Sounds like you listened to the Laidlaw interview. The first 3-4 minutes is very indicative of the DA franchise. Also he mentioned how in like ME, how some thought lines were worn to death and played out and it seems they don't want to go down this type of road with DA.
You know I was actually planning on watching...er listening to that, but I guess I got distracted by something because I don't remember actually listening to it. Merely a coincidence I guess.
Well..let's just hope that we are not raising our hope too much about this whole Solas thing, the importance they are giving to it in future games and how they are going to settle thing with him.
Do you remember after DA:O the fuss around the Old God Baby? Yes it was an optional choice but I remember the hype that it generated in these boards, with people speculating about the huge impact that it could have in following games, and how it had to be the ultimate evil. There was people who thought that it had to be so important that they were making it canon. Everybody knows how the whole story arc ended: 5 minutes cutscene in the 3rd game, with the HoF who wasn't even present.
The same things happened after the end of DA2 about the mages/templars war, the "conflict who were going to shaken the world and change it forever". IN DA:I We endend it in the first big area of the game, and Hawke wasn't even there.
Would you really REALLY bet we won't see something similar again?
Well..let's just hope that we are not raising our hope too much about this whole Solas thing, the importance they are giving to it in future games and how they are going to settle thing with him.
Do you remember after DA:O the fuss around the Old God Baby? Yes it was an optional choice but I remember the hype that it generated in these boards, with people speculating about the huge impact that it could have in following games, and how it had to be the ultimate evil. There was people who thought that it had to be so important that they were making it canon. Everybody knows how the whole story arc ended: 5 minutes cutscene in the 3rd game, with the HoF who wasn't even present.
The same things happened after the end of DA2 about the mages/templars war, the "conflict who were going to shaken the world and change it forever". IN DA:I We endend it in the first big area of the game, and Hawke wasn't even there.
Would you really REALLY bet we won't see something similar again?
The OGB is different because people were speculating, there was really no indication whatsoever that it would be a monumental factor in the latter games. Solas on the other hand seems to have been built up since DAO, which is some masterful writing I must say. You must also factor in that Weekes said in a tweet that they will give closure to Solas' story should they do another game. Solas' motives are unmistakable, there is no speculation. He's essentially trying to destroy the world so that he can undo the damage he originally did. And as many pointed out in the thread, the inquisition was founded to go after the person responsible for the breach. That person is Solas. Corypheus was merely a sideshow to the real threat.
I'd honestly like a choice next game, as difficult as that sounds. Like Awakening, you could choose between your old Warden and a new one if your previous Warden ate it.
Its just a matter of making the different parts work together.
1) You have to have an intro-area, almost exactly like Origins had. Each character would need to have that introduction. If its divided just by race, thats Qunari, Dwarf, Elf, Human, and then an intro for the Inquisitor (Maybe 2, 1 for disbanded Inquisition and 1 for a maintained presence.). Thats 5 different "origins" for the game; Not too difficult. Or, it could just be TWO Intros: One for Inquisitor characters, and one for non-inquisitors.
2) You have to have different dialogue for the characters who know the Inquisitor. Thats not too hard, because they already do that for scenes depending on your race or loyalty levels, etc. The only characters from Inquisition I could see you interacting with would be: Cassandra, Dorian, SOLAS, Harding, possibly Iron Bull depending on your choices with him. Vivienne would not be in Tevinter, Sera would not be, Cole would probably not be (and 50% may not even be in Thedas), Varric is busy with Kirkwall,
3) People will try to point out that if you kept the Inquisition it would make you too OP: but thats not true. The Inquisition has NO holdings, NO political clout, NO power in Tevinter. You're missing an arm. BAM. There's the origin story for Inquisitor in DA4: You arrive in Tevinter, meet with Dorian, and get hooked up with a new arm. PCHHOOO. You're in business, but you haven't been fighting for yourself for one, two, maybe three years! Ergo you need to get back in practice, build your muscle mass up, get your GAINS going. So you're a low level.
Blah blah blah anyways yes I sort of agree/disagree, I think we can both do a new protag and our old one.
I find the idea of playing with the inquisitor as the protagonist for a new DA game utterly stupid. From all three DA games, the Inquisitor was the weakest, most boring, uninteresting, bland one of them all. On top of that, he/she is now crippled (and no, I don't find the idea of a protagonist with a crossbow, staff or sword attached to his/her arm appealing in any way).
