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[spinachdiaper]

If ME:A just tries to sweep the mess that was ME3 ending structure under the rug without a short and sweat gloss over of the who, where and why of ME3's endgame then ignored inconsistencies will eat away at any and all plot forwarding development. First of all Synthesis would preclude all of ME:A as would likely the Refusal option. Then we look at Control and realistically the Reapers would prevent any and all attempts at a organic being exodus. Finally all that's left is Destroy which was the most selected player ending (even if I didn't go that way in my game) and it's the only one that can make any sense furthering the Mass Effect Universe.

[MerchantGOL]

If ME:A just tries to sweep the mess that was ME3 ending structure under the rug without a short and sweat gloss over of the who, where and why of ME3's endgame then ignored inconsistencies will eat away at any and all plot forwarding development. First of all Synthesis would preclude all of ME:A as would likely the Refusal option. Then we look at Control and realistically the Reapers would prevent any and all attempts at a organic being exodus. Finally all that's left is Destroy which was the most selected player ending (even if I didn't go that way in my game) and it's the only one that can make any sense furthering the Mass Effect Universe.

Not really Yeah destroy is the most mundane option but your scope is limited if you think that any thing has to go one way or the other.

 

IF there in a new galxy then the reapers wont show up in control, and if its synthesis it wouldn't be that hard to give all the models the glowing circuits or just say they a partly synthitic  even if we cant see,

[Broganisity]

They can canonize the parts of the game that allow for the return of fan favorite races (Genophage cure, regardless of leader, and Truce between geth and quarians) without having to deal with the endings. Very few people would hate to see the return of such races and this allows them to appear. Then, when you have Krogan already confirmed for Andromeda, there is less reason to worry in that regard.

If things happen before the ending that lead to people reaching Andromeda, then the endings are irrelevant to the story of Mass Effect: Andromeda.

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To quote Garrus: "It's not a plan, but its a perfect plan."

[MerchantGOL]

Or maybe we just stop asking questiosn and just go with it

[Former_Fiend]

Explaining the possibility and probability that the exodus to Andromeda is going to happen prior to the end of ME3 with the events of MEA taking place significantly later due to the time it takes to travel between galaxies, thus avoiding the mess that is the endings all together, is getting a little tedious. 

 

Besides, Refusal would make for the best canon ending going into Andromeda.

[spinachdiaper]

There is no acceptable way that the start of ME:A happening before the ending of ME3. The rectonning would be beyond preposterous since jumping galaxy to galaxy is something so far out of the reach of the Citadel & Council races grasp it's laughable to think it. Here is how ME3 endings cannot coexist with MEA, Synthesis would create a universe where there's no need for anything since everyone's a perfect bio-organic robot, Refusal is a cop out ending in which all sentient life gets exterminated without exception, Control leaves doubt about the reaper's new intentions but it's unlikely that they would allow expansion or departure from the milky way. Basically any ending with the Reapers still running around in any capacity undermines the entire possibility of ME:A.

[MerchantGOL]

There is no acceptable way that the start of ME:A happening before the ending of ME3. The rectonning would be beyond preposterous since jumping galaxy to galaxy is something so far out of the reach of the Citadel & Council races grasp it's laughable to think it. Here is how ME3 endings cannot coexist with MEA, Synthesis would create a universe where there's no need for anything since everyone's a perfect bio-organic robot, Refusal is a cop out ending in which all sentient life gets exterminated without exception, Control leaves doubt about the reaper's new intentions but it's unlikely that they would allow expansion or departure from the milky way. Basically any ending with the Reapers still running around in any capacity undermines the entire possibility of ME:A.

You said all that already in you OP.

 

One Saying you want for  nothing in Synthesis in hyperbole, and false, More tech, better lives means more people more expansion which means you need more space, perfect reason to branch out into and andromeda.

 

two you miss understand the Control ending the Reapers don't necessarily have a say in who goes where, maybe if your shep was renegade, but Paragon Guardian makes it clear all hes gonna do is protect the peace. So its entirely possible for them to leave for andromeda.

