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[Linkenski]

Anyone else think Bioware's attempts at comedy are truly funny?

For more context I just began Trespasser and am trying to force my way through a couple of really dorky reunion scenes

[Dabrikishaw]

Different strokes.

[AresKeith]

Ok?

[Rhidor]

Well, what would the BSN be without people complaining about something.

[berelinde]

Most of the reunion scenes were kinda "expected," but I found several of them genuinely funny. If you spare the Chargers and have every available RP perk (Nobility Knowledge, Arcane Knowledge, History Knowledge, Underworld Knowledge, etc), Iron Bull's reunion scene is priceless. I found the scenes with Sera to be surprisingly touching. Blackwall's was a miss for me, but I was endlessly amused with Cassandra's confusion over Maxwell's "engagement" to Josephine. Varric's scene would have been funnier if I recognized Seneschal Bran, but Vivienne's scene was perfect. Ironically, I've forgotten Cole's scene, but I won't forget Dorian's any time soon. Cullen's was adorable.

 

So, I guess it depends on how closely your sense of humor aligns with the writers'.

[-Severian-]

Honestly, I felt the same way. Felt like they were trying too hard to shoehorn in some Citadel-esque companion stuff, forcing the humour. But y'know... other people enjoyed it so, fair play to them. I went through it fairly quickly and got to the real meat of the DLC, which was worth forcing yourself towards.

[SurelyForth]

I thought all of the jokey stuff, aside from Blackwall, hit the mark. I loved the Chargers and the Sera prank montage, and I thought the scene with Varric and Bran was quite funny, as were the tiny cheese wheels (and Vivienne totally rocking the tiny cheese wheels). Of course, I tend to have a broad sense of humor in general. If you don't care for slapstick or sight gags, I could see how some of them could be tedious. 

[Potato Cat]

Meh, usually when the comedy stems from a character the writers are so obviously trying to make likeable is when I groan and quickly grow to dislike the character. When a character is allowed to be a character, not a caricature, or a cardboard cut out of a 'best friend', is when I laugh my head off. And of course, sometimes awkward animations and choreography can kill an otherwise good scene.

[geckocide]

'Cully and Inky got married! Desks watch out!' Possibly the first gag of Sera's that's made me laugh.

[geckocide]

Meh, usually when the comedy stems from a character the writers are so obviously trying to make likeable is when I groan and quickly grow to dislike the character. When a character is allowed to be a character, not a caricature, or a cardboard cut out of a 'best friend', is when I laugh my head off. And of course, sometimes awkward animations and choreography can kill an otherwise good scene.

 

I feel like this about Sera tbh. I was looking forward to an Artful Dodger Robin-Hood type rogue and it feels like we got a watered-down version straight off of Tumblr.txt, with added toilet humour. Sera Was Never playing every time I walk into the tavern doesn't help either.

[KCMeredith]

I didn't get anything funny/humerous, pretty much the standard "Welcome back how've you been" stuff. So either I completely missed something or all my companions really hate me that much.

[Mr.House]

I saw all of this as just good lighthearted stuff before the meat starts, since the meat is very serious.

[robertthebard]

I didn't get anything funny/humerous, pretty much the standard "Welcome back how've you been" stuff. So either I completely missed something or all my companions really hate me that much.

You did destroy a lot of Kirkwall with your mage war, what did you expect??? /runandhide

[Linkenski]

The music "cue! Comedy" was downright dreadful in Josephine's little date. The humor is so embarrassing, I just kept cringing.

I like the usual stuff where the character banter itself is funny, but I find in general with DAI and also this DLC that whenever Bioware tries to make a thing out of it, it instantly becomes too much, and unfunny in its attempt.

It starts out with a few genuine laughs, then it turns into forced smile and then it turns into cringing. That's when you know it just isn't really funny.

[Linkenski]

I saw all of this as just good lighthearted stuff before the meat starts, since the meat is very serious.

I know it's optional, but how would you feel if Mass Effect 3 started with Shepard and James trying to flirt with women, and Anderson having a bad hair day and then suddenly REAPERS and super serious.

That's called breaking the tone of the narrative. DAI isn't supposed to be a comedy, yet it tenaciously keeps thinking it is, because... Bioware, what happened?

[Mr.House]

I know it's optional, but how would you feel if Mass Effect 3 started with Shepard and James trying to flirt with women, and Anderson having a bad hair day and then suddenly REAPERS and super serious.

That's called breaking the tone of the narrative. DAI isn't supposed to be a comedy, yet it tenaciously keeps thinking it is, because... Bioware, what happened?

Your comparison does not work. The lighthearted stuff is all optional content in a dlc, with only a few bad  cringe parts. That's not the same as having the start of a game being just like it. Also your complaint goes all the way back to DAO with (Swooping is bad everyone?)