Bioware screwed up with this cliffhanger of Solas looking like the big bad wolf for the next game instead of resolving the conflict once and for all. This, inevitably, will make some players (hopefully only very few, even if they are very vocal about it) wanting to have the inquisitor as the protagonist instead of a newbie. I got that feeling all throughout DAI but with Hawke in my mind instead, so I can't blame them. Every time, the inquisitor made a ridiculous question, I thought, seriously? My Warden or my Hawke wouldn't have never asked something so basic. Throughout the entire DAI I felt like this totally boring guy was stealing my Hawke movie just because he/she had a freaking glowing hand.
IMHO, Bioware can bring a new DA game but 100 or 250 years into the future. New protagonist, new companions, same world. Then, they can wake up Solas if they want or bring back Flemethal or whatever they want to add into the game.
I find the idea of playing with the inquisitor as the protagonist for a new DA game utterly stupid. From all three DA games, the Inquisitor was the weakest, most boring, uninteresting, bland one of them all. On top of that, he/she is now crippled (and no, I don't find the idea of a protagonist with a crossbow, staff or sword attached to his/her arm appealing in any way).
Bioware screwed up with this cliffhanger of Solas looking like the big bad wolf for the next game instead of resolving the conflict once and for all. This, inevitably, will make some players (hopefully only very few, even if they are very vocal about it) wanting to have the inquisitor as the protagonist instead of a newbie. I got that feeling all throughout DAI but with Hawke in my mind instead, so I can't blame them. Every time, the inquisitor made a ridiculous question, I thought, seriously? My Warden or my Hawke wouldn't have never asked something so basic. Throughout the entire DAI I felt like this totally boring guy was stealing my Hawke movie just because he/she had a freaking glowing hand.
IMHO, Bioware can bring a new DA game but 100 or 250 years into the future. New protagonist, new companions, same world. Then, they can wake up Solas if they want or bring back Flemethal or whatever they want to add into the game.
If you found the inquisitor boring, then you have no one to blame but yourself. This is the first character Bioware has given us that is 100% a blank slate. We develop their personality, beliefs, and morality. There are more than enough dialogue choices and racial/class permutations to establish a unique character. I hope they continue this trend in future games.
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*Cries* I replied to each and every one of these and then my internet decided to stop working so I’m going to try to recapture this. If any of this seems flippant, rude or just dismissive I apologize I’m just trying to get this out again.
1. If you mean Solas, I think that’s a given. If you mean the Inquisitor than I agree it implies that they aren’t done, however, that doesn’t mean that the Inquisitor is going to play a controllable player role. The DLC doesn’t imply that only that they’ll play some role in the future of finding Solas.
2. Sure, but Hawke survives their game as well and most of us didn’t think Hawke would return. The Inquisition storyline didn’t significantly suffer by having a new protagonist. The Inquisitor could even die in the next game or have a chance to, we don’t really know so I’m not sure how the survivability has a role to play. If I’m wrong there though or not getting that let me know though because I’m interested what you mean. Also I think those complaints would happen no matter what, for any protagonist even Hawke.
¾. I’ll answer these two together since they’re related. I’d argue that they also meant the Inquisitor, not just Cassandra, Bull and the others. I mean the reason they need to find new people (not only because they run out of companions and agents) is because Solas knows how ALL of the people act especially, though this may be a stretch, the Inquisitor. They’re also very recognizable now, but I’ll get into that later. The point I’m trying to make though is that the line could have just as easily included the Inquisitor especially given that we have new protagonists each game. As for the save the world comment. Sure, I fully expect a role for the Inquisitor, I’d honestly be a little disappointed if they didn’t, but I’m not sure that means. “I’m going to Tevinter to adventure and solve all of its problems on my way to finding Solas and fight in the field!” I mean Josephine, Cullen and Leliana saved the world with us and for the most part they never left the War Room I think the same can apply and the sentence would be no less valid.
5. I agree that it’s not as big an issue, especially given the Iron Bull point, however none of the information we’ve received has told us that the Inquisitor’s arm would be a fully functional articulated hand that could handle all the different fighting styles. It’d be interesting, no doubt, but if they couldn’t even make a hand that could handle pulling a trigger on a crossbow idk how it’s going handle dual wielding, holding a shield or maul. Again this is something I think could be easily fixed with a quick retcon. On the other hand, the prosthetic makes the Inquisitor a lot more noticeable, specifically to Solas’ elven spies, which could include thousands of elves in the Imperium. That’s my biggest issue with a prosthetic, not some much whether we’d be able to be able to fight as well (even if the amount of text might point otherwise lol).
