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#51
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I definitely got the impression Dorian would be a major player in the next game, and Maevaris would be a companion, and that sounds awesome.

 

 

-Arlathan region very possible but will wait and see.

I think it's in the fade, like the Library. That would also explain why some people think it must have sank into the earth.


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Itd be interesting to see Calpernia given that she wants tevinter to return to its glory... especially if you chose to side with the mages, therefore never encountering her. It's at least mentioned somewhere if choosing Templars that Samson failed and now that Corypheus needs Calperniia to step up. 



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Calpernia returns (in a better mood if inqui let her go free to face her former master) and supporting the protagonist this time (i hope)

New protag being discovered by Dorian and quietly being sponsored by the inquisitor

My main protags are elvhen, but I want to hear Tevene being used in the next game instead (pleasepleasepleaseprettypleaseeee?? *bats eye lashes*) hearing Calpernia swear that time sounds fun :D

Perhaps seeing Dorian uses his 'telephone' making conversation with the inquisitor :D

Maybe we get to see a new class: Mage hunter (or was that mage killer? Based on calpernia's short story)
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Fenris? Allying with an ancient super-mage? Really?

Ah yeah.  Good point.  But a super-mage who went to obscene lengths to free slaves.  I'd think Fenris might respect that.



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Tevinter as the central focus of the story, but also it'd great to see Seheron and the capital cities of Antiva and Nevarra

 

 

And Solas as the main antagonist, but we shall have the chance the redeem him in the end. Or maybe one other major antagonist would be fun too, like Elgar'nan or some other Evanuris that Solas frees when his plan goes wrong again


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And Solas as the main antagonist, but we shall have the chance the redeem him in the end. Or maybe one other major antagonist would be fun too, like Elgar'nan or some other Evanuris that Solas frees when his plan goes wrong again


I find this part funny :D
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Looks like we might see more sentinel elves. Maybe Solas is gathering ancient elves for his cause as well, he did kinda imply it when he spoke with Abelas.



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I am half expecting the new protagonist to be found in mead smelling, dank seaside tavern in Treviso, called the Glowing Hand, where the barkeep, a silver haired elf who looks a lot like Ricardo Montalban, wearing ornately stitched gloves, directs your gaze to a dark candle lit corner table where a wizened woman with a peg leg and bandana slides you a shard of paper that is a map of elvan artifacts that were allegedly meant to 'strengthen the veil', but now appear to be directing energy at some unknown place in The Hundred Pillars, where coincidentally, both the Quanri invasion force and the Tevinter army are headed for a show down.  Just then, a smallish young man with a blank stare and odd gaze, holding a string of finger bones opens the door, turns east and says, "they're coming".   


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May I ask about the possible connections between Solas and Tevinter? Is it because they enslaves the elven people and Solas might want to start a revolt there (or strike there with his army) first?

 

And Leliana did say that "we (they) have what they truly need...", what is that exactly?



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That's pretty much what I'm hoping for in the next game.

Hopefully we'll be able to choose the race again - it's one of the reasons I disliked DA2 the most. If they'll focus more on characters, dialogue and plot, instead of giant maps with no content, they should be able to do some race-specific stuff too. I'd love to play a qunari (tal vashoth or a slave) and have some quests/dialogues become very difficult because of that, or seeing npcs becoming hostile towards us, but not e.g. towards a human character.

I just really hope the devs will look at all the feedback. They should get the best of DA:I's and DA:O's gameplay, a personal story like in DA2 and drop open world/giant maps.

I could see blood magic becoming more important in the next game as well. It is Tevinter after all. Maybe we could even become one and start a conflict with our new companions because of that?



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"A faded letter" in Trespasser says there was an earthquake in Vol Dorma, which is in Tevinter and east of Weisshaupt:

 

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If earthquakes = titans stirring, maybe that's why the Grey Wardens have gone silent. It could tie up the lore about the taint, a blighted titan or the next archdemon.


