I think you were talking about Therinfall reboubt perhaps.
If I was, I need to get my hairy eyeball symbols straightened out.
EDIT: Ugh. If that's the only spot with the eyes, then I flat out mis-remembered and mis-applied said mis-remembering. That would've just been the Envy demon obsessing over the Inquisition's standard.
I think you were talking about Therinfall reboubt perhaps.
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Thanks.
I think dwarves were more akin to constructs or an immune system of sorts. Look at what happens to our Descent guide after getting blasted by the Titan.
She hears music (ala a ghoul and darkspawn, who have a sort of hive mind). We know that the blight is tied to red lyrium (red lyrium has the blight). We further suspect that darkspawn don't have a "soul" in the traditional sense (whatever that means in Thedas) and we know the process through which they are birthed by brood mothers makes them different beings from the races that spawn them.
I think the dwarves were originally the darkspawn equivalent for a healthy titan - field by blue lyrium in the same way the blight fuels darkspawn and red lyrium.
So the blight won't end if all the old gods die. every blight is a doom counter.
That's a very interesting idea, though my next question would be how this links to what happened to Cory and Co. when they went to the City.
Anyway, I guess the Shal Brytol (sp?) were dwarves trying to regain or maintain their connection to the Titan by encasing themselves in Lyrium armor?
I think that it's still too premature to speculate on the Black City without learning more of what Solas did with and to the Fade in creating the Veil. My own theory is that what we see as the physical Fade just happened to be another elven pocket dimension, but Solas somehow "separated" out part of the world in two (the "splitting in two" we hear about in the library in Trespasser) and stuffed the "Fade" part of it into a place. That's consistent with what he tells us about the pre-Veil world - where the Fade was not a place one went. The physical Fade that we see also looks like the ruined elven pocket dimensions - floating shattered rocks, broken down statutes and citadels, red lyrium, etc. Since we can reasonably assume what Solas wanted to do was trap the Evanuris in some way when creating the Veil, it may be that he chose a pocket dimension tied to them. So here's my theory:
Among the many elven pocket dimensions, there was one either crafted out of a titan or one that somehow used parts of it, and through whatever process leads to red lyrium (and so blight) that titan was corrupted. The ancient elves could to some degree control that corruption, and part of it was featured (or locked in) to a Citadel (i.e., the Black City). However the Magisters were lured to it - whatever ties the old gods have to it - just had them let it out.
Given how the process of becoming a golem requires being encased in lyrium armour, one wonders whether "dwarves" are just the half-finished mid-product of whatever the true titant defence mechanism was, i..e., what we see in the Shal Brytol.
That said, the key to stopping Solas' crazy plan may be linked to the Titans in some way. Just doing some theory crafting in my head here.
A super templar
A super templar
A super dwarf.
I wonder... are the titans organic or not?
Could simply be a "huge conglomerate of sentient Stone", rather than a sort of bio-anthropomorphic giant?... and their "hearts" and blood (lyrium) simply an humanization of their structures/components?
And... were they artificially created by something/someone or not?
I wonder... are the titans organic or not?
Could simply be a "huge conglomerate of sentient Stone", rather than a sort of bio-anthropomorphic giant?... and their "hearts" and blood (lyrium) simply an humanization of their structures/components?
And... were they artificially created by something/someone or not?
"The Stone lives beneath Orlais" 
"The Stone lives beneath Orlais"
yes, but what kind of life? Are they sleeping giant, with an heart, blood, maybe brain, which use to "breed" dwarfes and fight against elves... or they are merely a (within some limits, self-aware) immense and misterious "force of nature", anthropomorphized by worshipers and enemies?
Are they something the greek titans, or Gears of War 2 giant worm, or something more like Tolkien's animism (es. mountain Charadras)?
yes, but what kind of life? Are they sleeping giant, with an heart, blood, maybe brain, which use to "breed" dwarfes and fight against elves... or they are merely a (within some limits, self-aware) immense and misterious "force of nature", anthropomorphized by worshipers and enemies?
Are they something the greek titans, or Gears of War 2 giant worm, or something more like Tolkien's animism (es. mountain Charadras)?
Seven times seventy men of stone immense
Rose up from the earth like sleepers waking at the dawn,
Crossing the land with strides immeasurable,
And in the hollows of their footprints
Paradise was stamped, indelible.
Canticle of Exaltations "Portents of the Maker's Return"
@Iakus: Is that a real DA Canticle?
Hmm.. I did believe the Maker could be a Titan after Descent.
And... Korth, the Avvar god is attributed with creating both the Mountains and the dwarves... and his dwelling place is within the earth.
So... the Avvar might be worshipping a Titan... and Korth is both their god AND the Maker.... AND the Stone.
And Solas is SO gunna git his ARSE kicked. *giddy at the possibility*
- Still don't know wtf is the Black City.
- Don't know wtf is the taint.
- The f*** it has anything to do with the Evanuris. If it has anything to do at all...
- Still don't know wtf is an Old God.
- Still don't know how the f*** an "old soul" would end being stuck inside a high dragon.
