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Seriously what the Hell Bioware ! Where was the choice ? ( SPOILERS)


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Malthazar1234

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please no more choices!!

after sacrificing the chargers on iron bull's personal quest just to be betrayed in the end, makes me afraid of making choices again...

i've never been so hurt before in any game.

i still refuse to accept that iron fuck1ng bull betrayed me



#102
Jackie1776

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If I want sad reality I look to my life. I play games to "fly away from reality!"

 

You should probably steer clear of any more Bioware games, then. Their writers subsist on our tears.



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I'd like an option for the Inquisitor to die, but I don't think my Inquisitor would have taken it. Not after what she heard from Solas. She needs to live, to try and convince him to change his mind. Because if my Lavellan can't, then no one can't.


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Have no intention of playing the DLC, but this reasoning doesn't go anywhere.

 

BioWare is in control of the story. They can make anything hey want happen. They can 'force' the player character into any number of totally stupid things. And it can make total sense within the story because "it's this or death."

 

That by itself doesn't do anything to make it acceptable writing.

 

Looks like your reasoning doesn't really go anywhere either. Per the norm, earth clan.


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It's a world where semi-automatic ballistas exist. Surely Dagna or Bianca can craft a prostethic arm for the Inquisitor. Maybe an overpowered arm like Bucky Barnes or Darth Vader.

 

T he truth is that the power of the inquisitor was kinda OP so it had to go for the story to be able to develop nicely. Also to keep the three protagonists more or less in the same level of awesome. Now I dare you to say that the Inquisitor is cooler than the Warden-Commander/King Cousland.



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So I was thinking about this. Could Solas' view on free will be a metaphor for Bioware's writers? Sure,he says all creatures deserve free will and a choice in their lives, but when it really comes down to it, he's going to manipulate the system so that you have a limited set of options, all of which play into his plans. The difference is really just semantics to make it easier for him to live with himself.

You can't finish the story without making a limited set of choices, because it's nearly impossible to write a game with vastly different outcomes and still have a workable franchise.

I do wish you could call him out on that point.

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It's a world where semi-automatic ballistas exist. Surely Dagna or Bianca can craft a prostethic arm for the Inquisitor. Maybe an overpowered arm like Bucky Barnes or Darth Vader.

Or Azog:
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Have no intention of playing the DLC,

Your loss
 

but this reasoning doesn't go anywhere.

Why? Either you lose your arm or your life.
 

BioWare is in control of the story. They can make anything hey want happen. They can 'force' the player character into any number of totally stupid things. And it can make total sense within the story because "it's this or death."

No kidding. Has anyone ever said different that Bioware is not in control of their story?
 

That by itself doesn't do anything to make it acceptable writing.

Your hatred of DAI is very strong. What exactly was it about DAI that caused you to be so hateful of the game?



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Your loss
 

Why? Either you lose your arm or your life.
 

No kidding. Has anyone ever said different that Bioware is not in control of their story?
 

Your hatred of DAI is very strong. What exactly was it about DAI that caused you to be so hateful of the game?


I assume it's the writing, since he complains about it constantly, as if he is some kind of arbiter of what does and does not constitute a quality story.

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 you still have to lop off a hand making a Sword and Shield or Archer character useless from that point on.

 

In my ending he inquisitor said "My adventuring days are over" before looking at his missing hand. So im guessind he will take a different role from now on.



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please no more choices!!

after sacrificing the chargers on iron bull's personal quest just to be betrayed in the end, makes me afraid of making choices again...

i've never been so hurt before in any game.

i still refuse to accept that iron fuck1ng bull betrayed me

What did you expect when you made bull stay with the Qun. Choices should have consequences.


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I assume it's the writing, since he complains about it constantly, as if he is some kind of arbiter of what does and does not constitute a quality story.

Not enough heroism.


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#113
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It was a bit of a cop out. Solas' had the power to put the veil up, has the power to tear it down. Can't do anything for you but remove your arm. Not buying it.


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Aulis Vaara

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please no more choices!!
after sacrificing the chargers on iron bull's personal quest just to be betrayed in the end, makes me afraid of making choices again...
i've never been so hurt before in any game.
i still refuse to accept that iron fuck1ng bull betrayed me


Are you kidding, this is a fantastic choice in the game and one that actually matters!
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It was a bit of a cop out. Solas' had the power to put the veil up, has the power to tear it down. Can't do anything for you but remove your arm. Not buying it.

