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[Lazarillo]

I was in the shower, where these sorts of things seem to happen, and I realized a lot of evidence points to the Taint as being brought to Thedas for the express purpose of destroying the Veil.  Consider the following points:

 

1. Solas created the Veil to trap the Enuvaris.

2. The Veil grows weak in places that see significant death.

3. The Taint is inherently toxic to life.  Some life can carry the taint, but most that are exposed simply die, and even plants and microorganisms cannot grow in Tainted lands (see Ostagar or the Western Approach).

4. The Tevinter old gods call to the Darkspawn through the Taint, despite supposedly being un-Tainted before contact.

5. Though it may have existed before underground, the breach of the Golden City was what, ultimately, caused the Taint to spread across the surface of Thedas.

 

So here's the idea: the Golden City really was a lie.  It was Golden, but that was a trap designed to lure Mages towards it.  Dumat and the other "old gods" of Tevinter carried the voices of the Enuvaris, who goaded the Magisters into springing their trap.  Any human that passed into the Fade physically and back, would allow the Taint, which had been weaponized by the trapped Enuvaris as well as shaped into a method of cross-Veil communication, to reach back across the Veil and create large swatches of absolute death fields all across Thedas.  The deaths would completely break down the Veil, allowing them to re-merge the worlds and gain control once again.

 

This could also explain Solas lack of respect for the Grey Wardens...if the "old gods" are connected to the Darkspawn via the dragons, but aren't the Archdemons themselves, and then there is a massive Darkspawn uprising covering the surface in the Taint, should the Grey Wardens eliminate all the Archdemons, the Enuvaris could return and enslave Thedas.

 

Amusingly, this might also be Solas' ultimate plan as well.  The only reason he hated the Grey Wardens is that he wasn't yet ready for such an event...the current long-term timetable for his actions could be both for the sake of eliminating the Enuvaris ahead of the merge, as well as digging up the final two Archdemons and leading them in a Blight to literally end all Blights...and thus the current world will literally become a land of death, until the barrier is broken and the world can be reborn.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Personally I think the Archdemons are the old gods. The elven ones and the Tevinter ones are the same. They got sealed away by Solas aka Fenharel and have been trying to escape ever since. Now whether or not they knew that such corruption would erupt from luring the magisters to the city is up in the air for me.

Mythal aka Flemeth uses the Rite to preserve the untainted spirit so that the god can be reborn anew. She may even instigate the Blight in the first place.

Mythal is part of the old elven pantheon.
Mythal is Flemeth.
Flemeth can turn into a dragon.
The old Tevinter Gods are dragons.
The old Tevinter gods lured the magisters into the Fade and the taint was the result.
The Archdemon is always a dragon.
The Archdemon has the spirit of an old god.

[Ranadiel Marius]

The problem with the Old Gods being the Evanuris in any shape or form is that our current info is that the Evanuris were the ones who killed Mythal...and Mythal is extremely mad at her betrayer(s), so I don't think she would be saving them like she appears to be doing with the Old God Souls.

[Lazarillo]

The problem with the Old Gods being the Evanuris in any shape or form is that our current info is that the Evanuris were the ones who killed Mythal...and Mythal is extremely mad at her betrayer(s), so I don't think she would be saving them like she appears to be doing with the Old God Souls.

 

That's a good point about the Archdemons.  I don't think it's completely incongruous with my theory, though, if the Evanuris simply lied about being the same as the Tevinter "old gods" to the Magisters.  Corhissyfits' relationship with Dumat is sort of inconsistent, and that might explain it.  In Legacy, he manages to draw on "Dumat's" power, even though Dumat should be destroyed.  Then in Inquisition, he claims that he was led to the Golden City by Dumat at one point, only to curse him with "if you ever truly existed!" before he dies.  It's possible Dumat, the dragon, may have been one thing, and the entity that Corninteyish made contact with was something else entirely (in accordance with my current speculation, one of the Evanuris, specifically).

[Ranadiel Marius]

It's possible Dumat, the dragon, may have been one thing, and the entity that Corninteyish made contact with was something else entirely (in accordance with my current speculation, one of the Evanuris, specifically).

I have long held the belief that the entity that contacted the Sidreal Magisters was not actually the Old Gods. So I could certainly believe that the entity was the Evanuris.

[CameronDAO]

The problem with the Old Gods being the Evanuris in any shape or form is that our current info is that the Evanuris were the ones who killed Mythal...and Mythal is extremely mad at her betrayer(s), so I don't think she would be saving them like she appears to be doing with the Old God Souls.

While I agree with this, I think that it is possible that the Old Gods are the Evanuris. The Evanuris are supposedly immortal, much like how the Archdemons were viewed. Even Corypheus is deemed immortal, but there are ways to kill them. The Archdemons require a Warden, Corypheus was the Inquisitor, and I'm sure there is a way to kill the Evanuris. Flemeth/Mythal is a trick-sie minx, and has all the time in the world to wait for the perfect time to destroy those who betrayed her. Even going so far as to seem like she is trying to help them come back. 

 

It's no fun if she can't physically get her hands on them. So, she waits patiently; modifying history to her 'home field' advantage 

 

Just my two coppers

[Ranadiel Marius]

While I agree with this, I think that it is possible that the Old Gods are the Evanuris. The Evanuris are supposedly immortal, much like how the Archdemons were viewed. Even Corypheus is deemed immortal, but there are ways to kill them. The Archdemons require a Warden, Corypheus was the Inquisitor, and I'm sure there is a way to kill the Evanuris. Flemeth/Mythal is a trick-sie minx, and has all the time in the world to wait for the perfect time to destroy those who betrayed her. Even going so far as to seem like she is trying to help them come back.

It's no fun if she can't physically get her hands on them. So, she waits patiently; modifying history to her 'home field' advantage

Just my two coppers

But then wouldn't Solas be pro-killing the Old Gods rather than anti killing them. Removing their immortality seems like it would benefit him if he ever needs to fight them again...plus revenge.