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#151
Snakebite

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Did you use walking fortress and counter strike against bolters? Under your strict definition, this would be considered an exploit.
 

 

Wait wait wait.

What?

The Walking Fortress tooltip clearly said you were supposed to get cooldowns from taking hits.  This was literally working as intended.  How it that an exploit?  I think Luke even said that this was not the reason for the nerf.


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And so those who did xp lobbies before bw announced its not really acceptable are in a safe zone by your logic. Its gotta start somewhere.

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Then most of us should agree it's a cheat? Unless you used an exploit...

 

I think "bush league" is a better way of describing the tactic we're discussing.



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And so those who did xp lobbies before bw announced its not really acceptable are in a safe zone by your logic. Its gotta start somewhere.

 

Yes, yes they are.



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Snakebite I thought the same thing. That's like saying if you twin fsng from the back you clearly used an exploit lol.

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More like bish league.

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Wait wait wait.

What?

The Walking Fortress tooltip clearly said you were supposed to get cooldowns from taking hits.  This was literally working as intended.  How it that an exploit?  I think Luke even said that this was not the reason for the nerf.

 

Fair enough.  

 

That maybe a stretch too far.

 

Though, I can't imagine that, despite the statement, the walking fortress nerf was completely unrelated to its use with counterstrike and the bolters.

 

And despite the tenuous nature of that analogy, reentry is working as intended.  While there is no tooltip, you are supposed to get new potions and "lives" every time you enter a match, whether it is at the start or in the middle.



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And so those who did xp lobbies before bw announced its not really acceptable are in a safe zone by your logic. Its gotta start somewhere.

 

If you want Bioware to act, you got to start multiple threads on this very same topic.  Once a day for the next two weeks should do it.


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Nawwh I'm not gonna join the ban wagon I just think its a little goofy to cry about xp people but not this. Its a co op game not pvp. The leaderboard is mehh at best so really who cares? Bw obviously didn't even care or the ban wagon wouldn't be so upset.

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Nawwh I'm not gonna join the ban wagon I just think its a little goofy to cry about xp people but not this. Its a co op game not pvp. The leaderboard is mehh at best so really who cares? Bw obviously didn't even care or the ban wagon wouldn't be so upset.

 

So do you auto-attack cancel to increase auto-attack damage?

 

Because that seems more obviously like an exploit than reentry.


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Toyz great job not getting my psn right. Anyway no its about how cheating different from cheating. If I wanted people to know how good I am I'd be posting videos. Sorry hb is meant for promoted players and some people cheated the game to get ahead. Why do you think I'm like a god? Or are you picking fights because you cheated...

I pick on you because of statements like you said  I have seen you play   with your stats you should be better (alot better)

you just dont want people to have what you do

I dont hide my psn ID its the same as here   and I dont need to insulate with 420 I am cool and need weed to make my life better

you made me mad when over and over stated if your not on the leader board why do you care if someone cheats?  this tells me you feel you above anyone who is not on the leader board  and I won't tolerate being talked down to or looked down to   we are all people and want to feel like we matter  I will play with a low promote or a leader board hero and hope we all have a good time

so in the end  cheating does matter because I intend to work hard and promote and get to the leader board    or until ADD kicks in and I see a shiny object



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I might add till an apology I will continue to pick on your posts



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I am not sure whether Bioware cares or is willing to take action as far as exploits are concerned. Leaving and rejoining games in order to Fade-escape sounds like a pretty illegitimate practice in my book, yet there have been those supporting it as an acceptable thing to do in order to get the job done. At the end of the day, due to a lack of overseeing, it is down to each team's ethics to allow it or not.
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Fair enough.  

 

That maybe a stretch too far.

 

Though, I can't imagine that, despite the statement, the walking fortress nerf was completely unrelated to its use with counterstrike and the bolters.

 

And despite the tenuous nature of that analogy, reentry is working as intended.  While there is no tooltip, you are supposed to get new potions and "lives" every time you enter a match, whether it is at the start or in the middle.

 

The same thing could be achieved to a larger extent by standing next to Horrors.  That has been around since the beginning, and they are on more than one zone.  It seems like if it was an issue it would have been resolved long before bolters were a thing.

 

Yes, if you are just joining a game you should have all your lives and potions.  If you run out of lives and potions, leave, then rejoin, you are no longer a new player to that game session, so it is unfair that you get the advantages of a new player.

 

Personally, I think it should track your lives lost and potions used and not refund them to you on rejoin.  It can track XP gained before you left then pick up where you started when you rejoin, so why not lives and potions?  I don't think it is working as intended, but it really isn't all that big of a deal, so whatever.


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Fair enough.  

 

That maybe a stretch too far.

 

Though, I can't imagine that, despite the statement, the walking fortress nerf was completely unrelated to its use with counterstrike and the bolters.

 

And despite the tenuous nature of that analogy, reentry is working as intended.  While there is no tooltip, you are supposed to get new potions and "lives" every time you enter a match, whether it is at the start or in the middle.

 

Yes it is working as intended until you fade, rejoin,fade,rejoin,fade,rejoin cheating as intended more like it.

No one should get banned for this lol.

Just be real and say yes its an cheat :D


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Nawwh I'm not gonna join the ban wagon I just think its a little goofy to cry about xp people but not this. Its a co op game not pvp. The leaderboard is mehh at best so really who cares? Bw obviously didn't even care or the ban wagon wouldn't be so upset.

 

I'm confused.  The only one that seems upset about this is you.  Did I miss something?



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I am not sure whether Bioware cares or is willing to take action as far as exploits are concerned. 

 

Lol, "not sure"... I'm almost as certain as Porky they couldn't care less about exploits. I still don't understand why they fixed it server side three days before the patch. Just showed how low of a priority it was.

 

That post about TOS and bans drove away far too many players, the ones who listened to Bioware. Precedent has been set for DAMP. Free reign.


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Lol, "not sure"... I'm almost as certain as Porky they couldn't care less about exploits. I still don't understand why they fixed it server side three days before the patch. Just showed how low of a priority it was.

 

That post about TOS and bans drove away far too many players, the ones who listened to Bioware. Precedent has been set for DAMP. Free reign.

 

I would agree with this. Bioware an roaring Lion with no teeth. :)


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I'm confused.  The only one that seems upset about this is you.  Did I miss something?


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 Free reign.

 

Hooray!  Let the anarchists revolution begin!  spy_vs_spy_ying_yang_by_nes44nes-d1q0lgs


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Parthian gets a gold star for endorsing Mad Magazine.


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Yes it is working as intended until you fade, rejoin,fade,rejoin,fade,rejoin cheating as intended more like it.

No one should get banned for this lol.

Just be real and say yes its an cheat :D

 

I've never once done it, and probably never will since I only pug. 

 

I just think there is a difference between a cheat and an exploit. 

 

Cheating would be double XP glitch, something the game shouldn't allow.

Exploit is exploiting a loophole in intended game mechanics.  It's intended to give you full potions and "lives" whenever you enter a match.

 

I think you should be banned for cheating.  I think the developer should close the loophole on an exploit if they don't want players to do it.


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#173
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I should be better at what my play style is and always will be kill first watch the team die or keep up later. Migrating a failed game over n over is weak. Take the lose and no there's plenty of people that agree with me actually. It's just the same 3 people who don't think it's cheating over n over. To bad you can't start a poll on this forum....

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Also if you're not upset why to this day are you and a few others still wanting bans like get over it that's old this is old but still occuring.

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Today people, we will be discussing the difference between a cheat and an exploit.

 

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