6. Well I think it’s fair to point out that we don’t know how central our actual search for Solas will be. We could be focused on the slave rebellion, Tevinter/Qunari War and the Grey Warden Civil War while the Solas plot is the overarching story that drives us forward. I’m not explaining this as well as I think I should, but what I mean is that closure doesn’t equal playable character. If the Inquisitor is a major NPC, mentor, boss, etc they can still be heavily involved in THAT plot without being the grunt who actually tracks Solas down. As for said grunt, we have an entire game to develop (or not) a relationship with Solas, if we were the Inquisitor we’d just be developing that relationship further or changing that relationship. An example I’ve put forward which despite being dismissed I think sums this up is that while Obi Wan had the bigger more substantial relationship with Vader than Luke did Luke still is able to develop a relationship with Vader. I have more I want to say about this, but I’ll leave it be for now.
7. Absolutely, but it could also set up the next game as well. We could find the true source of the Blight or Demons in general. I don’t think anything says that they can’t choose to break the rule. I think what I’m arguing is that it’s not a necessity for there to be a good story or that it’d be bad writing if the Inquisitor showed up only a few times.
8. I’d like to argue that every game does this. That’s sort of the hero’s journey. Shepard does this three games in a row despite being super space bad ass. The level of zero though just resets itself higher and higher each time. I mean is anyone going to give up on games after this because you’re playing a new character in a new setting, I don’t think so. It’s a little unreasonable. For the Inquisitor though, they’re going to be starting back at step one regardless. We’ll be getting used to a prosthetic fighting style, we won’t have the mark and the powers or influence that garnered us and the Inquisitor doesn’t have any significant knowledge of or powerbase in Tevinter. That’s a significant reset. Not to mention the disadvantages of having the Inquisitor rather than a new PC such as new romances, a clean slate in regards to the Qunari, Grey Wardens and Non-Mage v Mage issue. As for the arc though I need to really stress that you can have the Inquisitor be involved without playing a role in the rest of the game or even just playing a smaller role than they did before.
9. Yeah, but the opposite could be said as well. Also I don’t think they go THAT far into detail with their games unless it’s absolutely necessary. Plus you could argue that since their Madden games have different stars each year they understand the benefit of having someone different each game.
If you found the inquisitor boring, then you have no one to blame but yourself. This is the first character Bioware has given us that is 100% a blank slate. We develop their personality, beliefs, and morality. There are more than enough dialogue choices and racial/class permutations to establish a unique character. I hope they continue this trend in future games.
No. You maybe just headcanon some imaginary personality but the Inquisitor was, per se, the most boring protagonist of all Bioware franchises and it would be atrocious to impose such a horrid protagonist in future DA instalment.
I find the idea of playing with the inquisitor as the protagonist for a new DA game utterly stupid. From all three DA games, the Inquisitor was the weakest, most boring, uninteresting, bland one of them all. On top of that, he/she is now crippled (and no, I don't find the idea of a protagonist with a crossbow, staff or sword attached to his/her arm appealing in any way).
Bioware screwed up with this cliffhanger of Solas looking like the big bad wolf for the next game instead of resolving the conflict once and for all. This, inevitably, will make some players (hopefully only very few, even if they are very vocal about it) wanting to have the inquisitor as the protagonist instead of a newbie. I got that feeling all throughout DAI but with Hawke in my mind instead, so I can't blame them. Every time, the inquisitor made a ridiculous question, I thought, seriously? My Warden or my Hawke wouldn't have never asked something so basic. Throughout the entire DAI I felt like this totally boring guy was stealing my Hawke movie just because he/she had a freaking glowing hand.
IMHO, Bioware can bring a new DA game but 100 or 250 years into the future. New protagonist, new companions, same world. Then, they can wake up Solas if they want or bring back Flemethal or whatever they want to add into the game.
The problem with skipping massive amounts of time like that is we wouldn't be in the "Dragon age" anymore. It sort of wouldn't make all that much sense, then. They have tied themselves in knots with this. If the Inquisitor's story with Solas had finished (which many people feel it has not, given the ending of Trespasser) the a new protag would be fine. Also, as stated before, people want the Inquisitor to end Solas's story, not necessarily to be the protag of any future game. This is a massive loose end with a personal connection made between player (through the Inquisitor) and Solas. Just as there was a big disconnect with Morrigan and Alistair and other favourites, the COULD be one with Solas. That is the worry.