[Panda]

I still think it's best that our ship got out of Milky Way before Shepards decision to destroy technology, become space tyrant or change everyone (us included) into techno-organic mess.. but I'll wait and see what devs came up with.

[Chardonney]

I still think it's best that our ship got out of Milky Way before Shepards decision to destroy technology, become space tyrant or change everyone (us included) into techno-organic mess.. but I'll wait and see what devs came up with.

 

Agreed. I'm in no hurry to get specifics of MEA but I so wish that BW would at least tell us when the journey starts, before or after. It would clear up things up so much. I'm one of those who would like to leave before the ending of ME3 and quite frankly, if BW decides to take that route, they will make it happen one way or the other, even if some players claim it to be impossible (which I personally don't think it is).  

[themikefest]

I'm sure the folks who leave for Andromeda will have no idea what ending Shepard chose.

[Chealec]

There is no acceptable way that the start of ME:A happening before the ending of ME3.

 

ME:A happens long after ME3 but there are plenty of threads with valid ideas about how the exodus would have begun long before the Reapers won the war... personally I like the Black Ark theory.

 

Setting off after the Reaper war makes absolutely no sense IMO (especially since I shot the starbrat in my last play-through).

[Rhidor]

I don't think anything will be canonized, not the ending, not any other big important choice (like the genophage). If they make one choice canon and thus redundant in a playtrhough, they could just as well go keep the Milky Way.

 

I think however our crew got into Andromeda happened around ME2's time or very early in ME3, so big galactic changes won't affect us.

[JeffZero]

I don't really care what they do in this regard.

And I hate Destroy, even.

[Amplitudelol]

If ME:A just tries to sweep the mess that was ME3 ending structure under the rug without a short and sweat gloss over of the who, where and why of ME3's endgame then ignored inconsistencies will eat away at any and all plot forwarding development. First of all Synthesis would preclude all of ME:A as would likely the Refusal option. Then we look at Control and realistically the Reapers would prevent any and all attempts at a organic being exodus. Finally all that's left is Destroy which was the most selected player ending (even if I didn't go that way in my game) and it's the only one that can make any sense furthering the Mass Effect Universe.

 

There is no perfect way out. I just hope they make the connection between ME1-3 and the practically totally new IP (with some n7 logo and original aliens here and there) somewhat acceptable/believable/plausible, If they deliver the same vibe with both the story, the characters, etc., i wont give a damn about starchild and his RGB solution or the reapers while playing it.

[Former_Fiend]

There is no acceptable way that the start of ME:A happening before the ending of ME3. The rectonning would be beyond preposterous since jumping galaxy to galaxy is something so far out of the reach of the Citadel & Council races grasp it's laughable to think it. 

 

I feel people tend to overstate the infeasability of that. 

 

Ignoring for a moment that this is a purely fictional universe and the inhabitants of it are capable of whatever Bioware says they're capable of, it really wouldn't take that much lore bending to handwave cryosleep and a thousand+ year journey. 

 

That's a lot less effort than trying to work in all the endings and, even if it violates the lore someway, the backlash on that is nothing compared to the backlash of canonizing one of the endings would be.

[Jester]

Ignoring for a moment that this is a purely fictional universe and the inhabitants of it are capable of whatever Bioware says they're capable of, it really wouldn't take that much lore bending to handwave cryosleep and a thousand+ year journey. 

Especially since cryosleep for over 50 000 years is confirmed as possible.

[mickey111]

it doesn't matter. Really. It's just one more story, like the hundreds I've already seen and I'm past the point of trying to make sense of everything.

[Former_Fiend]

I don't think anythign will be canonized, not the ending, not any other big important choice (like the genophage). If they make one choice canon and trhough that redundant in a playtrhough, they could just as well go keep the Milky Way.

 

I think however our crew got into Andromeda happened around ME2's time or very early in ME3, so big galactic changes won't affect us.