[Linkenski]

Yeah alright, but I still don't think optional content should break the overall tone of the narrative just because it's optional. It's fine since there's no immediate threat at the beginning, but did Bioware have to go with this facepalm worthy brand of Citadel-esque comedy that they suck so much at again?

Well okay, I think Citadel DLC IS funny, but only because it felt like a genuine love letter not just to fans but also from Bioware to the cast they'd created and also loved. With DAI it just doesn't work that way IMO, because they force new characters into scenes that are obviously comedic while also trying to build on the characters. It was too soon, ill fitting and I just can't appreciate it. They haven't earned it.

[Toasted Llama]

Your comparison does not work. The lighthearted stuff is all optional content in a dlc, with only a few bad  cringe parts. That's not the same as having the start of a game being just like it. Also your complaint goes all the way back to DAO with (Swooping is bad everyone?)

 

 

Why does everyone find the "Swooping is bad" bit oh-so-hilarious?

 

Or is that one of those cringey parts?

 

It sure as hell made me cringe. And it felt out of place.

 

 

Then again, english isn't my main language so I was probably completely missing "teh joke"

[Mr.House]

Why does everyone find the "Swooping is bad" bit oh-so-hilarious?

 

Or is that one of those cringey parts?

 

It sure as hell made me cringe. And it felt out of place.

 

 

Then again, english isn't my main language so I was probably completely missing "teh joke"

It is cringey, hence why I used that as an example. Yes there are some cringey parts at the start of the dlc with the companions, but there are also alot good ones, both funny and sweet (everything for Cullen was adorable)

[Ariella]

Why does everyone find the "Swooping is bad" bit oh-so-hilarious?
 
Or is that one of those cringey parts?
 
It sure as hell made me cringe. And it felt out of place.
 
 
Then again, english isn't my main language so I was probably completely missing "teh joke"

It probably is a case of idiom and not completely translating.

I noticed a lot of Dave Gaider's humor is similar to Joss Whedon, and Gaider has said the characters of Mal Reynolds and Xander Harris inspired more than a bit of Alistair.

[WildOrchid]

 Mal Reynolds and Xander Harris inspired more than a bit of Alistair.

 

So that's why he was annoying in DAO.... I hated Xander.

 

 

And he's nothing like awesome Mal.

[Linkenski]

Again, I just wanna underscore so you understand exactly what my problem is.

Comedic relief: fine, no matter what genre, setting, story, character, fine!

But scenes in comedy genre inside a medieval adventure plot that supposedly is rather serious. Make up your mind Bioware.

Personally, I'd rather get a proper bonding moment between my inquisitor and his relationship to Josephine than an awkward scene with sitcom music cues (and you can almost hear the can laughter) where it's so funny, oh-hoh-hoh! I mean c'mon. It's distracting and, immersion breaking and makes the entire experience worse for it.

It's with scenes like this I actually relate to those who's started saying "Bioware and their fanfic writers".

[robertthebard]

Again, I just wanna underscore so you understand exactly what my problem is.

Comedic relief: fine, no matter what genre, setting, story, character, fine!

But scenes in comedy genre inside a medieval adventure plot that supposedly is rather serious. Make up your mind Bioware.

Personally, I'd rather get a proper bonding moment between my inquisitor and his relationship to Josephine than an awkward scene with sitcom music cues (and you can almost hear the can laughter) where it's so funny, oh-hoh-hoh! I mean c'mon. It's distracting and, immersion breaking and makes the entire experience worse for it.

It's with scenes like this I actually relate to those who's started saying "Bioware and their fanfic writers".

Actually, BW, please don't make up your mind. The whole point of the Josephine date, since I'd seen you bring that up, was to get away from the serious day to day, there's even a possible remark about how Josie scheduled that time, making it less of a getaway than it was intended to be. You're aggravated by the whole point of the scenario, a chance to step out of the "OMG, the world's going to end, Orlais is going to leash us, Ferelden wants us scattered to the winds" stuff that's fixing to be going on. It was theater, in Orlais, what did you think was going to happen when you agreed to go?

[Ariella]

So that's why he was annoying in DAO.... I hated Xander.
 
 
And he's nothing like awesome Mal.

They talked about getting Nathan Fillion for the role...

And even Shakespeare's tragedies have moments of comedy. You need these things even in the worst moments or you'll lose an audience.

[publius1000]

i actually thought the humor in this dlc was better than the rest of the game. to me, a lot of the humor in the main game felt forced, like "hey, the world's ending and we got this supersrs plot, but we need a funny scene here - let's play wicked grace!, or hey Varric - be funny." just contrast dai varric, who seems sad and tired but still trying to be funny with da2 varric who was actually having fun and surrounded by fun people. but in Trespasser, along with the world having been saved it seemed like the characters could have some fun again, like "haha what are these nobles trying to stop us? gl noobs" the whole Citadel feel helped too... which i guess had the same plot...