- Still don't know wtf dragons have got anything to do with Elven lore. Therefore, wtf dragon worship in Old Tevinter has anything to do with them inheriting old Elven lore.
- Still don't know wtf Mythal has got to do with dragons.
- Still don't know wtf is/was Solas' relationship with Mythal in the time of Arlathan.
So, to conclude this post, after three games reading tons of dialog and numerous codexes, I still don't know shite about shite. And this really pisses me off.
It's like BW keeps adding new questions while providing only half-answers to the old ones.
I'm not sure I'd call it 'freed'- that implies they were saved. Tranquil-ish they might have been, but the proto-Dwarves seem to have been symbiots with the Titans, and the suggestions we get in 'Descent' is that the Titans cared for them.
But yes- the Ancient Elves seem to have had a penchant for creating/altering species. Not only the Goddess who made all the monsters, but Dwarves (given dreams), possibly humans (depending on how the 'first' started), possibly Qunari (who seem to have been a 'created' race), and very likely the Darkspawn (a product of the golden city, which may have been a place of elven power).
In regards to the Qunari, from the comments made by Kieran and Corypheus when defeated by a Qunari Inquisitor I got the impression they are the result of Tevinter meddling with dragons. Doesn't Corypheus states the Qunari shouldn't be? That their blood is corrupted? Mind you, they might have an elven origin that later has been modified by the Tevinter magisters into what they are now-a-days.
Yeah, the slave race defeating their creators is cliche, but there is a reason it is so popular 
@Iakus: Is that a real DA Canticle?
It is, the Catacle of Exaltations was in WoT vol 2. Written by Kordillus Drakon based on a vision he had.
That verse was supposed to describe one of the portents of the Maker's return.
"The Stone lives beneath Orlais"
[Tug] was marked casteless, but no other dwarf I found shared the complete shape of it. So I think back to the day we lost him, to try to remember anything. I went through his silks, his weapons, his tools. But there were two things. Not things. Phrases. I had never heard him say the words, but they were important enough for etching and ink. First, on a handle, hidden:
"The Stone lives beneath Orlais."
I've heard this before, but more as a passing phrase than anything true. And I would have smiled sadly and left it not understood, but there was a second phrase, the one I leave out of the telling. I though it a detail that got in the way of the greater story, when I believed I knew what determined such things. Even dwarves I trust are confused by it, as the language is not how it is understood today.
"Mathas gar na fornen pa tot isatunoll."
The literal is nonsense: "I'm sorry sacrifice one at my side death..." The last word is unknown. I have heard the first part from strange places, ending instead in "pa salroka atrast." Which is the slightly less meaningless, "at my side find your way in the dark."
It seems to mean: "I regret the sacrifice of my kin, but it means we will find our way home." Which rings as defense of Orzammar's abandonment of Kal Sharok and perhaps of how Tug acted for you when you both were captured. I find that comforting, but I am sure I am wrong. It is too easy, too simple. Tug was not simple. This is something older. It is a secret, or it is gibberish.
@Iakus: Is that a real DA Canticle?
Hmm.. I did believe the Maker could be a Titan after Descent.
And... Korth, the Avvar god is attributed with creating both the Mountains and the dwarves... and his dwelling place is within the earth.
So... the Avvar might be worshipping a Titan... and Korth is both their god AND the Maker.... AND the Stone.
And Solas is SO gunna git his ARSE kicked. *giddy at the possibility*
The location of the Well of Sorrows
Reminds me of the Wellspring:
It's cloudy/ bright with some foliage. The Wells look like it's underground, at least would be if it's not surround by a lake. Speaking of which where's all that water going to?
Anyways, we also know that Mythal had Temple(s) and followers within the Deeproad and killed a Titan. Perhaps the Well of Sorrows is where that Titan once existed?
If she regretted her actions then "Well of Sorrows" is quite aptly named
Perhaps the Well of Sorrows is where that Titan once existed?
It would certainly explain why there's a tropical forest at a latitude where the rest of the planet is ice and wastelands.
It is said that she made the land "bloom" when she killed the titan, no?
It is said that she made the land "bloom" when she killed the titan, no?
Indeed. At first my idea was: "that's silly, fog and mist occur in many places." But, it makes an awful lot of sense here. Well, at least now we know where that dead titan is now.
I also have the theory that there are either seven titans in total, or there are seven titans left. Apart from the number seven clearly being important in Dragon Age, there's also the line from the chant about seven times seventy men of stone immense. I think the seventy men of stone immense is just a poetic description of how big titans are.
How close is the Temple of Mythal to the area where we meet the Avaar in Jaws of Hakkon?
It's pretty far, but we do know there's a ton of Lyrium in the Frostbacks (the Temple of Sacred Ashes, for instance).
The Evanuris murdered Titans and mined their bodies for their blood. Metal as f
The Evanuris murdered Titans and mined their bodies for their blood. Metal as f
This alone is why I will oppose anything and everything Solas, or any ancient elf, or any modern elf wanting to return to their ancient origin ever does.
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