No. You maybe just headcanon some imaginary personality but the Inquisitor was, per se, the most boring protagonist of all Bioware franchises and it would be atrocious to impose such a horrid protagonist in future DA instalment.
No, I don't headcanon. The massive amounts of dialogue options are there. You may need to repair your game friend.
No, I don't headcanon. The massive amounts of dialogue options are there. You may need to repair your game friend.
No. Bioware needs to repair their half cooked game. Massive dialogue doesn't equal developing personality.
*Cries* I replied to each and every one of these and then my internet decided to stop working so I’m going to try to recapture this. If any of this seems flippant, rude or just dismissive I apologize I’m just trying to get this out again.
1. If you mean Solas, I think that’s a given. If you mean the Inquisitor than I agree it implies that they aren’t done, however, that doesn’t mean that the Inquisitor is going to play a controllable player role. The DLC doesn’t imply that only that they’ll play some role in the future of finding Solas.
2. Sure, but Hawke survives their game as well and most of us didn’t think Hawke would return. The Inquisition storyline didn’t significantly suffer by having a new protagonist. The Inquisitor could even die in the next game or have a chance to, we don’t really know so I’m not sure how the survivability has a role to play. If I’m wrong there though or not getting that let me know though because I’m interested what you mean. Also I think those complaints would happen no matter what, for any protagonist even Hawke.
¾. I’ll answer these two together since they’re related. I’d argue that they also meant the Inquisitor, not just Cassandra, Bull and the others. I mean the reason they need to find new people (not only because they run out of companions and agents) is because Solas knows how ALL of the people act especially, though this may be a stretch, the Inquisitor. They’re also very recognizable now, but I’ll get into that later. The point I’m trying to make though is that the line could have just as easily included the Inquisitor especially given that we have new protagonists each game. As for the save the world comment. Sure, I fully expect a role for the Inquisitor, I’d honestly be a little disappointed if they didn’t, but I’m not sure that means. “I’m going to Tevinter to adventure and solve all of its problems on my way to finding Solas and fight in the field!” I mean Josephine, Cullen and Leliana saved the world with us and for the most part they never left the War Room I think the same can apply and the sentence would be no less valid.
5. I agree that it’s not as big an issue, especially given the Iron Bull point, however none of the information we’ve received has told us that the Inquisitor’s arm would be a fully functional articulated hand that could handle all the different fighting styles. It’d be interesting, no doubt, but if they couldn’t even make a hand that could handle pulling a trigger on a crossbow idk how it’s going handle dual wielding, holding a shield or maul. Again this is something I think could be easily fixed with a quick retcon. On the other hand, the prosthetic makes the Inquisitor a lot more noticeable, specifically to Solas’ elven spies, which could include thousands of elves in the Imperium. That’s my biggest issue with a prosthetic, not some much whether we’d be able to be able to fight as well (even if the amount of text might point otherwise lol).
6. Well I think it’s fair to point out that we don’t know how central our actual search for Solas will be. We could be focused on the slave rebellion, Tevinter/Qunari War and the Grey Warden Civil War while the Solas plot is the overarching story that drives us forward. I’m not explaining this as well as I think I should, but what I mean is that closure doesn’t equal playable character. If the Inquisitor is a major NPC, mentor, boss, etc they can still be heavily involved in THAT plot without being the grunt who actually tracks Solas down. As for said grunt, we have an entire game to develop (or not) a relationship with Solas, if we were the Inquisitor we’d just be developing that relationship further or changing that relationship. An example I’ve put forward which despite being dismissed I think sums this up is that while Obi Wan had the bigger more substantial relationship with Vader than Luke did Luke still is able to develop a relationship with Vader. I have more I want to say about this, but I’ll leave it be for now.
7. Absolutely, but it could also set up the next game as well. We could find the true source of the Blight or Demons in general. I don’t think anything says that they can’t choose to break the rule. I think what I’m arguing is that it’s not a necessity for there to be a good story or that it’d be bad writing if the Inquisitor showed up only a few times.
8. I’d like to argue that every game does this. That’s sort of the hero’s journey. Shepard does this three games in a row despite being super space bad ass. The level of zero though just resets itself higher and higher each time. I mean is anyone going to give up on games after this because you’re playing a new character in a new setting, I don’t think so. It’s a little unreasonable. For the Inquisitor though, they’re going to be starting back at step one regardless. We’ll be getting used to a prosthetic fighting style, we won’t have the mark and the powers or influence that garnered us and the Inquisitor doesn’t have any significant knowledge of or powerbase in Tevinter. That’s a significant reset. Not to mention the disadvantages of having the Inquisitor rather than a new PC such as new romances, a clean slate in regards to the Qunari, Grey Wardens and Non-Mage v Mage issue. As for the arc though I need to really stress that you can have the Inquisitor be involved without playing a role in the rest of the game or even just playing a smaller role than they did before.