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Undoubtedly, we will get more revelations on why the Elves are the worst thing ever to happen to Thedas.

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Major Characters:

  • PC - I suspect the PC will be a member of a group that is heavily tied to both the Inquisition (or what's left of it) and Dorian's reform efforts.  Perhaps a former slave, so that they could account for all of the race/class backgrounds without being too divergent.
  • Dorian - I think it's pretty obvious that he's going to be present in some capacity.  I suspect his new role will be too grand to allow him to be a companion (think of Vivienne had there not been a mage rebellion), but I think he'll play a major "advisor/quest giver" role
  • Maevaris - Like Dorian, I think she'll be present in some meaningful way.  She'll either be the role as Dorian (major NPC) or, if one of them is going to be, a companion.  Given how well-liked she is by the dev team, I wouldn't be surprised
  • Harding - I'm feeling pretty confident that she'll show up as a ranged rogue companion.  She's been set up perfectly for it:  her role in the Inquisition is to be the first on the scene in a new location and she's been listed as being groomed by Leliana to take over for her.  Plus, she was very popular in her first appearance.  I'm suspecting that she'll be both a companion and an ungated bisexual romance as well.
  • Sten (now the Arishok) - We know that Sten from DA:O is now the Arishok and if the next game is about a war with the Qunari, I just can't see how he won't be present as a major character (possibly the 'big bad' of that plotline).

 

Sten was never my most favorite DA:O companion, but I liked him and used him in my party very often. It is his emergence as the new Arishok that really makes me want to see him return in DA4. God how I hope that Bioware follows through with that. Surely Mark Hildreth would be open to reprising "Sten" for the next game?

 

I also think that Dorian and Harding are locks for that game, and the inclusion of Maevaris in the closing slides indicates that we will see that character. As for the main character, I just hope that we continue to be offered race options in customization. I like that more than being limited to a single race, but time will tell?


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"A faded letter" in Trespasser says there was an earthquake in Vol Dorma, which is in Tevinter and east of Weisshaupt:
 
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If earthquakes = titans stirring, maybe that's why the Grey Wardens have gone silent. It could tie up the lore about the taint, a blighted titan or the next archdemon.

That reminds me. Solas should be a visitable location in DA4 :)

Seriously though, if Minrathous isn't done better than Val Royaeux I'll be very upset.
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There has to be a boss fight involving the juggernauts. There just has to be.



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That reminds me. Solas should be a visitable location in DA4 :)

Seriously though, if Minrathous isn't done better than Val Royaeux I'll be very upset.

 

I mean, Solas is the first place I'd go to look for Solas.  That's just good old fashioned logic.

 

I'm hoping that they hold off the "Titan" plotline until DA5 - when we make our inevitable visit to the Anderfels, Kal Sharok, and Nevarra.  And we play as a new Warden recruit facing the 6th blight!  Dum, dum, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuum!


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Looking for clues among scraps of paper, pictographs and paintings on walls painted in antiquity, notes from the four corners of the map and beyond, as well as comments made by the likes of Cole, Solas and others, I'm thinking it is a crap shoot where someone or a few people will get close to the story by mere sheer volume of guessing and theories.  As mentioned tongue and cheek in an earlier post, Solas helps you 'enforce and strengthen' the veil with elvan artifacts, but then later states he wants to remove the veil, so is this an inconsistency or something else?  Thing is, with thousands of scraps of paper, artifacts, etc... it could really be any of these.

 

So far we have Elder ones, Forgotten ones, Forbidden ones, The Executors from across the sea, Elvish Gods who may or may not be actual gods, Titans who may or may not be gods but seem to be creators or earth/stone and are powerful giants, no wonder they are tied to 'children of the stone'. (reminds me a bit of Greek mythology) We have the human perspective of Andraste and for as many times as I've heard the chant of light and the name invoked, there hasn't been a great deal of story leading to this thread.  The Quanari, despite being adherent to a pretty radical viewpoint of the Qun, are technically advanced, as they have missile launchers and gunpowder after all.  All of this on one continent, Thedas, and what of the rest of the world?