 

On this note, I would like to say that I believe they should implement a DA Keep style system in regards to major choices such as the genophage and the Rannoch decision. Not the endings, though.

[JeffZero]

A sort of "Mass Relay" if you will.

[Belial]

I don't think they'll make any of the endings canon.

 

It would make perfect sense that the various Milky Way races would attempt sending colonists to another galaxy as a last resort even before the Reaper war in order to preserve their species. So the team sent to Andromeda would be unaware and unaffected by the events of ME3.

 

I assume that due to the distance/time barrier any form of communication between the colonists and the Milky Way would be impossible as well. I don't know how much faster than light FTL travel is but iirc it has been stated that exploring the galaxy without the Mass Relays would be almost impossible. Considering how small the diameter of our galaxy is compared to the distance to Andromeda it would take an absurd amount of time (possibly hundreds of thousands years) to get there using FTL (unless they somehow go for the wormhole alternative).

 

As for smaller decisions like the genophage, they can let us import a save or give us a Genesis intro to maintain consistency.

[N7_Salohcin]

There is no acceptable way that the start of ME:A happening before the ending of ME3. The rectonning would be beyond preposterous since jumping galaxy to galaxy is something so far out of the reach of the Citadel & Council races grasp it's laughable to think it. Here is how ME3 endings cannot coexist with MEA, Synthesis would create a universe where there's no need for anything since everyone's a perfect bio-organic robot, Refusal is a cop out ending in which all sentient life gets exterminated without exception, Control leaves doubt about the reaper's new intentions but it's unlikely that they would allow expansion or departure from the milky way. Basically any ending with the Reapers still running around in any capacity undermines the entire possibility of ME:A.

 

 

Agreed. I'm in no hurry to get specifics of MEA but I so wish that BW would at least tell us when the journey starts, before or after. It would clear up things up so much. I'm one of those who would like to leave before the ending of ME3 and quite frankly, if BW decides to take that route, they will make it happen one way or the other, even if some players claim it to be impossible (which I personally don't think it is).  

 

"According to the developer blog, Mass Effect: Andromeda takes place far away from and long after the events of the original trilogy and offers exciting new worlds to discover, great characters, and intense action." - Source

Still doesn't explain whether we left before the critical ending of ME3, but food for thought non the less.

[Beerfish]

Any of the endings applied in ME3 apply only to the milky way galaxy

New game takes place in new galaxy

Problem solved.

 

Sweeping under the rug is just another term for 'I don't like the way they may deal with it.'

 

BioWare set the rules of the games and the parameters and will all sci fi if you don't like something you can just change it.  moving the setting to a new galaxy is a perfectly viable way to get away from the doomed me3 endings.

[Jaquio]

Has no one ever taken a road trip?  Why is suddenly everyone baffled by the concept of travel time?

[United Servo Academy Choir]

If ME:A just tries to sweep the mess that was ME3 ending structure under the rug without a short and sweat gloss over of the who, where and why of ME3's endgame then ignored inconsistencies will eat away at any and all plot forwarding development. First of all Synthesis would preclude all of ME:A as would likely the Refusal option. Then we look at Control and realistically the Reapers would prevent any and all attempts at a organic being exodus. Finally all that's left is Destroy which was the most selected player ending (even if I didn't go that way in my game) and it's the only one that can make any sense furthering the Mass Effect Universe.

 

Nothing will eat away at anything. Nobody needs to do any sweeping.

 

All MEA needs to do is treat the ME3 endings as though they don't exist, and it's all gravy.

[Chardonney]

"According to the developer blog, Mass Effect: Andromeda takes place far away from and long after the events of the original trilogy and offers exciting new worlds to discover, great characters, and intense action." - Source

Still doesn't explain whether we left before the critical ending of ME3, but food for thought non the less.

 

Yeah, I already knew that but like you said, it doesn't really clarify anything. For the love of all things holy, please tell us BioWare. It really wouldn't be that big of a spoiler, anyway.