9. Yeah, but the opposite could be said as well. Also I don’t think they go THAT far into detail with their games unless it’s absolutely necessary. Plus you could argue that since their Madden games have different stars each year they understand the benefit of having someone different each game.
I'm too tired to respond point for point but I'll address a couple things. You're correct in stating the inquisitor can play a major role in the next game, while still being an npc. I just feel as if it would still be wasted story potential to have a new protagonist learn about Solas and try to stop him rather than someone who used to be their friend. You used Star Wars as an example, so I'll follow up with my own: The story of Obi Wan fighting Anakin in EP III was more powerful because of the history between them. If it had been random Jedi number 392 it wouldn't have had that emotional impact. That's just rich storytelling that Bioware would be able to tap into if they keep the inquisitor as the protagonist. Especially so for those female elves who romanced him, imagine the tragic story they could tell especially if it ends in you killing him.
The Luke analogy doesn't quite work, because his connection to Vader is familial.
As far as the hand is concerned, I'm sure Dagna can craft some sort of dwarven prosthetic that allows you to regain more usefulness from your left hand. But like I said, whatever they may choose to do this is a goldmine for new gameplay. Lets also look at the classes that may be affected by it. Sword/Shield won't be, just attach the shield to the arm. Mages are fine as they don't need staffs to cast magic. The bowman can use the arm crossbow as shown in the epilogue. Dual wielding and two handed are the only two that would have to be scrapped if they don't give you some magical hand replacement. But that's for them to decide how to go forth with that, all I know is that it opens up a lot of potential for some new changes.
I agree on point 6, I doubt the Solas plot will be in your face. It will no doubt be behind the scene maneuvering with political and cultural struggles used as a cover. Just look at how his story was revealed in Trespasser. You initially thought it was a simple Qunari invasion, only to find out this has to do with Solas.
Shepard actually was never at zero, he was hero all the way. That's one of the things Bioware pledged to do different with Andromedas protagonist. They will build up their reputation over the course of the new games rather than already being known as a badass.
Madden is different because each title player isn't tied directly to their "story". If DA4 is the last game, it'd be better to finish up the inquisitor's story there and then be done with the franchise rather than shoehorn random savior #4940e0 because it's his turn. Again, the epilogue heavily implies this will be the case. DA is also under the helm of a new head writer, so Weeke's vision may be a bit different from Gaider's.
No. Bioware needs to repair their half cooked game. Massive dialogue doesn't equal developing personality.
Yes it does when the dialogue options are wildly variable and convey different emotions and perspectives. Are we even playing the same game?
You know I was actually planning on watching...er listening to that, but I guess I got distracted by something because I don't remember actually listening to it. Merely a coincidence I guess.
I rather enjoyed all the DA series, yet for somewhat different reasons for each, but I always thought the brilliance of the franchise was the whole focus on Thedas instead of a single character. This has been done to death, and we see it from Witcher series, ME series, among others, and while I can certainly understand the appeal, hence why so many games copy this direction, the focus on the world just opens up limitless possibilities on direction.
As Laidlaw pointed out, writers change, not every employee sticks around for 5, 8, 10 years to work on a single series and it can become difficult to write new content for a specific pigeon holed character, as eventually they 'been there done that'.
I'm too tired to respond point for point but I'll address a couple things. You're correct in stating the inquisitor can play a major role in the next game, while still being an npc. I just feel as if it would still be wasted story potential to have a new protagonist learn about Solas and try to stop him rather than someone who used to be their friend. You used Star Wars as an example, so I'll follow up with my own: The story of Obi Wan fighting Anakin in EP III was more powerful because of the history between them. If it had been random Jedi number 392 it wouldn't have had that emotional impact. That's just rich storytelling that Bioware would be able to tap into if they keep the inquisitor as the protagonist. Especially so for those female elves who romanced him, imagine the tragic story they could tell especially if it ends in you killing him.
The Luke analogy doesn't quite work, because his connection to Vader is familial.
This. This example absolutely nails what I have been saying. That duel was nothing short of glorious, due in no small part to their relationship with each other. Every aspect of that Duel was assembled and designed with this at the forefront of their minds. You wouldn't believe the amount of time they spent on that ONE duel. Just to get this feeling across to the audience. Neither of them wanted that fight, the whole duel they were hating it.
