weapon mod)

 

I wonder how long your teammates get the bonus if they do ? with warp they do, and that must be for the power duration



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That is funny this subject got brought up..I remember being in a platinum lobby with a player that had stupid high N7 & challenge points..He was the host...GOD.., do I really want to name & shame them..Most of us know him here........and he brought up the subject of cryo-armor weakening..SPECIFICALLY his question was "Does cryo ammo weaken a guardian's shields?"  ..I ask what he meant...He said..does it weaken the shield to a certain point that you can .get thru it"...WAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!  I told him to preset the lobby to Cerberus..equip cryo rounds and go for it.....Serious?...

The shield of unobtainium gives zero ****  about armor weakening. Hell the thing doesn't even give a **** about inferno grenades as well.


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nico_wolf

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I wonder how long your teammates get the bonus if they do ? with warp they do, and that must be for the power duration

 

Effect Duration:

Cryo I --> 3 sec

Cryo II--> 4 sec

Cryo III--> 5 sec

Cryo IV--> 5,5 sec

 

... the bonus should belong to everyone. hey it is a coop game :wub:

 

Does the speed reduction 35% apply to everyone with the first hit? didn't realize that enemy's slow down that fast (slow,... whatever)


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What's the max amount of slow you can put on an enemy?

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nico_wolf

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What's the max amount of slow you can put on an enemy?

Stasis, ... followed by Headshot! :ph34r:

 

... I don't know. Only Cryo Ammo don't stack. But in combination with a power like "Recon Mine (6) Invasive Scan" an Atlas seams to stop.

But I don't have any numbers.