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[KonguZya]

I honestly didn't realize it was supposed to be Teagan for quite a while. Didn't look, sound, or act like him at all. They should've just made a new character to be the ******* from Ferelden.

[Vinitchz]

The only way my mind could explain his behavior is this; he saw the inquisition as a orlesian force, much like people saw it first as a chantry force, and it was right there in the border of ferelden territory with a giant army, if the inquisition eventually decided to bow to orlesian nobility, it would be easy to invade ferelden again, so that was his primary concern, the grey wardens example didn't make sense to me as well, but I doubt many people realy know what happened at warden's keep with Sophia, also got a bug where in the codex say empress celene govern but the NPCs say that Gaspard is on the throne, I saved Celene, but in a world state where Gaspard is ruling, I can understand his reaction

[Knight of Dane]

I honestly didn't realize it was supposed to be Teagan for quite a while. Didn't look, sound, or act like him at all. They should've just made a new character to be the ******* from Ferelden.

 

Eeeh, I recognized his voice instantly. But you know; could as well have been Gamlen then. Didn't look or act Teagan at all tho. Even facing Loghain in the beginnign of DA:O he has a calm air about him that doesn't come across in this DLC. Come to think of it, this "Teagan" in Tresspasser is suspiciously Gamlen like.... hmmmm....

[SnowHeart1]

- Grey Wardens save Ferelden and Redcliffe (DAO)
- Grey Wardens saved Connor and Isolde
- Inquisition is on good terms with the crown, having exposed traitors in the court (war table operations)
- Inquisitor (in my play through) boots Alexius from Redcliffe Castle (effectively restoring it to the arl) and puts out two dozen rifts in the Hinterlands surrounding Redcliffe, gets a healer to help the refugees, and gets them food and clothing to survive a harsh winter

And that's the thanks I get? Yeah, I didn't buy it either.

[Kulyok]

I refuse to believe it's Teagan. Antivan Crows kidnapped the real Teagan, gotten him drunk and replaced him with Arl Howe's nephew. Oh, and they stole Solas' hat.

[Augustei]

Now? Nah Ive always hated Teagan. Ever since he voiced opposition to rallying behind Loghain to rebuild the Ferelden army and essentially was the Bannorns voice in triggering that civil war. 
Great Teagan so stuff uniting behind Loghain and reforming the army, And your alternative is.....? Nothing got it, that's great.

Luckily for him my Warden didn't die at Ostagar, not that he even knew that at the time.

[TheKomandorShepard]

- Grey Wardens save Ferelden and Redcliffe (DAO)
- Grey Wardens saved Connor and Isolde

You mean Hof did that not grey wardens...

[Knight of Dane]

You mean Hof did that not grey wardens...

 

They did so representing the Grey Wardens against the blight.

[TheKomandorShepard]

They did so representing the Grey Wardens against the blight.

And? Hardly HoF actions represent entire order , Hof acted on his own individual whims not on grey wardens orders that pretty much didn't contribute to those.

[Knight of Dane]

And? Hardly HoF actions represent entire order , Hof acted on his own individual whims not on grey wardens orders that pretty much didn't contribute to those.

 

They went to get aid for the blight using Grey Warden treaties. It can't get much more on behalf than that.

[TheKomandorShepard]

They went to get aid for the blight using Grey Warden treaties. It can't get much more on behalf than that.

And? Order wasn't involved in the Hof mission (and pretty much his/her actions) with an exception of riordan that was helping in last moments of HoF mission.

[GoldenGail3]

And? Order wasn't involved in the Hof mission (and pretty much his/her actions) with an exception of riordan that was helping in last moments of HoF mission.

The HOF is a represent of the GW, sense you know, they ALL died at Ostagar.

[Aramintai]

Teagan was such a douchebag in Trespasser - the Inquisition freed Redcliffe from the Venatori agents after he was basically kicked from his own castle and restored order in the Hinterlands, he should have been more grateful for that at least. But I guess that's politics for you.

[TheKomandorShepard]

The HOF is a represent of the GW, sense you know, they ALL died at Ostagar.

Once again not rly , HoF actions were HoF actions alone (actions of single individual) not of Grey warden order ,as well you could say that entire grey warden order is villainous because you have played HoF as villain.

[Ynqve]

And? Order wasn't involved in the Hof mission (and pretty much his/her actions) with an exception of riordan that was helping in last moments of HoF mission.

 

They weren't involved because the Fereldan Wardens died at Ostagar and the Orlesians couldn't help them since Loghain closed the borders and their scout got caught by Howe. The only other surviving member of the order (Alistair) IS involved. So yes, the order is highly involved.

