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[robertmarilyn]

My IQ will try to change Solas' mind but I doubt that is possible. I've always played humans and my humans will fight Solas to keep him from destroying the world. But even if I played an elf, my elf would do the same thing since Solas wants to destroy everything. He doesn't even really know if he can make things the way they were before, yet he's willing to keep destroying in order to assuage his feelings of guilt. My IQs will try to protect those that are living "now". 

[Heimdall]

Sorry, but I'm not a fan of the whole 'kill the people who are content to put them out of their misery' line of thought.

 

Solas isn't out to restore everyone's 'emotions.' He's out to kill them by the millions.

I'm just trying to provide some perspective on why the world the way it is horrifies him and he feels he needs to change it.

 

I'd love more clarity on that from him, because while letting the Fade pour into the world would create chaos and widespread destruction, effectively destroying the world as we know it, it can't kill everyone, otherwise what's the point?  In fairness to him though, he knows its a terrible thing, he just sees it as the only option that will undo the damage he caused.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Will probably end up killing Solas, I'd imagine though we will get a way to achieve what Solas wants but without wiping out the world.

[Merengues 1945]

Are we entirely sure humans will not also benefit from it? Maybe not immortal but with more magic they could still pose a threat.

 

Tevinter was not the mighty empire it became when they attacked Arlathan, and they also find allies in the dwarves who provided them with lyrium... nowadays with the human magical population, it could be a bloody battle if it comes to it.

 

After a particularly nasty codex that suggested that elves exiled the dwarves into the underground, I would definitely see them allying with the humans to butcher this group of elven mages.

[Sjofn]

I'm just trying to provide some perspective on why the world the way it is horrifies him and he feels he needs to change it.

 

I'd love more clarity on that from him, because while letting the Fade pour into the world would create chaos and widespread destruction, effectively destroying the world as we know it, it can't kill everyone, otherwise what's the point?  In fairness to him though, he knows its a terrible thing, he just sees it as the only option that will undo the damage he caused.

 

We know there are still ancient elves in the world, hidden away, and I suspect he's banking on them being able to survive his hard reset of the world. He does, after all, say the first of his people do not die so easily when explaining how he knows the "gods" he sealed away survived. Modern elves, though? They totally die easily. And so does everyone else.

[Heimdall]

 

We know there are still ancient elves in the world, hidden away, and I suspect he's banking on them being able to survive his hard reset of the world. He does, after all, say the first of his people do not die so easily when explaining how he knows the "gods" he sealed away survived. Modern elves, though? They totally die easily. And so does everyone else.

Yeah, I just don't think it automatically kills all non ancient elves, just that the chaos of removing the Veil is highly destructive and likely to get most people killed.

[Jackie1776]

Maybe DA4 will be a MMORPG in which we all fight each other in the war. 

[Nefla]

He's crazy and doesn't care about collateral damage at all. If he succeeds, hoards of people of every race will die, not just humans. I'd rather give the people of Thedas a chance to change. I think they're ready to change for the better.

[JJDXB]

Will probably end up killing Solas, I'd imagine though we will get a way to achieve what Solas wants but without wiping out the world.

 

The latter would have to be the very last game in the series.  Accounting for that choice in future games would be... a nightmare

 

What question do you have to ask for Solas to answer what he did in the OP?  Because aside from that explicit line, I don't recall him stating my people (elves, non-Ancient) had to die.  When you ask if you can join him as a friend, he says you would have to watch your friends die, which implies that you ... survive?  I dunno.  The elves, fallen as they have, still see the crossroads in colour.

 

Leading from that, I still don't know whether Mythal was working with him or not.  It makes sense in the context of "You know not what you ask, child" and "Great reckoning" but why would she then send something through the eluvian?

[Andreas Amell]

This is why I've never played as an elf. But I won't let this stop my hopes of reconciliation with the elven race. 

 

I might even side with the dwarves in the end. 

[ThePhoenixKing]

I'd like an elven PC (Dalish or City Elf) to call out Solas on his BS, reject his self-serving logic, remind him of his constant failures, before shoving a greatsword through his face.

[Andreas Amell]

I'd like an elven PC (Dalish or City Elf) to call out Solas on his BS, reject his self-serving logic, remind him of his constant failures, before shoving a greatsword through his face.

I wonder if past Dalish characters might do that. I hate the idea that the Dalish in Ferelden will become enemies. 

[Vit246]

He's crazy and doesn't care about collateral damage at all. If he succeeds, hoards of people of every race will die, not just humans. I'd rather give the people of Thedas a chance to change. I think they're ready to change for the better.

 

Pffft!

When has change ever been accomplished without violence and collateral?

[Nefla]

Pffft!

When has change ever been accomplished without violence and collateral?

