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Seriously what the Hell Bioware ! Where was the choice ? ( SPOILERS)


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Or beter yet, make it a lyrium propelled rocket arm.

 

Yeah... the first dwaf who builds me a lyrium power fist shall be made a paragon!


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Likewise, if they want to keep the Inquisitor for a new installment, they can do so because now we are without the super power that made us special in Inquisition. We have a new metal arm (or whatever) and have to learn how to fight all over again, more or less, and thus can start again at a low level and so on. I'd be all behind that idea, but no matter what it's STILL better than "Garsh, we 'unno wut happun to the Inquisitor."


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That is a moral discussion, but no one can live alone without an arm, would be hard and really sad, wake up every morning and see you haven't your hand.

The inquisitor saves the world, she/he doesn't deserve that end.

Um people can live alone with only one arm. Wtf? Being disabled is not a death sentence and most people can live normal lives just as they did before.


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Yeah... the first dwarf who builds me a lyrium power fist shall be made a paragon!

A prosthetic lyrium arm that shoots hadokens would be nice.
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Well, it's pretty much not up to you. I doubt the Inq knew Solas' healing method would involve amputation.

 

So the only other option you'd have is death, and that'd be kinda pointless. This way you're given a chance to launch an offensive against Solas, and regardless of whether you're planing on redeeming him or killing him - at least you get the chance to do something. Dying would be lame and somewhat selfish. Plus, I doubt many people would prefer having the option to die in vain.

 

This is also the game's end, and the Inq will most likely not be a playable character in DA4 (or ever again), so I don't really get what the issue here is. Not like you're forced to continue playing the game with a missing arm. If you're talking about story-wise... That's also a bit silly to QQ about... Headcanon getting a bionic arm and becoming Venom Snake or something.

 

And for the record, losing an arm makes EVERY class useless. The whole point was basically that the Inq's fighting days are over.


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That is a moral discussion, but no one can live alone without an arm, would be hard and really sad, wake up every morning and see you haven't your hand.

The inquisitor saves the world, she/he doesn't deserve that end.

Lots of people all over the world have only one arm and many of them do live alone. They can even lace their own clothing and do buttons, as long as the clothing fits properly. I have a harder time imagining how someone with long nails buttons their jeans.

 

As for people saying that weapon-and-shield warriors and archers are doomed, they might use prosthetic weapons. If the Inquisitor becomes a Red Jenny, they're pictured with a crossbow mounted where their lower arm used to be.


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simple

 

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That is a moral discussion, but no one can live alone without an arm, would be hard and really sad, wake up every morning and see you haven't your hand.
The inquisitor saves the world, she/he doesn't deserve that end.

Sure, but the inquisitor is clearly not alone, and potentially has someone whip up a nifty prosthesis to boot. Needless to say, Inky's not going to lack for support. But at the same time, simply having one arm doesn't make the Inquisitor a helpless invalid that can't take care of themselves. Sure, it sucks to lose a limb, but it's no guarantee that their life will be some sort of brief living hell either.
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That is a moral discussion, but no one can live alone without an arm, would be hard and really sad, wake up every morning and see you haven't your hand.

The inquisitor saves the world, she/he doesn't deserve that end.

I don't mind so much with my Inquisitor who romanced Cullen. He would help. But it doesn't make me want to finish my single Inquisitor. I felt bad enough for her already.

 

Edit: Man, I hope that didn't come out the wrong way. Tell me if it did.

Its the same inquisitior, only with one arm less. It should not really bother you that much, be a lil bit more open minded. It will be challenging but I am sure bioware has some nice things to show us with it

Oh I agree with that, and I hope they have Quizzy come back the next game to show they're still just as awesome as always. It would be pretty cool in-universe and for our own world to make a statement like that.



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Lots of people all over the world have only one arm

Las Vegas is full of one armed bandits...


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Loved it.

 

Honestly.

 

We needed a consequence. The mark wasnt our fault, but it was LONG foreshadowed that it would have consequences and take it's toll for the power it granted us.


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Plenty of people can and do live without an arm, some live without all of their limbs and it does not prevent them from living their lives from morning to night to morning once more. They learn to adapt to it and it does not limit their ability to be badass whether they be fictional or non-fictional people.