The problem with skipping massive amounts of time like that is we wouldn't be in the "Dragon age" anymore. It sort of wouldn't make all that much sense, then. They have tied themselves in knots with this. If the Inquisitor's story with Solas had finished (which many people feel it has not, given the ending of Trespasser) the a new protag would be fine. Also, as stated before, people want the Inquisitor to end Solas's story, not necessarily to be the protag of any future game. This is a massive loose end with a personal connection made between player (through the Inquisitor) and Solas. Just as there was a big disconnect with Morrigan and Alistair and other favourites, the COULD be one with Solas. That is the worry.
Skipping a huge amount of time would be a bad idea. It reminds me of the Fable franchise. They skipped a couple hundred years between 2 and 3 and ended up in a steampunk-like environment. Where would they do from there? Do magic heroes and hobbs belong in the industrial revolution? Really? However, a prequel would work when the Solas arc is finished--hundreds or thousands of years back.
I might be done with Bioware if they don't let my Lavellan resolve the situation with Solas. If they had no intention of having the Inquisitor as at least a part-time protagonist in DA4 then they should have had Solas COMPLETELY cut off his relationship with friendly or romanced Inquisitors and go full on evil death lord. A new protagonist wouldn't likely have reason to see Solas as morally grey from their own knowledge/experience. As players we would have knowledge of Solas that the new player character would not. That is utterly horrible for role-playing. If I play a new character I don't want to feel stuck trying to engineer a happy ending for my Inquisitor.
No. Bioware needs to repair their half cooked game. Massive dialogue doesn't equal developing personality.
I hear you, but since i left Dragon Age after BioWare and the fans Blood Sacrifice DA2.
Let them have the game they want from here on now, if there will be a DA4 that is.
We know Blood Magic has price.
Yes it does when the dialogue options are wildly variable and convey different emotions and perspectives. Are we even playing the same game?
No. I think you played a different game that, for sure, it wasn't DAI.
Skipping a huge amount of time would be a bad idea. It reminds me of the Fable franchise. They skipped a couple hundred years between 2 and 3 and ended up in a steampunk-like environment. Where would they do from there? Do magic heroes and hobbs belong in the industrial revolution? Really? However, a prequel would work when the Solas arc is finished--hundreds or thousands of years back.
I might be done with Bioware if they don't let my Lavellan resolve the situation with Solas. If they had no intention of having the Inquisitor as at least a part-time protagonist in DA4 then they should have had Solas COMPLETELY cut off his relationship with friendly or romanced Inquisitors and go full on evil death lord. A new protagonist wouldn't likely have reason to see Solas as morally grey from their own knowledge/experience. As players we would have knowledge of Solas that the new player character would not. That is utterly horrible for role-playing. If I play a new character I don't want to feel stuck trying to engineer a happy ending for my Inquisitor.
To be honest, more people would probably be annoyed if he did suddenly become Corypheus 2.0. Even without evil intention, what he wants to do is terrible and anyone with good sense would want to stop him. So it CAN work, but then it will take away from those of us who have played it and have more of a reason to care about Solas as a character, and not an antagonist. He's personable to us through the Inquisitor, we have a reason to want to stop him, for the world, but also for the person we believe he is. "we'll save out friend from himself". The Inquisitor either wants to help him because of friendship (or romance) or stab him in the face for using them as pawns in a game. While a new character can easily take the Inquisitor's place and deal with Solas, it will not be as engaging or empathetic as it could be.
No. I think you played a different game that, for sure, it wasn't DAI.
I'm too tired to respond point for point but I'll address a couple things. You're correct in stating the inquisitor can play a major role in the next game, while still being an npc. I just feel as if it would still be wasted story potential to have a new protagonist learn about Solas and try to stop him rather than someone who used to be their friend. You used Star Wars as an example, so I'll follow up with my own: The story of Obi Wan fighting Anakin in EP III was more powerful because of the history between them. If it had been random Jedi number 392 it wouldn't have had that emotional impact. That's just rich storytelling that Bioware would be able to tap into if they keep the inquisitor as the protagonist. Especially so for those female elves who romanced him, imagine the tragic story they could tell especially if it ends in you killing him.
The Luke analogy doesn't quite work, because his connection to Vader is familial.
