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[Asha'bellanar]

Once again you ignore point and shift it toward reason why they weren't involved instead once again what is important fact they weren't.

 

No they don't, once again that HoF is single individual acting on their own without any approval ,involvement or support from the order.The whole mission to stop blight wasn't organized action of the grey warden order only 1 single individual acting on his/her whims.You can stomp with your feet and scream how order was involved in HoF plan but it wasn't.Redcliff ,Connor and Ferelden werent' saved by grey warden order only by HoF.  

Are you suggesting that the Grey Warden order would NOT want the two remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden to act to stop the Blight? "Stop the darkspawn at all costs" is THE reason the Grey Wardens exist.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Let me tel you, Arl Teagan is really a nasty guy. I actually think he's unstable. I really believe that.

 

 

If he doesn't clean up his act and retract his threats against the Inquisition, I have standing to sue him.

[sniper_arrow]

 Let me tel you, Arl Teagan is really a nasty guy. I actually think he's unstable. I really believe that.

 

 

If he doesn't clean up his act and retract his threats against the Inquisition, I have standing to sue him.

 

Will you build a wall around Redcliffe?

[Isaidlunch]

We can only hope Trump Gaspard has his way with Ferelden in the future.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Will you build a wall around Redcliffe?

 

Yes. I'll make them pay for it, too, and it just got 10 feet higher.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Are you suggesting that the Grey Warden order would NOT want the two remaining Grey Wardens in Ferelden to act to stop the Blight? "Stop the darkspawn at all costs" is THE reason the Grey Wardens exist.

LoL , nice necro.

 

No, they wouldn't and didn't considering they weren't happy with your actions.That grey wardens want to stop the blight doesn't mean go and do whatever you want without our consent.And that is just part of my previous point, and i already addressed it here so many times here that you can read it on your own.

[Aren]

LoL , nice necro.

 

No, they wouldn't and didn't considering they weren't happy with your actions.That grey wardens want to stop the blight doesn't mean go and do whatever you want without our consent.And that is just part of my previous point, and i already addressed it here so many times here that you can read it on your own.

The HoF could have not benefited from the helps of the troops without the GW authority of the treaties so the character was representing the order,that the person who saved Tegan and the Nation was physically the warden is not all what it counts

[Tidus]

I had to watch a Trespasser video to see what transpired. I find him the typical "help me!" type  and years later that help is forgotten and they turn against the very ones that saved him.

 

Here's the real burn in the video I watched. Seeing Devine Leliana should have jogged his memory of what the wardens did to save Redcliff after all she help( at least in my games) save Eamond and Redcliff not once but, twice..

[Barquiel]

I don't hate him, but he made my decision to keep the Inquisition under Divine Leliana a lot easier. I wonder why Anora made him the Fereldian representative, we already saw in TME that politics and diplomacy are not exactly his strenghts...

[dragonflight288]

I don't hate him, but he made my decision to keep the Inquisition under Divine Leliana a lot easier. I wonder why Anora made him the Fereldian representative, we already saw in TME that politics and diplomacy are not exactly his strenghts...

 

The actions of the Inquisitions soldiers and the entitled attitude they had, even threatening to put the Orlesian guards, whom's estate we were there as guests, in the stocks made my decision to disband the Inquisition easier. 

 

People's impressions are what they see from first contact, and if a soldier is a jerk, that first contact colors the whole organization. 

[teh DRUMPf!!]

The actions of the Inquisitions soldiers and the entitled attitude they had, even threatening to put the Orlesian guards, whom's estate we were there as guests, in the stocks made my decision to disband the Inquisition easier. 

 

People's impressions are what they see from first contact, and if a soldier is a jerk, that first contact colors the whole organization. 

 

I actually find that having my followers brutalize people who oppose me is wonderful. You should see the way we eject hecklers at my rallies. It's really a thing of beauty.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Teeeeeeeeeegaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan?

 

'Oooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees theeeeeeeeeeeeeeees wooooooooomaaaaan Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan?

[Gervaise]

In Teagan's case I feel in the future it is going to be very much a case of "you should be careful what you wish for".    The Inquisition was basically doing his job for him in keeping order in his part of Ferelden and then just because things have gone a bit quite, he wants it shut down.   So my Inquisitor did just that; went off to the Freemarches to join his friend Varric in Kirkwall and focus on stopping Solas from destroying the world.   If there are problems now in the Hinterlands/Crestwood and other paces that Teagan is responsible for he will have to deal with them himself, or see his Arling go to pot, along with the revenues that keep him in the style to which he has become accustomed.   Everyone in the Hinterlands knows that it was the Inquisitor and the Inquisition, not Arl Teagan who saved them, so whatever fond memories they had of him from back when his nephew terrorised Redcliffe, they will be totally shot now.     Presumably Orlais will feel free to ignore the peace treaty we negotiated as well since the Inquisition aren't around to enforce it.    Enjoy yourself while you can Teagan.