 

I do not understand why some people act like this is equivalent to death nor why it means the Inquisitor can no longer be a capable fighter in their own right: There is such a thing as one-armed swordsmanship as an example.

 

To put in another way: A warrior can still wield a sword, a rogue can still wield a blade as well as toss bombs and a mage can still do magic. They can adapt.

 

In my opinion, I find the idea that losing a limb means you've lost your potential always and forever to be a mighty bit silly to be honesty.
 

 

A lot of people live with cancer. My best grilfriends little daughter got here birthday last week. We are so happy that she is still alive after years of fighting the Leukemia (shes got it with 4 years, it was a HORRIBLE time). But I REALLY don't want to have THIS REALITY in my games, too. Sorry - NO WAY!

 

 

If I want reality I look the news. Or: If I want sad reality I look to my life. I play games to "fly away from reality!"

 

 

Possibility to solve this: Give a little patch ("Back at Skyhold - backing bag's") with a little Wartable mission: You have 3 different choices: One choice is to let the arm grow back. BUT: It will be never ever again 100 % fit. So however: The fighting days are over and you have a "only 50 % arm". BUT you are not invalid, if you don't want.

 

Why you just don't accept that some players just want to finish the game with THEIR Inquisitor. And they want to have their hero ... and their hero is NOT one-armed. Some mutch time spending in CharacterCreator and Moding and than .... mfpgl :(

 

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I was hoping the inquisitor would die but i gotta say i really really loved this. I mean we're like mother ****** Rick Grimes or Oliver ****** Queen. So ****** cool!

And uh... acting like the inquisitor is some pathetic looser who wont be able to get up without help is kind of insulting. I mean I don't know any real life cripples but still.. nothing wrong with them(aside from the obvious physical stuff).
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And uh... acting like the inquisitor is some pathetic looser who wont be able to get up without help is kind of insulting. I mean I don't know any real life cripples but still.. nothing wrong with them(aside from the obvious physical stuff).

I'm just worried that's the reason Bioware made them lose the arm in the first place. I hope not, but until we know more about them and the next game, it feels a bit like "Hey, let's cripple the Inquisitor and make them "helpless" so we can shove them to the sidelines for the next game." That would certainly be insulting to disabled people.


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A prosthetic lyrium arm that shoots hadokens would be nice.

 

I want a prosthetic arm so I can do cqc :P



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I want a prosthetic arm so I can do cqc :P

 

Nah, Inquisitor should become Liquid Ocelot.



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The Inquisitor losing an arm sucks, but she'll hardly be an invalid. These are stories of exceptional people like the Inquisitor who have been through hell and back. A little thing like a missing arm isn't going to slow her down much. Like others have said, Dagna can make a lyrium infused prosthetic that would actually work. It's not ideal, but it's better than being dead. I mean, I saw that coming a mile away, that the anchor would eventually kill the Inquisitor. Best guess is that BW did this as a best compromise and it does fit Solas's character. At the same time, it raises a lot of interesting ideas about life after the Inquisition for its leader.

 

Inquisitor: Sera, I can undress myself, thank you very much.

Sera: There you go spoilin' the fun out of everything again.


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Nah, Inquisitor should become Liquid Ocelot.

 

Only if Dagna screws up the enchanted arm lol



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Someone is dissatisfied with a Bioware ending and demanding a refund huh? You know what means people! *drinks*
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I'm just worried that's the reason Bioware made them lose the arm in the first place. I hope not, but until we know more about them and the next game, it feels a bit like "Hey, let's cripple the Inquisitor and make them "helpless" so we can shove them to the sidelines for the next game." That would certainly be insulting to disabled people.

 

I dearly hope it was not Bioware's intent to make it seem as if it the decision to remove one of the Inquisitor's hand was how they intended to remove the Inquisitor as protagonist because they provided excellent reasons as to why a new protagonist was required so making the Inquisitor's disability the reason would be Unfortunate Implications to say the least especially since the Inquisitor would not become less capable because they lacked one hand and forearm.

 

Thankfully, Bioware has not given me the impression that this was the reasoning behind the decision so I'll take the removal of the Inquisitor's arm as being because amputation made sense in terms of how to remove the mark from the Inquisitor through non-magical means.  
 