As far as the hand is concerned, I'm sure Dagna can craft some sort of dwarven prosthetic that allows you to regain more usefulness from your left hand. But like I said, whatever they may choose to do this is a goldmine for new gameplay. Lets also look at the classes that may be affected by it. Sword/Shield won't be, just attach the shield to the arm. Mages are fine as they don't need staffs to cast magic. The bowman can use the arm crossbow as shown in the epilogue. Dual wielding and two handed are the only two that would have to be scrapped if they don't give you some magical hand replacement. But that's for them to decide how to go forth with that, all I know is that it opens up a lot of potential for some new changes.
I agree on point 6, I doubt the Solas plot will be in your face. It will no doubt be behind the scene maneuvering with political and cultural struggles used as a cover. Just look at how his story was revealed in Trespasser. You initially thought it was a simple Qunari invasion, only to find out this has to do with Solas.
Shepard actually was never at zero, he was hero all the way. That's one of the things Bioware pledged to do different with Andromedas protagonist. They will build up their reputation over the course of the new games rather than already being known as a badass.
Madden is different because each title player isn't tied directly to their "story". If DA4 is the last game, it'd be better to finish up the inquisitor's story there and then be done with the franchise rather than shoehorn random savior #4940e0 because it's his turn. Again, the epilogue heavily implies this will be the case. DA is also under the helm of a new head writer, so Weeke's vision may be a bit different from Gaider's.
Yes it does when the dialogue options are wildly variable and convey different emotions and perspectives. Are we even playing the same game?
I was actually agreeing that the hand thing at least on a physical standpoint was the easiest thing to explain away, it's just a magic hand retcon if anything. Lol I just sort of started posting my inner thoughts on the subject. My biggest thing is that the Inquisitor is still a big name, recognizable face or hand in this case. If they cover it up then they sort of make it pointless to lose it. Again, more to say, but I want to avoid word vomit.
True, but it's only random Jedi 897 or in our case random hero 728 if the story is completed by them very early on and with absolutely no input by the Inquisitor. Is Obi Wan's story any less complete because Luke stopped Vader? Not really. I mean Luke is familial in terms of blood bonds, but Obi Wan RAISED Anakin, Anakin saw him as a father and then a brother. Besides Padme, Obi Wan was the closest relationship Anakin had after he left Tatooine. We had that big confrontation for the Inquisitor and Solas, anything else at this point is gravy. It certainly requires a connection, but again what if the Inquisitor grooms this hero or Solas develops their own relationship with the new protagonist? It might be even MORE interesting to have both there with Solas, who was a clear ally to the Inquisitor (in some playthroughs), but might have killed the new hero's entire family or plans to sacrifice the hero because they're the descendant of some great Evanuris. I'm just spit balling, but you get what I mean. Regardless of who is going to pop up they're going to have a relationship with Solas from a simple story point.
What I mean with Shepard though is that he starts off fresh regardless of the game. He's never an untrained combat guy, but he starts off with nothing all the time. He has to start back from the beginning all the time and build up a new team or trust with the council or his assets, etc.
And for the Madden thing I was just driving home why I doubt EA cares about who's protagonist. I also think it doesn't matter who is Lead Writer since Mike Laidlaw is Creative Director and they sort of follow his vision (and will have to follow the framework he, Mark Darrah and other developers have built up since before Origins)
This. This example absolutely nails what I have been saying. That duel was nothing short of glorious, due in no small part to their relationship with each other. Every aspect of that Duel was assembled and designed with this at the forefront of their minds. You wouldn't believe the amount of time they spent on that ONE duel. Just to get this feeling across to the audience. Neither of them wanted that fight, the whole duel they were hating it.
The question though is do you think they couldn't or rather that movies have never been able to do that in one offs before? You can still get that across despite having introduced new characters.
The question though is do you think they couldn't or rather that movies have never been able to do that in one offs before? You can still get that across despite having introduced new characters.
You can, but it also comes with it's own set of challanges, and is harder to pull off in many ways. Why keep walking through this revolving door of characters when half the work is already done for them?
You can, but it also comes with it's own set of challanges, and is harder to pull off in many ways. Why keep walking through this revolving door of characters when half the work is already done for them?
A clean slate. I mean regardless of how big a role Solas plays in this game the main character has to deal with everything else that's going on. It's going to be much harder to have the Inquisitor deal with Qunari he or she was previously in conflict with or elves that already know that you;re trying to stop the return of their immortality. I think my point is that our Inquisitor's have put forth very serious opinions.