[sniper_arrow]

I actually find that having my followers brutalize people who oppose me is wonderful. You should see the way we eject hecklers at my rallies. It's really a thing of beauty.

 

I honestly wish we had that option in the game.

[TheKomandorShepard]

The HoF could have not benefited from the helps of the troops without the GW authority of the treaties so the character was representing the order,that the person who saved Tegan and the Nation was physically the warden is not all what it counts

Sorry, but that i use police badge to further my own case doesn't make police involved in it nor police should take credit for doing nothing.Pretty much aside from that treaties were only useful to enter Orzammar. Truth is once again there was no institutional effort or support toward HoF mission so HoF mission was his individual whim not organized action of the order. 

[Andromelek]

Wow, these nevarran necromancers... The troll it's new though

[Aren]

I don' dislike Tegan simply because i'm neutral on him just as i was in DAO.

 

Sorry, but that i use police badge to further my own case doesn't make police involved in it nor police should take credit for doing nothing.Pretty much aside from that treaties were only useful to enter Orzammar. Truth is once again there was no institutional effort or support toward HoF mission so HoF mission was his individual whim not organized action of the order. 

This logic is flawed,the character is a GW who can use the  authority of the order and their prestige to further the cause to stop the blight.

Being a warden is useful to earn trust from Zahtrain,Greagoir and many others characters as well as their help by legal obligations they have towards the order in a time of blight.

[TheKomandorShepard]

This logic is flawed,the character is a GW who can use the  authority of the order and their prestige to further the cause to stop the blight.

Being a warden is useful to earn trust from Zahtrain,Greagoir and many others characters as well as their help by legal obligations they have towards the order in a time of blight.

 

No that logic isn't not flawed , as well you could have claimed if random person found treaties on the road and used them to further their own cause and grey warden order would be involved in that cause despite they wouldn't have anything to do with it.Once again order didn't help in, support or authorized HoF mission thus had nothing to do with it making it actions of individual not institution.

 

Except treaties are practically useless when it comes to reciving support, the warden doesn't get factions support because of treaties only because making favors to leaders of those factions.

[Aren]

 

Except treaties are practically useless when it comes to reciving support, the warden doesn't get factions support because of treaties only because making favors to leaders of those factions.

They have an obligation to help the wardens the fact that they need to be helped first is because they are in no condition to help.

Once again you are wrong,being a member of the order is what allow the character to use them as troops otherwise they could have simply refused to help but they can't because of the treaties

[TheKomandorShepard]

They have an obligation to help the wardens the fact that they need to be helped first is because they are in no condition to help.

Once again you are wrong,being a member of the order is what allow the character to use them as troops otherwise they could have simply refused to help but they can't because of the treaties

 

They don't help you unless you do what they want and no Thedas history simply shows that leaders are perfectly capable refusing to help with blights.

 

And no im not wrong , every faction refuses to help you unless you do things they want you to do otherwise you won't recive help what rendered treaties useless because Leaders help you only in return for favor.

[Aren]

They don't help you unless you do what they want and no Thedas history simply shows that leaders are perfectly capable refusing to help with blights.

 

And no im not wrong , every faction refuses to help you unless you do things they want you to do otherwise you won't recive help 

They don't help because they can't if they are not helped first.

[TheKomandorShepard]

They don't help because they can't if they are not helped first.

Zathrian and Orzammar could help you but didn't unless you solved their problems, besides once again it is irrelevant in the end you recive help not because of treaties only because you made a favor.

[Andromelek]

Zathrian and Orzammar could help you but didn't unless you solved their problems, besides once again it is irrelevant in the end you recive help not because of treaties only because you made a favor.

Sure, sending the hunters to fight while the werewolves are constantly attacking the clan should be a great idea.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Sure, sending the hunters to fight while the werewolves are constantly attacking the clan should be a great idea.

You realize they weren't chained there and could simply leave? 

[Andromelek]

You realize they weren't chained there and could simply leave? 

Neither the werewolves, the Lady of the Forest was planning the ambushes to make Zathrian remove the curse, you really think she would allow them to leave?