 

DAO is about two Wardens trying to deal with a shitty situation while doing the most Warden thing there is - stopping a blight. How is it not a Warden mission?

[TheKomandorShepard]

They weren't involved because the Fereldan Wardens died at Ostagar and the Orlesians couldn't help them since Loghain closed the borders and their scout got caught by Howe. The only other surviving member of the order (Alistair) IS involved. So yes, the order is highly involved.

 

DAO is about two Wardens trying to deal with a shitty situation while doing the most Warden thing there is - stopping a blight. How is it not a Warden mission?

 

That is an excuse why grey warden order didn't take part in fifth blight ,nothing more.

 

Once again it wasn't mission of grey warden order , it wasn't even supported by grey warden order... whole mission once again was whim of single individual not organized action of entire order.Every decision the warden took was his/her own not order that didn't participate in it.Pretty much both hof and alistair acted on their own without support from order and sole mission to stop blight doesn't by any mean that order was involved in it...

 

 

 

 

 

[Xetykins]

That is an excuse why grey warden order didn't take part in fifth blight ,nothing more.
 

Damn those pesky wardens intentionally killing themselves at Ostagar so they could "excuse" themselves from killing the Archdemon!

[TheKomandorShepard]

Damn those pesky wardens intentionally killing themselves at Ostagar so they could "excuse" themselves from killing the Archdemon!

Now you are going off-rails and you try paint it as i was throwing blame instead merely stating fact that grey order wasn't involved in HoF mission and pretty much barely contributed to stopping fifth blight after ostagar.

 

 

 

Blame Loghian, he blocked them out., And by the way, ALISTAIR IS A GREY WARDEN! So no, the HOF and Alistair had to everything alone because everyone at Ostagar DIED! 

As above it isn't about blaming or not but merly about stating facts. And? Once again that alistair is single grey warden acting on his own (and i would rather say just helping HoF) doesn't mean that his actions were order actions ,HoF acted on his own without any support from order ,thus her/his actions were his/her own not grey warden order.

[GoldenGail3]

 

 

Once again it wasn't mission of grey warden order , it wasn't even supported by grey warden order... whole mission once again was whim of single individual not organized action of entire order.Every decision the warden took was his/her own not order that didn't participate in it.Pretty much both hof and alistair acted on their own without support from order and sole mission to stop blight doesn't by any mean that order was involved in it...

 

 

 

 

 

Blame Loghian, he blocked them out., And by the way, ALISTAIR IS A GREY WARDEN! So no, the HOF and Alistair had to everything alone because everyone at Ostagar DIED! 

[Fredward]

Teagan's always been kinda bitchy towards authority figures. "Did he also do what's best for your husband, your Majesty?" It's just directed at us now. Plus Fereldan nobility has always been described as fiercely independent.

 

BUT!

 

I haven't played it yet. And the ragging on Grey Wardens is deeply bizarre considering that in a lot/the majority of situations there will be at least one former Warden on the throne of Fereldan.

[arelenriel]

Look at who he's related to - Eamon- you know- the one who broke up your non Cousland warden because it would lessen Alistairs chances of succeeding at being king- yeah that one - the whole family other than poor Connor are a bunch of manipulators - did you really expect anything different.

[LOLandStuff]

Teagan is jelly because he's inept.

 

He was tired of hearing the villagers talk all day about the Inquisition and how they saved and protected them better than he ever did

At least with the Warden he got to show off playing hero, while the Inquisitor had to retake his home because he got kicked out of it.

[Ynqve]

That is an excuse why grey warden order didn't take part in fifth blight ,nothing more.

 

Once again it wasn't mission of grey warden order , it wasn't even supported by grey warden order... whole mission once again was whim of single individual not organized action of entire order.Every decision the warden took was his/her own not order that didn't participate in it.Pretty much both hof and alistair acted on their own without support from order and sole mission to stop blight doesn't by any mean that order was involved in it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what would the Wardens have to do to make it a proper Warden campaign? Send an army to Ferelden and have the First Warden acting like your baby sitter, giving you orders left and right?

[TheKomandorShepard]

So what would the Wardens have to do to make it a proper Warden campaign? Send an army to Ferelden and have the First Warden acting like your baby sitter, giving you orders left and right?

Send organized forces ,act with approval of the order and anything that makes order (organisation) directly involved in that ,single guy/girl that runs around on their own reflects only himself/herself not an organisation. 

[Milan92]

Teagan probably came across Isabela in a tavern, got rejected and now vents his anger on the Inquisition because they make an easy scapegoat.