 

So back to DA4, when I consider all I've just mentioned along with the developer mentioning that DA was about more than just a single person or character and considering the scope thus far and how it seems to be progressing, I suspect that it will be one more element in a much greater and epic story.  DA4 will likely answer some of the questions on the elf history and probably even dwarven ties to their ancient past, but in doing so, end up setting up an even greater aspect of the story.  When we started DAO, everyone thought the blight was the biggest problem facing the world, but that is based on a very limited and narrow view of the world.  People Loithering probably saw the last blight as Armageddon, but stepping back, it was a drop in the bucket to a greater thing.

 

Those folks wanting to see more of a Shepard or Hawk like figure, I say no way, not in a million years, please lets not go down this tired and simplistic one man with his crew saves the universe thing.  I enjoy the fact that not every ending is rosy and sweet and that in epics, it is often the contribution of many who change the course of history, with of course some serious help from heroic figures. 

 

I then chuckle when I think how far the DA franchise can go, ending at DA5 or 8 or 10.  Imagine starting your playthrough back at Highever castle and thinking, only 10000000 more hours to save the world.


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Setting: Tevinter, Free Marches and Weishaupt.

 

Plot: Solas of course, Civil War with the Wardens and Quinarri invasion of Northern Thedas.

 

Characters from who is in, who is out and who is possible: 

 

Solas - In, without a doubt

Dorian - In, going to be in Tevinter, it will have to include him.

Harding - In, probably will be a player character or advisor

Bianca - In, this is just a hunch, I could see her in as the new crafts person or possibly a player character

 

Morrigan - Out, see her story arc done with the fall of Mythal

Iron Bull - Out, Sorry. He is either dead or running around with his chargers don't see developers putting him in

Sera - Out, Fart face is gone though I do see maybe one of her Jenny's coming about next chapter

Cullen, Josephine- Out, doubt they would do same advisers twice

Cole - Out, just don't see him being in there again

Hawke - Out, His story is done he either died in the fade or joined Varric in Kirkwall

Dagna - Out, I think she will be replaced with Bianca

Other Skyhold Characters - Out, very minor to begin with

 

Cassandra, Viviene, Leliana - 1 In 2 Out, I believe the new Divine will have a role to play depending on who you chose others are out and I believe it will only be a cameo

 

Thom Rainer/Blackwall - Possible could see him make a cameo in the Warden civil war

Varric - Possible, could see him as an adviser and finally a romance option

 

Lastly Inquisitor - Out, Sorry, but just don't see it. I can, however, see her/him as a letter on the war table - The Inquisitor is off roaming the world to look for a cure for her arm...

 

NonDAI characters possibly in:

Fenris - He is close to Tevinter so quite a possibility

Sten - Part of Qun so maybe a possible antagonist along with Solas

 

That is how I see it. First post in a long time glad to be back.


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Setting: Tevinter, Free Marches and Weishaupt.

 

Plot: Solas of course, Civil War with the Wardens and Quinarri invasion of Northern Thedas.

 

Characters from who is in, who is out and who is possible: 

 

Solas - In, without a doubt

Dorian - In, going to be in Tevinter, it will have to include him.