Hasn't there been enough violence? We're covered in enough blood to fill a tub

[Vit246]

Hasn't there been enough violence? We're covered in enough blood to fill a tub

Its called the Dragon Age, not the Kumbaya Age.

We need an ocean of blood and a mountain of bodies to build a foundation for a new world.

[Nefla]

Its called the Dragon Age, not the Kumbaya Age.

We need an ocean of blood and a mountain of bodies to build a foundation for a new world.

Pretty sure the next age will be the kumbaya age!

[DuskWanderer]

Solas says the same thing to a dwarf. And put me down as making that rat (censored) Tranquil

[TheExtreamH]

Solas can be related to real world mad man, Hitler for example. The genocide of Humans, Dwarves and to some extent Qunari. Will be something risky and very massive for Bioware to undertake. Not only will they be killing off most if not all NPC's we have grown to love, But also all our PC. Something i personally wouldn't like to see happen.  Tho i truly doubt this plan will go ahead without a hitch. I have a hunch something regarding Sandal, Morrigan and maybe Flemeth will arise to stop this.

Sandal still to this moment unknown to us who and what he is. We know he is powerful with enchantments.

Morrigan has (canon) drank from the well, giving her the powers similar to that of Mythal. Tho she is bound to her forever*

Flemeth, sure we all saw her turn to stone. But theirs always that wisp she sent thought the mirror. I'm still not convinced we have seen the last of her.

 

We all know one thing, Solas isn't a god only a extremely powerful mage and mage's can be killed.

[jedidotflow]

If restoring the Veil means Dorian dies, Solas is going down.

[Milan92]

Kill Solas. He's already on my sh*t list anyway.

[Reznore57]

It's pretty bad if you're an elven Inquisitor.

On one hand he wants to restore the elves what every Dalish dreamt of ...on the other hand  Dalish aren't "true" elves and now even they  seem like fluffly open minded bunnies of compassion.

 

I'm not sure what Solas is saying to elves , I doubt they are hard to convince.Immortality , magic , a new world with a new elven empire..he probably skip the part where current elves would die as well.And the whole "unworthy" "not people" "tranquil like".

I imagine still some elves would choose to sacrifice themselves , it must be frustrating to be an elf in current Thedas , it's been thousand of years of slavery , being poor or pariah for them.Things can slowly change in the south , but elves are like dwarves , a dying race as far as power goes.

 

I imagine my Inky will be busy keeping elves away from Solas or the Qun.

But thinking about what he could say ...Honestly it would take hundred of years to get elves away from alienages , and being an active part of human societies.I'm not talking the special snowflake elf , like Briala , or the Inqui etc...and even then it's a bit like wanting human peasent to have a shot too.

 

Solas plan would boost up the level of confort for every future elf , even a servant.With magic life would be easier etc...

Me I'm 100% against it , I think Solas is a moron who just isn't looking at the big picture.Remember the world without the veil produced mages  like the Creators.

They were about to destroy the world , and the nature of the world and the whole elven civilization has to pay to get rid of those .

It's easier to get rid of an Archdemon or Cory.

 

Anyway I can understand why elves would join , even if they know the truth.Sucks though.

[Cz-99]

I've said it, time and time again - elves are the worst thing to happen to any world they inhabit. If this ain't proof enough, I dunno what is.

 

The giant elf secret migration and the fact that he has elven servants makes me think he's either letting some of them join, or he's gonna sacrifice them and they're too dumb to realize it. Either way, scumbag elves are scumbag.

[9TailsFox]

Yeah, I just don't think it automatically kills all non ancient elves, just that the chaos of removing the Veil is highly destructive and likely to get most people killed.

Of course it's not. I don't understand why some people say like Solas just instantly kill all who is not elf, and not just elf but specific elf. Solas just fix what he did created veil. He not destroy world biggest problem will be demons. imagine nightmare in real world and everyone is frightened because world changed. People like Sera would get heart attack.

[Antmarch456]

I wonder if Solas and the Ancient Elves are the equivalent of StarChild and the Reapers...oh boy...

[Andreas Amell]

Solas can be related to real world mad man, Hitler for example. The genocide of Humans, Dwarves and to some extent Qunari. 

 

We all know one thing, Solas isn't a god only a extremely powerful mage and mage's can be killed.

 

I don't consider Solas be close to Hitler. There's obviously a lot of guilt inside of him from what he did. I pointed out before that he acted like those intellectual revolutionaries who wanted to overthrow the establishment. He reminds me of Shunack from "Origin: Spirits of the Past". That guilt has made him desperate to restore a lost glory that he believes will make up for what's happened. But he's still repeating the same old Elven mistakes.

 

• He doesn't care for the rights of other races.
• He believes he can justify the damage he'll create by messing with so much power.
• He believes he alone can make things right.