Skipping a huge amount of time would be a bad idea. It reminds me of the Fable franchise. They skipped a couple hundred years between 2 and 3 and ended up in a steampunk-like environment. Where would they do from there? Do magic heroes and hobbs belong in the industrial revolution? Really? However, a prequel would work when the Solas arc is finished--hundreds or thousands of years back.
I might be done with Bioware if they don't let my Lavellan resolve the situation with Solas. If they had no intention of having the Inquisitor as at least a part-time protagonist in DA4 then they should have had Solas COMPLETELY cut off his relationship with friendly or romanced Inquisitors and go full on evil death lord. A new protagonist wouldn't likely have reason to see Solas as morally grey from their own knowledge/experience. As players we would have knowledge of Solas that the new player character would not. That is utterly horrible for role-playing. If I play a new character I don't want to feel stuck trying to engineer a happy ending for my Inquisitor.
A lot of wrong assumptions in your post. Who told you that DA FANTASY realm is heading to the same future as the real world. Industrial revolution? Really? Thedas has thousands of years of history and beside some similarities with the Earth medieval era, is pretty different in any other aspect and it seems has stayed like that for eons.
Since when Bioware had to close story arcs in order to bring a full set of new characters (including new protagonist)? Why a new protagonist wouldn't likely have reasons to see Baldy as morally gray just because he/she weren't friends or lovers? That issue would be solved in many different ways, like, for example, having this time a protagonist that really knows DA's lore and doesn't need Morrigan right beside to explain the most basic chunks of it. It could also be an elf (hopefully one with shoulders and without crippled arms), that would feel sympathetic towards Eggy.
If you find, as a player, utterly horrible that a protagonist knows less than you (the player), regarding a specific character, then why it wasn't a biiiiig issue the Inquisitor knew literally nothing about Coryfushy when the ugly bastard was already a big thing in DA2 and even Hawke's father was the one who reinforced his prison.
Judging by your above post, it seems the first DA game you have played was DAI.
A clean slate. I mean regardless of how big a role Solas plays in this game the main character has to deal with everything else that's going on. It's going to be much harder to have the Inquisitor deal with Qunari he or she was previously in conflict with or elves that already know that you;re trying to stop the return of their immortality. I think my point is that our Inquisitor's have put forth very serious opinions.
On a light-hearted note: Well, thankfully there aren't cameras in Thedas, so folks up in Tevinter likely won't know exactly what the Inquisitor looks like. 
Or maybe a disguise? They could reintroduce shapeshifting magic and you could hunt Qunari and Solas as a giant hairy spider.
My 2 cents...
I would not want HoF or Hawke back as only protagonists. Because in a way as many others have said, their stories are sort of over, and it would be boring to play with them only. (read further down)
As for the inquisitor, I don't feel like it's over (at least for a Lavellan who has Romanced Solas, but even a Trevelyan who is happily married to Cullen, they are still looking for ways to find and redeem their love/friend). I would not feel like a new character, who has never even talked or shared any adventure or knowledge or dialogue with Solas, would be a good fit to match him or do whatever it is that will happen (redeem him/kill him etc). I feel as a new protagonist would not have the same chemistry (whether they were lovers, friends or hated each other) with Solas as the inquisitor does. "Who is this guy? Ah, a bad guy, ok I'm gonna kill him" (cause a new protagonist won't really know Solas at all and most importantly wouldn't have had a chance to create his own opinion about him to decide whether he/she likes him or not.)
- This being said, it would be my dream if Bioware could make a HUGE A** game for next one, where you can pick either of the three heroes, and follow each of their paths, and have all stories meet at some point.
As in.. You first play with the HoF looking for a cure to the Taint.. complete that part of the story. Then it switches over to Hawke and it follows him in his journey to Weisshaupt (but this might be tricky because some people sacrificed Hawke..). Then you move over to the Inquisitor and see what his/her life has been while hunting for the Dread Wolf.
And basically this way you answer a lot of questions from the community regarding what the heroes have been up to.
There could even be a new protagonist that then will join them on their missions based on the choices you make.
Heck, these could even be 3 DLCs to the main game for what I care. Or even release HoF and Hawke as "pre-content" to the main game so then you can have a new protagonist and all, but you know what has been going on atleast, and add the Inquisitor part through the main game maybe if there is Solas content.
Cause just putting a new protagonist with no ties to anything feels a bit off.
HoF, Hawke and Quizzy were all "normal people" who then became important for Thedas. Who is the next one gonna be, another nobody who magically raises to fame and becomes involved in the story? 
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