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I'm just worried that's the reason Bioware made them lose the arm in the first place. I hope not, but until we know more about them and the next game, it feels a bit like "Hey, let's cripple the Inquisitor and make them "helpless" so we can shove them to the sidelines for the next game." That would certainly be insulting to disabled people.

I kinda like the idea of my quizy becoming a chestmaster character, a character who has massive influence and is the one who will be doing the planning. While also having  her get involved in some fights to show that she can still kick ass. It would be a very fresh outcome for a PC.


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I kinda like the idea of my quizy becoming a chestmaster character, a character who has massive influence and is the one who will be doing the planning. While also her having get involved in some fights to show that she can still kick ass. It would be a very fresh outcome for a PC.

 

So do I especially because I love being in the role of a chessmaster and it'd be a good way of keeping the Inquisitor as a meaningful character with impact without requiring them to be appearing at all in the next installment to participates in fights. They've built it up rather well too.

 

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Well, it's pretty much not up to you. I doubt the Inq knew Solas' healing method would involve amputation.

 

Seriously.

 

This is like complaining because Morrigan ran off on her own to try and get the Well of Sorrows. "WTF Bioware! Where was the choice!?" Uh, Morrigan made it.

 

Solas made a choice to save you. At what point exactly would you have been able to change anything?

 

 

A lot of people live with cancer. My best grilfriends little daughter got here birthday last week. We are so happy that she is still alive after years of fighting the Leukemia (shes got it with 4 years, it was a HORRIBLE time). But I REALLY don't want to have THIS REALITY in my games, too. Sorry - NO WAY!

 

 

If I want reality I look the news. Or: If I want sad reality I look to my life. I play games to "fly away from reality!"

 

 

Possibility to solve this: Give a little patch ("Back at Skyhold - backing bag's") with a little Wartable mission: You have 3 different choices: One choice is to let the arm grow back. BUT: It will be never ever again 100 % fit. So however: The fighting days are over and you have a "only 50 % arm". BUT you are not invalid, if you don't want.

 

Why you just don't accept that some players just want to finish the game with THEIR Inquisitor. And they want to have their hero ... and their hero is NOT one-armed. Some mutch time spending in CharacterCreator and Moding and than .... mfpgl  :(

 

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It sounds like you'd be better served writing fanfiction than seeing things that other people write or experience. Or at the very least, looking to other genres for your entertainment. Fiction isn't all about wish-fulfillment.


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I kinda like the idea of my quizy becoming a chestmaster character, a character who has massive influence and is the one who will be doing the planning. While also having  her get involved in some fights to show that she can still kick ass. It would be a very fresh outcome for a PC.

True besides if your inquisitor is a reaver, loss of a arm is not a issue at all.



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I dearly hope it was not Bioware's intent to make it seem as if it the decision to remove one of the Inquisitor's hand was how they intended to remove the Inquisitor as protagonist because they provided excellent reasons as to why a new protagonist was required so making the Inquisitor's disability the reason would be Unfortunate Implications to say the least especially since the Inquisitor would not become less capable because they lacked one hand and forearm.

 

Thankfully, Bioware has not given me the impression that this was the reasoning behind the decision so I'll take the removal of the Inquisitor's arm as being because amputation made sense in terms of how to remove the mark from the Inquisitor through non-magical means.  
 

Well I certainly hope that wasn't their intention either, but I still think if the Inquisitor becomes some sort of chessmaster character instead of what she already was, it would be silly, since people have already come up with plenty of solutions, and even awesome new gameplay ideas in relation to the arm. Though, apparently Solas removed it with magic, so that was the magical means?

 

I kinda like the idea of my quizy becoming a chestmaster character, a character who has massive influence and is the one who will be doing the planning. While also having  her get involved in some fights to show that she can still kick ass. It would be a very fresh outcome for a PC.

I... have mixed feelings about this. I want to see them return, and in some ways this would be fresh and interesting, but I feel like if that's what they do, we'll end up with something worse than Hawke, because having the Inquisitor make tactical and moral decision/planning without our input is guaranteed to break the character.

 

I also think her becoming an advisor to a new protagonist simply because Solas knows her is a terrible reason. What, you can make plans, and Solas knowing you doesn't matter, but you can't go adventuring, because he knows you? I can't see it. Not to mention the simple fact that that confronting Solas is now a very personal thing, and doing it with someone else would be very unsatisfying comparatively.