Harding - In, probably will be a player character or advisor

Bianca - In, this is just a hunch, I could see her in as the new crafts person or possibly a player character

 

Morrigan - Out, see her story arc done with the fall of Mythal

Iron Bull - Out, Sorry. He is either dead or running around with his chargers don't see developers putting him in

Sera - Out, Fart face is gone though I do see maybe one of her Jenny's coming about next chapter

Cullen, Josephine- Out, doubt they would do same advisers twice

Cole - Out, just don't see him being in there again

Hawke - Out, His story is done he either died in the fade or joined Varric in Kirkwall

Dagna - Out, I think she will be replaced with Bianca

Other Skyhold Characters - Out, very minor to begin with

 

Cassandra, Viviene, Leliana - 1 In 2 Out, I believe the new Divine will have a role to play depending on who you chose others are out and I believe it will only be a cameo

 

Thom Rainer/Blackwall - Possible could see him make a cameo in the Warden civil war

Varric - Possible, could see him as an adviser and finally a romance option

 

Lastly Inquisitor - Out, Sorry, but just don't see it. I can, however, see her/him as a letter on the war table - The Inquisitor is off roaming the world to look for a cure for her arm...

 

NonDAI characters possibly in:

Fenris - He is close to Tevinter so quite a possibility

Sten - Part of Qun so maybe a possible antagonist along with Solas

 

That is how I see it. First post in a long time glad to be back.

 

Seems fairly reasonable, although the basic plot line I think goes beyond just the Tevinter and Qunari war, as after all, Solas wants to 'end this world', which is why I think the Tevinter-Qunari war will be a component of a greater, as of yet revealed plot arc.

 

Solas, Dorian, Harding (a protege of the red haired one, although still young and inexperienced), Bianca, as the only dwarven female we have had was a wishy washy, forgettable minor character in DAA.  I still have this feeling that Sandal still has a role to play somewhere, but probably wishful thinking.

 

Might consider how much time until DA4, as characters like Blackwall are already past their prime, but I rather enjoy the cameo's of past characters, even when making a minor appearance to continue with the whole series being very intertwined.  

 

Sten I believe is now the Arishok, so certainly expect to see him and Fenris, 50/50, but would make some sense, even if I did find him a bit of a drag.  Cameo from Isabela would not surprise me, as after all, she has already had her run in with the Qun and wouldn't expect her to be an NPC.  

 

Please let Hawk retire or perhaps do a spin off game, as I never found the character to be very compelling.  Inky, done.  Most of the others you listed, also done, other than perhaps cameo appearances or tales from afar. 

 

Wardens seem to have some role yet to play, but honestly, there are just so many ways the next installment could go it boggles the mind.  Which I rather enjoy



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On one hand, I found the Inquisitor terribly bland and would really enjoy a strong protagonist like Hawke, but I'd also really like the chance to see some new origins; Tevinter alone offers us a Mage-friendly Human Noble, Dwarves from the local Orzammar embassy, Elf and Qunari Slaves, Antivan Merchants, Tal-Vashoth mercenaries (done right this time!), and all other sorts of fun.

I fully expect a morally grey "reform the Imperium from the top-down" versus "destroy the Imperium with a slave rebellion" plot, ideally with Dorian and Maevaris on one side and Fenris on the other.

More Qunari is always appreciated, though I doubt Bioware can pull off the proper horror of the fighting in Seheron. I'd love to see the Qunari presented in a slightly more sympathetic light, and getting to finally see something of Par Vollen would be a dream come true. Bonus points for delving into their origins (I want to know if they're an artificial race created using dragon blood and elf bodies, damn it!) and redesigning them to be gorgeous (like DA2) instead of hideous (like in Inquisition).

I've got my fingers crossed for more dwarf love, but I get that Bioware hates ever showing them any love. If we're stuck playing a surfacer again, I'm going to strange someone.

I'd kill for a Saarebas companion. I think I'll never get over Ketojan.
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On one hand, I found the Inquisitor terribly bland and would really enjoy a strong protagonist like Hawke, but I'd also really like the chance to see some new origins; Tevinter alone offers us a Mage-friendly Human Noble, Dwarves from the local Orzammar embassy, Elf and Qunari Slaves, Antivan Merchants, Tal-Vashoth mercenaries (done right this time!), and all other sorts of fun.