Solas healing it like it's nothing with no price would be a cop out. Power comes with a price, and this is the price the quizy must pay for having used such a powerful tool.


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I see people are up in arms about what I have said there are many reasons this really annoyed me but most of all is the devs utter lies everytime they speak failing to make the game match what they say :

 

1)Remember the video in which Laidlaw and others mentioned how DAI was "made by PC Gamers for PC Gamers" yeah what we got was a shoddy console port complete with the crappy inferior console UI and completely ganked tactics options for companions compared even to DA2.

 

2)How many times have those same 2 faced devs gone on videos, in forums, on panels and talked about how they "respect player agency" only for their games to give you no player agency or render what little player agency the do give meaningless.Its not a bloddy choice when you are only given 1 way and that's Bioware's way. 

 

3)They said for this DLC that you would "decide the fate of the Inquisition" when the reality is you don't do that at all no matter which of the fake "choices" you make the Inquisition still exists the only difference is its size when all of the "choices" leads to the exact same outcome its not a bloody choice because their is no alternate outcome !

 

Sure if they had offered the possibility that The Inquisitor dies I would not have taken it however we were not even given that option at all we were given no option.As others have said Solas is supposed to be this all powerful mage that created the veil itself and he could clearly hold back the progress of the mark with nothing more than a thought so removing it while keeping the hand should have been simple and would have had a cost in that the Inquisitor would have to adapt to not having the power of the mark any longer.  



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Hell solas also says that no one but him could have used the anchor without suffering damage. He did the best he could which was to neutralize it.



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an archer useless ?  think again 

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I always new he was gonna lose the hand, story wise it made sense.



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Dear OP. Thank ME3. Also, Trespasser is DLC which is always optional. Killing the main character in an optional DLC just isn't good strategy, choice or not.


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OP, disabled people exist in real life, and most amputees aren't super thrilled about having to lose an arm - but it's a fact of life when you're in a dangerous profession: you could get hurt. Especially when your magical glowing hand is going nuclear.

Hell, I'm surprised the Inquisitor is the first PC to lose a limb. And look at Bull! His body actually shows evidence of a mercenary life... heavy scarring, fingers missing, one eye missing, leg with a brace... that's a LOT more immersive to me than the Warden or Hawke being completely physically flawless after all the battles they've fought.
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an archer useless ?  think again 

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Yes this look great, I regret I refuse Sera offer to join red Jenny I just wanted Inquisitor be whit Cass. My mage Inquisitor knight enchanter so he just make magical sword.



#124
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I do not think the role of chessmaster or adviser is silly at all. Solas knows how the Inquisitor and the companions work. The Inquisitor does not know how entirely how Solas works. For example a real life situation occurred in WWII where Patton and his army was able to take on Rommel and the Germans because Patton used the tactics that Rommel had written in a book on mobile warfare (blitzkrieg). The same tactics that Rommel used in defeating others.

 

Solas would have a distinct advantage because he knows how the Inquisitor approaches strategy and how the Inquisitor would execute that strategy. The Inquisitor would better serve by lending his/her expertise to someone Solas does not know to bring Solas down.

That's actually my entire point. Solas knowing how the Inquisitor fights means nothing really, they should still be able to go adventuring. But Solas knowing how they strategize means more, which is why being an advisor makes less sense. If they're just giving advice to someone new, it's the same as acting themselves.



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please no more choices!!

after sacrificing the chargers on iron bull's personal quest just to be betrayed in the end, makes me afraid of making choices again...

i've never been so hurt before in any game.

i still refuse to accept that iron fuck1ng bull betrayed me

 

I have a bit the same situation like you, but reverse ... I was SOOOO proud and happy when Bull told the Qunari Lady: NO WAY!

 

I'm sorry for you, but for me it was a very special, imrpessive moment. And: There was a important situation where Bull's "family" ( the mercenarys) where in danger And you told Bull ... to let them die? There was a scene in the tavern before and you have seen how important they are for "The Iron Bull". And than you wonder that he become mad ...?

 

Make a nother playtrough and this time you let "Iron Bulls family" alive. ;)

 

*HUG* *HUG* I'm sorry for you. :(

 

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