I fully expect a morally grey "reform the Imperium from the top-down" versus "destroy the Imperium with a slave rebellion" plot, ideally with Dorian and Maevaris on one side and Fenris on the other.

More Qunari is always appreciated, though I doubt Bioware can pull off the proper horror of the fighting in Seheron. I'd love to see the Qunari presented in a slightly more sympathetic light, and getting to finally see something of Par Vollen would be a dream come true. Bonus points for delving into their origins (I want to know if they're an artificial race created using dragon blood and elf bodies, damn it!) and redesigning them to be gorgeous (like DA2) instead of hideous (like in Inquisition).

I've got my fingers crossed for more dwarf love, but I get that Bioware hates ever showing them any love. If we're stuck playing a surfacer again, I'm going to strange someone.

I'd kill for a Saarebas companion. I think I'll never get over Ketojan.

 

This. All of it.

 

Except for the Fenris part. That scrub can stay dead. And no more Deus Ex Machina dammit.



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I fully expect a morally grey "reform the Imperium from the top-down" versus "destroy the Imperium with a slave rebellion" plot, ideally with Dorian and Maevaris on one side and Fenris on the other.

More Qunari is always appreciated, though I doubt Bioware can pull off the proper horror of the fighting in Seheron. I'd love to see the Qunari presented in a slightly more sympathetic light, and getting to finally see something of Par Vollen would be a dream come true. Bonus points for delving into their origins (I want to know if they're an artificial race created using dragon blood and elf bodies, damn it!) and redesigning them to be gorgeous (like DA2) instead of hideous (like in Inquisition).

I've got my fingers crossed for more dwarf love, but I get that Bioware hates ever showing them any love. If we're stuck playing a surfacer again, I'm going to strange someone.

I'd kill for a Saarebas companion. I think I'll never get over Ketojan.

 

Well if they do follow the lore to any degree, you may be in luck.  I recall in the past the Tevinter's once had an alliance with dwarves and supposedly the Tevinters loved "The Provings" and built a Grand Proving in Minrathous.



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For companions i really hope to see

Lace Harding
Maevaris
Marius - magekiller.

For specialisations id like to see

Blood mage - for those who lust for power

A spec that focuses on glyphs and entropy magics

Tempest- for the rogues who want to bring about the storm.

Magekiller- the profession of the character Marius who be in the next comic series by Greg Rucka. He is to be a sort of Boba Fett of Tevinter, and i look forward to seeing what skills they bring to the table.

If these options are available, I've already planned a mage and a dwarf magekiller :D

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If no one has already proposed it I'm gonna say that I think the next player character will be Archon of the Imperium. It would be the best position for a potential reformer to have.

I also think that the Executors and possibly people from the lands north of Par Vollen (the Human and Qunari homelands) will be involved in the plot.

I think this because they will need to expand the size of the known world in DA4 or they won't have any great locations for DA5. If they keep it as is the only locations they'll have to work with are the Anderfels, Rivain, Antiva, Nevarra, or Par Vollen.

I seriously hope they do some cameos of past companions in this game. Ferris especially since the story takes place in Tevinter. Isabella would be nice because of her Qunari involvement. And of couse Oghren and Shale because I love them.

Sten and Dorian are (hopefully) no brainers to appear.

As for companions, my hopes for options are:

* Dwarf from the Ambassadoria or Kal-Sharok
* Any Fex character, any at all
* A Fog Warrior
* A Rivani Seer mage
* Someone with immense knowledge of the Old Gods (priest possibly?)
* Someone from a land we haven't seen yet (West, Kossith homeland), or a land that has barely been discussed (Donarks)
* Just for the hell of it I also hope for a Kossith agent from their homeland trying to deal with the Qunari

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If no one has already proposed it I'm gonna say that I think the next player character will be Archon of the Imperium. It would be the best position for a potential reformer to have.
 

 

I think it's unlikely that BioWare will restrict us to playing a male human mage.